djporternz 644 Posted January 17, 2014 (edited) That is a good question. I only wish that "Bohemia Interactive" would host their own official public hive servers.* A similar system to Guild Wars 2. While the only server which grant admins control should be private hive servers... But then again, hackers would be rampant on public hive servers. Since there are no admins to actually address these type of players.Servers are expensive. As part of the contracts for being able to rent out servers to us, the providers had to commit to hosting a large number of public servers at their expense. I read somewhere is was in the region of 300 servers at launch of the Alpha per provider. That's why there were any servers at all at launch! I also seem to recall that they also had to provide an additional public server for every three they rented. If BI or the dev team were to host that many servers, there wouldn't be any money for anything else. And then there are the ongoing running costs going forward. Say goodbye to any development of DayZ. Edited January 17, 2014 by DJPorterNZ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sobieski12 835 Posted January 17, 2014 Servers are expensive. As part of the contracts for being able to rent out servers to us, the providers had to commit to hosting a large number of public servers at their expense. I read somewhere is was in the region of 300 servers at launch of the Alpha per provider. That's why there were any servers at all at launch! I also seem to recall that they also had to provide an additional public server for every three they rented. If BI or the dev team were to host that many servers, there wouldn't be any money for anything else. And then there are the ongoing running costs going forward. Say goodbye to any development of DayZ. 20+ million dollars is not enough to host 100+ servers.* Hard to believe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sooden 301 Posted January 17, 2014 (edited) I don't think the backpacks should have been changed. i do, when i modded old dayz, backpacks where rare.... so when you got the most basic one, you where chuffed! Added: making backpacks a rare gift, not a given Edited January 17, 2014 by Sooden Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
taks 1 Posted January 17, 2014 everyone who claims backpacks and m4's dont spawn that much shold maybe consider that loot does not respawn yet without server restart and maybe stop looking in electro / balota .... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ratiasu@hotmail.co.jp 122 Posted January 17, 2014 i do, when i modded old dayz, backpacks where rare.... so when you got the most basic one, you where chuffed! Added: making backpacks a rare gift, not a givenI think the mountain backpacks are way too common. The small bagpacks are ok, though, but they should spawn in houses and stores at a lowered chance to compensate for the raised amount of spawns. I mean, every kid has at least one bagpack, right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sooden 301 Posted January 17, 2014 (edited) I think the mountain backpacks are way too common. The small bagpacks are ok, though, but they should spawn in houses and stores at a lowered chance to compensate for the raised amount of spawns. I mean, every kid has at least one bagpack, right?i had fun when doing a run without a backpack (for a test), still had a pistol and ammo, and lots of food (no m4 or mosin by choice). Could have gone to the woods and chilled for a day before needing a refill. But not having a backpack means you need to think about what you take. Added: and didn't die on this run (but got bored), just gave away my stuff and when on a fresh loot run :P Edited January 17, 2014 by Sooden Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sapper Joe 12 Posted January 17, 2014 I bought the SA earlier this week, and have been a part of the forums for a few days, so I'm quite the green horn here Having items spawn less frequently wont help. They'll just keep hopping until they find what they are wanting. That doesnt fix anything. I feel that some items should spawn less. However... On top of that, I also feel that the more useful/rarer items should have a hoard of zombies on them. So to get that M4A1, you have to fight your way through a dozen zombies to get it. That's just my two cents on the subject. Take it as you will. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lady Kyrah 1110 Posted January 17, 2014 What's the point of lowering loot spawn. It only encourages server hopping.Maybe they want players to test something else than M4s and revolvers? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sooden 301 Posted January 17, 2014 ..also lowering spawns will have and average affect (if it goes to main servers), even with hoppers... hoppers may hop more, and end up killing each other :P Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Metalunatic 25 Posted January 17, 2014 I had hoped they would fix or at least restrict server hopping before lowering spawn percentages. Don't really see the point in this right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lady Kyrah 1110 Posted January 17, 2014 20+ million dollars is not enough to host 100+ servers.* Hard to believe.True, and games are made with fairy dust. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fitzee 248 Posted January 17, 2014 I had hoped they would fix or at least restrict server hopping before lowering spawn percentages. Don't really see the point in this right now. There is another new gun coming in, so chances are there will be more weapons overall on server restart than there was before. Regards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sooden 301 Posted January 17, 2014 (edited) if it was me, along the alpha path, I would be testing out all sorts of loot rates, get info while working on things in the background. So when they do something that seems stupid, it may just be a boundary test. don't think they are just gonna set things to 'what seems correct' and lets play. Gotta push and test things, code, server and concepts Edited January 17, 2014 by Sooden Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadowjack 254 Posted January 17, 2014 Loot should be rare. Ammo should be extremely rare. None of this "i have 80 rounds for my Mosin balony" It should take weeks if not months to scrounge that much ammo. Functional mags should be even more rare. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Agent00Soul 4 Posted January 18, 2014 There were way too many m4's (mosins too) in the game, its a good change. The magnum is just as deadly in its range and they have added speedloaders.. Plus shotguns, there will be much more variety in gunfights. This is good. We just need a grenade added so people dont turtle inside rooms now and its sweet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D3r1L 7 Posted January 19, 2014 Thats insane. Hammerpoint did that for one reason: because they are selling backpacks and ammunition in their 'store'. Weapons you could find laying everywhere, but they were disposible because ammunition was nearly non-exsistant. Not to mention backpacks which if you wanted either you would almost have to spend real money on to get. If you have to work to get your loot then so be it, everyone else does. Its a level playing field.Yeah they are selling stuff , but i never buyed from store and i have everything in my global inventory , ammo backpack everythng! U ever played Warz ? U dont know what are u talking about , i play with Warz and u dont have to buy anything u can find everything.If u are lazy or just stupid u can buy it for real money! But u are not forced. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frosti 2165 Posted January 19, 2014 Yeah they are selling stuff , but i never buyed from store and i have everything in my global inventory , ammo backpack everythng! U ever played Warz ? U dont know what are u talking about , i play with Warz and u dont have to buy anything u can find everything.If u are lazy or just stupid u can buy it for real money! But u are not forced. pay 2 win pls. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StayAlive (DayZ) 169 Posted January 19, 2014 Lowering loot is a brilliant idea. It is supposed to be realistic, not a fast run to the nearest military base and voila, all geared up;) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gandolaf 81 Posted January 19, 2014 The less stuff you find the better,but only when done right. Also Server-hopping defeats the whole purpose of it,so that needs to be removed. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gingatsu 68 Posted January 19, 2014 This is crazy!Now thea are acting like before the WARZ devs , now know as Infestation.But the Warz DEVs where adding updates more often.They also listened to the community.I think this is stupid idea , there is not so much backpack or m4a1 . We will see what we will have next month.I totally disagree... First of all, war z (infestation stories now) developers never listened to the community. They were listening to those who said " I am someone who actively buys in game money and spends it so the fuckin game should be as I wish" and that was what they have done... the game turned into pay to win and the game went the shit down. Secondly, the backpacks are too many in the game. You can easily achieve a 30 slot hunting backpack, or the 35 slot backpack from places like Berezino, airstrip and airfields, the military bases and tents, and all those places around. Do you even know that a makeshift backpack will be implemented to the game (which can be made with rope and burlap)? do you know how much slots that backpack will have? much less than a Talon backpack of course but with all that easy to find backpacks (talon backpack for example) people wont even bother themselves to try to make some makeshift backpack at all... and M4... do you realize that this fuckin map is a Warsaw Pact region? that means Russian territory? M4 is not a Warsaw Pact issue weapon its more common to find in the NATO forces... the Game developers didn't explain at all, what the hell the NATO forces were doing in such area at all!!!! A weapon which should be ultra rare is like shit in every bodies hands right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bruce of Wayne 81 Posted January 19, 2014 Loot should be rare. Ammo should be extremely rare. None of this "i have 80 rounds for my Mosin balony" It should take weeks if not months to scrounge that much ammo. Functional mags should be even more rare.It would really make sense if you could find about that much ammo near where you found the gun. A person was in possession of a gun, but not one bit of ammo for it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chucknorris405 83 Posted January 19, 2014 I love that they are lowering loot spawns. I kinda like the feeling of coming into towns and not being guaranteed loot. I like having to make hard decisions about what do i really need to be carrying with my limited space or am i going to have to eat some rotten fruit? It almost like...........you are surviving. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fluxley 2228 Posted January 19, 2014 It would really make sense if you could find about that much ammo near where you found the gun. A person was in possession of a gun, but not one bit of ammo for it? I tend to think of it that the gun was left there because the previous user had run out of ammo. maybe they dumped it or maybe they died. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D3r1L 7 Posted January 19, 2014 pay 2 win pls. I totally disagree... First of all, war z (infestation stories now) developers never listened to the community. They were listening to those who said " I am someone who actively buys in game money and spends it so the fuckin game should be as I wish" and that was what they have done... the game turned into pay to win and the game went the shit down. Secondly, the backpacks are too many in the game. You can easily achieve a 30 slot hunting backpack, or the 35 slot backpack from places like Berezino, airstrip and airfields, the military bases and tents, and all those places around. Do you even know that a makeshift backpack will be implemented to the game (which can be made with rope and burlap)? do you know how much slots that backpack will have? much less than a Talon backpack of course but with all that easy to find backpacks (talon backpack for example) people wont even bother themselves to try to make some makeshift backpack at all... and M4... do you realize that this fuckin map is a Warsaw Pact region? that means Russian territory? M4 is not a Warsaw Pact issue weapon its more common to find in the NATO forces... the Game developers didn't explain at all, what the hell the NATO forces were doing in such area at all!!!! A weapon which should be ultra rare is like shit in every bodies hands right now.i dont think that it is pay 2 win . iam playing it i dont pay for ingame money , and i have everything i want .If u pay u dont have more HP then me who dont payed, u can not level up or something with real money!I care about M4 because there is no other powerfull weapon right now.Some russian weapons they should have ingame : AKS ,AV-102, K34 , AKM , AV98 ,SVD dragunovIf they will have more different weapons they should lower M4 spawn , but now it is just making the game boring! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites