Fix The North West Airfield (Nwaf) [Civilianize]

[alaskafish (DayZ) 26]

Honestly, it looks like the same old airstrip from the mod. A run down Russian military base is what it is. I'd rather see it more civilian based, but with a few military buildings here and there. Like just add some civilian buildings and keep the military loot sights. My reasoning for this is that when someone says "Let's go to NWAF" that simply means, lets get some guns and stuff. And personally, NWAF shouldn't be a military airfield, it should be an airport. I know loads of you will think that it will make it a bigger hotspot. And yes, it would, that's kind of the point. We need the 'big daddy' of hotspots. This place. We want people to think not twice, but 5 times before they go to it. 

Here's what I'd like to see with the new NWAF:

 

• Firstly, I'd like to see a terminal building. Something not big like JFK or Heathrow, but something small. Maybe a big bigger than the image I have provided. Something with some ticketing booths, metal detectors and security, and then the waiting area with some Duty Free shops and stuff. Then you can have two boarders... you know those things with the walkways that connect to a plane? Maybe you could have one attached to a plane you can actually go inside and loot. Or maybe there could be no boarders, so you have to do it the old fashioned way; go outside and board it through a ladder outside. 

 

• I'd also love to see a new and improved ATC tower. The one we have now is this run of the mill, military one, that looks like it belongs at an airfield. Not an airport. Something with a lot more floors, taller. Maybe there could be military and supplies there.

• Lastly, I'd like to see some random things, like a parking lot full of cars to loot. Like those parking lots you can park your car in when you travel? Or maybe hotel like the one in cherno minus the crashed plane. I'd also like to see a crashed in the field south of the NWAF. As if it was coming in for a landing but crashed. It may symbolize, "hey, your close to NWAF, get ready. I'd like to see some garages for those aircraft maintenance vehicles. Maybe when vehicles are added, we can start driving around cherno with our ladder truck or what not. 

 

EDIT: 

I think Balota isn't big enough to support the planes such as the one that crashed into the hotel in cherno. That's the whole reason this thread is up. I wondered why a giant propeller plane crashed into the Cherno Hotel. First, I thought it was landing at balota, or taking off, but balota is much too small for planes like that. There's no taxi space, and I can't picture two of those planes at Balota in one sitting. 

 

And it makes sense that the International airport is far from the city. The drive from JFK to New York City is about 15 minutes. Just now, I timed the drive (in ArmA II) from the south most part of NWAF to cherno at 60 mph and got 17 minutes and 56 seconds. 

 

Balota is about a 1 to 2 minute drive, if not less. 

 

Again, I'm not saying change NWAF to civilian, I mean make it civilian and military. 

 

JFK (sorry for the over used example) is for civilian planes, that's what we see. But the military uses it as a runway for large military aircraft, like the hangers where we civilians can't go. So half of the airport can be for civilians, whereas the other can be for military. 

 

And hopfully, we can call the North West Airfield more of an Airport.  (NWAA anyone? )

 

Don't hate, just an idea.

Edited January 30, 2014 by alaskafish

[ratiasu@hotmail.co.jp 122]

I'd like to see this for Balota instead. NWAF is... NW. Balota is right at the coast.

Good gear mostly inland, civilian/few military stuff at the coast. Doesn't really seem very touristic though, Chernarus that is. Doubt they'd invest in anything more elaborate than a small national airfield.

Edited January 30, 2014 by Ratiasu

[AlexLM 31]

I'd like to see this for Balota instead. NWAF is... NW. Balota is right at the coast.

Good gear mostly inland, civilian/few military stuff at the coast. Doesn't really seem very touristic though, Chernarus that is. Doubt they'd invest in anything more elaborate than a small national airfield.

From what I understand Chernarus has around 3 million people and is an ex Soviet republic. If we take the closest example to that - Moldova (3 million people, ex soviet republic, and even has a breakaway republic in the east just like Arma2) and use Chișinău airport as a reference there's still plenty of scope to expand the NWAF (i'd imagine a bit smaller ofc, a) for gameplay purposes and b) because NWAF isn't a capital city airfield).

 

https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=chisinau+airport&ie=UTF-8&ei=VU_qUsT-PIep0AWd34DQBg&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ

[punkvegita 44]

Yea it seems like they got really lazy with building designs, it's just a port from arma 2.

[ratiasu@hotmail.co.jp 122]

From what I understand Chernarus has around 3 million people and is an ex Soviet republic. If we take the closest example to that - Moldova (3 million people, ex soviet republic, and even has a breakaway republic in the east just like Arma2) and use Chișinău airport as a reference there's still plenty of scope to expand the NWAF (i'd imagine a bit smaller ofc, a) for gameplay purposes and B) because NWAF isn't a capital city airfield).

 

https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=chisinau+airport&ie=UTF-8&ei=VU_qUsT-PIep0AWd34DQBg&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ

Not saying I dont want mroe unique airfields, but from all airfields in teh game, NWAF shouldnt be the one to be turned civy.

[Whyherro123 2283]

Realistically, based on it's proximity to Chernogorsk, the Balota airfield should be the large civilian airport, while the NWAF could be instead a true military base. Why would there be an International Airport literally miles away from any real population center? Infrastructure of such size needs a sizable staff, and no-one would really enjoy driving to their jobs 3 hours each way.

Near where I live (Boston/Providence metropolitan corridor), both Logan and TF Green Airports are within 30 minutes of each capital city. Hell, even my home city of New Bedford has an airport, a civilian one (roughly Balota in size), and it is within the city limits!

[Private Evans 1303]

+1   I think 2 of 3 air fiieds should be more or even completely civillian ..NW could be both since it is very large :-)

[alaskafish (DayZ) 26]

I think Balota isn't big enough to support the planes such as the one that crashed into the hotel in cherno. That's the whole reason this thread is up. I wondered why a giant propeller plane crashed into the Cherno Hotel. First, I thought it was landing at balota, or taking off, but balota is much too small for planes like that. There's no taxi space, and I can't picture two of those planes at Balota in one sitting. 

 

And it makes sense that the International airport is far from the city. The drive from JFK to New York City is about 15 minutes. Just now, I timed the drive (in ArmA II) from the south most part of NWAF to cherno at 60 mph and got 17 minutes and 56 seconds. 

 

Balota is about a 1 to 2 minute drive, if not less. 

 

Again, I'm not saying change NWAF to civilian, I mean make it civilian and military. 

 

JFK (sorry for the over used example) is for civilian planes, that's what we see. But the military uses it as a runway for large military aircraft, like the hangers where we civilians can't go. So half of the airport can be for civilians, whereas the other can be for military. 

Edited January 30, 2014 by alaskafish

[AlexLM 31]

I think Balota isn't big enough to support the planes such as the one that crashed into the hotel in cherno. That's the whole reason this thread is up. I wondered why a giant propeller plane crashed into the Cherno Hotel. First, I thought it was landing at balota, or taking off, but balota is much too small for planes like that. There's no taxi space, and I can't picture two of those planes at Balota in one sitting. 

 

And it makes sense that the International airport is far from the city. The drive from JFK to New York City is about 15 minutes. Just now, I timed the drive (in ArmA II) from the south most part of NWAF to cherno at 60 mph and got 17 minutes and 56 seconds. 

 

Balota is about a 1 to 2 minute drive, if not less. 

 

Again, I'm not saying change NWAF to civilian, I mean make it civilian and military. 

 

JFK (sorry for the over used example) is for civilian planes, that's what we see. But the military uses it as a runway for large military aircraft, like the hangers where we civilians can't go. So half of the airport can be for civilians, whereas the other can be for military. 

A dual use airport would be good imo. I've stopped off at Yaoundé airport in Cameroon, which is dual use. The distant edge is covered in olive hangers just like the ARMA kind.

[victusmortuus 1074]

I've been slightly and quietly disappointed with some of the designs for the Airfields. Balota/NWAF/NEAF are worse versions of what I made myself on Arma 2 using the creator. At least I put some effort and story into mine. I love the SA and development team but I think they dropped the ball with this.

Edited January 30, 2014 by Victus Mortuus

[hells high 676]

A run down Russian military base is what it is.

 

You said it yourself. I'd like to see maybe a civilian Airport somewhere else (considering the crashed commercial plane in Cherno and all) but I the military bases should stay as military bases.

[stolenbanjos 110]

Realistically, based on it's proximity to Chernogorsk, the Balota airfield should be the large civilian airport, while the NWAF could be instead a true military base. Why would there be an International Airport literally miles away from any real population center? Infrastructure of such size needs a sizable staff, and no-one would really enjoy driving to their jobs 3 hours each way.

Near where I live (Boston/Providence metropolitan corridor), both Logan and TF Green Airports are within 30 minutes of each capital city. Hell, even my home city of New Bedford has an airport, a civilian one (roughly Balota in size), and it is within the city limits!

This, any commercial airport would be close to a big city, not in the NW.

[s1rGr1nG0 81]

I agree! You would imagine that when the outbreak/infection first started people were making a mad fucking dash to get away as quick as possible. I would think the airport, (hell, ALL the major roadways and train stations), would be packed with cars. Seems only logical that cars would be a good source for loot as once people started hitting massive traffic jams they would then have to go on foot with only the stuff they could carry.

[real meatshield 424]

Guys need to realize there was only one artist and an assistant making this at the beginning. Give them some time, now that they have more personnel working on the project.

 

Cool idea though.

[eleventhavenue 204]

Wouldn't any large (or semi-large) international airport be located around Novigrad? I don't see why there would be an international airport this far into the north.

Also, just a note, Chernarus is 100 kilometers across...

[musketeer 33]

I would like to see a more civilian focus on DayZ, and an airport would be a nice addition. In my opinion, NEAF should be expanded slightly to be the main military airport, and NWAF should be the civilian one. That way you have both, but both are different.

[uk aidan uk 10]

Considering the SA has only been out for like 5 minutes and there's already a new city and loads of new areas to find loot, not to mention the fact every building is open for exploration, i think they've done a pretty spectacular job so far.

 

Would be interesting to see a passenger airport, not just military, would be great for loot spawns, not to mention banditry.

[fortyeight 24]

Generally speaking, large international airports are usually located away from dense population centers. Minus a few examples (I'm thinking of San Diego airport but there are more). The reason for this, is they DRASTICALLY lower housing values because of the loud of jet engines constantly going by. Take SEATAC International. It was built to be between Seattle and Tacoma, but the urban sprawl has popped up around it, leading to almost a ghetto near the airport. If you want to find hookers to low-life people, it's near the airport.

 

The map we play on is roughly 15.17 km x 15.17 km (If they 230 sq.Km figure is correct). NWAF is 10km from elektro, as the crow flies, Using the posted 40kph speed limit signs, it would take ~15 minutes to DRIVE from elektro to NWAF. Pretty reasonable driving distance considering it takes me a 45 minutes to get to SEATAC.

 

Honestly, I really like this idea of spicing NWAF up. Currently it just seems like a big field with tarmac and some hangers. It looks a lot like a giant blank slate begging for some decor.

 

It is true the Balota and NEAF are far to small for international traffic. I'm sure a Boeing 737 could land on the air strip, but it's really inefficient to only be able to land one plane, load and take off.at a time. 

 

Honest opinion though, the civilian ATC shouldn't contain weapons or military gear. At most it should contain food (employee break room), electronics (radios, flashlights, batteries) and melee weapons. I could see a pistol from security guards, although I have never been in a real ATC, so I don't even know if they keep TSA agent's in the ATC. I just don't see breaking into an international airport, running up the ATC and finding some military uniforms, an M4 and an LBV. NWAF was a shared international and military airfield, put 2 ATC's in it, one for civilian traffic and the other for military traffic.

[Capo 323]

not to NWAF, this idea is only acceptable when used on balota. 

[Audiofly 8]

maybe its a military region, they developed a string of DNA that went wild. maybe they were not thinking of civilian airports. would you use a major populace location as a bioscience lab? . if you were leader. . . or hide it away in the back of beyond? or in a military confined area? google "porton down" UK. right next door to porton is a main excercise area for uk army. no major international airports tho

[deus_drone 98]

I would like a Civilian Airfield also, don't mind which. So long as there is still loot (don't care what type as the entire western side of the Map is military heaven)

[Hetstaine 10852]

Hopefully they do some work to the airfields in the future, as it is they are really sparse. Car parks with plenty of vehicles, light planes and helis, fire and medical infrastructure. Balota needs to be just a small civilian airfield as does Krasno. NWAF is the obvious choice for the larger civvie/military field.