liquidpeaches 0 Posted January 17, 2014 (edited) What do you guys think of the rararity of certain items like weapons?I think guns should be spawn much less frequent. Edited January 17, 2014 by liquidpeaches Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DirtyscumbagLith 270 Posted January 17, 2014 I think if you create a game where guns are near impossible to gather and the majority of people are running around with a potato for a weapon, lots of people are going to bail, jump ship and go play something else. i know i would. i have ZERO desire to hunt for a weapon for 22 hours. people complain about dying full geared now and its relatively easy to gear up. imagine the complaints if gearing up was incredibly difficult. Ehhh. No thanks. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
antonioajc 500 Posted January 17, 2014 Dude, did you even read the upcoming changes that are going to the test branch in three days? Magnum speedloader should be spawning nowNumber of backpacks spawning loweredNumber of .357 Pythons spawning lowered.Number of M4A1s spawning loweredhttp://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/165709-pending-changelog-experimental-branch-031114343/ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
liquidpeaches 0 Posted January 17, 2014 Oh I didn't read that. Thanks have my beans. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gibonez 3633 Posted January 17, 2014 I think there are far too few weapons and items in general to form an opinion yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Niner 27 Posted January 17, 2014 I dunno, I think if they change it to much, everyone is just going to go back to the mod. Firearms should be rare, but not so rare I have to search twenty two hours for a pistol with no fucking ammo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GpB311 236 Posted January 17, 2014 (edited) I didnt find an m4 or mosin for several hours when I first started, but I think that was as much me not knowing where to look as it is how much of it is actually out there. Now I just need time to run to certain locations and Im almost guaranteed to find some weapons...id like to see what weapons they add over time before deciding if theres too much too often. I do agree though that Id get bored if I had to spend 20 hours trying to find one working gun, regardless of how it would be if this were a real life scenario. Edited January 17, 2014 by GpB311 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fitzee 248 Posted January 17, 2014 Hi. While you want to get a weapon as fast as possible(for obvious reasons), making them harder to find is probably for the best. I mean what better way to make people think before blindly death matching everywhere they go. The way I see it, if Rockets vision of this game was a giant deathmatch you would spawn armed, like any other deathmatch game. Just my 2 cents. Regards. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mercules 1290 Posted January 17, 2014 I think if you create a game where guns are near impossible to gather and the majority of people are running around with a potato for a weapon, lots of people are going to bail, jump ship and go play something else. i know i would. i have ZERO desire to hunt for a weapon for 22 hours. people complain about dying full geared now and its relatively easy to gear up. imagine the complaints if gearing up was incredibly difficult. Ehhh. No thanks. So long, fair well.... The game actually gets better when the loot is less common. I think because it removes the people who can't handle the game. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Niner 27 Posted January 17, 2014 I didnt find an m4 or mosin for several hours when I first started, but I think that was as much me not knowing where to look as it is how much of it is actually out there. Now I just need time to run to certain locations and Im almost guaranteed to find some weapons...id like to see what weapons they add over time before decided if theres too much too often. I do agree though that Id get bored if I had to spend 20 hours trying to find one working gun, regardless of how it would be if this were a real life scenario.In a real life scenario, if I went and broke into all my neighbors houses during an apocalypse, I would fine a shotgun, a .38 special, or a hunting rifle, not in everyone's house, but at least a few. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ragingIMP 1 Posted January 17, 2014 Isn't the plan to make military weapons rarer with more civilian ones, so as the civilian ones are added you'll see more of them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spartanxapathy 203 Posted January 17, 2014 So long, fair well.... The game actually gets better when the loot is less common. I think because it removes the people who can't handle the game. Words from my mouth. Have beans. :beans: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Niner 27 Posted January 17, 2014 Isn't the plan to make military weapons rarer with more civilian ones, so as the civilian ones are added you'll see more of them The problem with civilian firearms is that what most people think of military firearms, are actual civilian firearms. AR-15's, .45 pistols, glocks, and now hunting rifles are used by military as well, like the M40. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GpB311 236 Posted January 17, 2014 In a real life scenario, if I went and broke into all my neighbors houses during an apocalypse, I would fine a shotgun, a .38 special, or a hunting rifle, not in everyone's house, but at least a few.Maybe...perhaps even probably, but different neighborhoods would have different results. Youd also not be the only one with that idea and theres no server restarts in real life to bring back the loot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mdogg2005 447 Posted January 17, 2014 (edited) Guns will be spawning less. Edited January 17, 2014 by Mdogg2005 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frosti 2165 Posted January 17, 2014 I already have to server hop 5-10 times to get m4a1. Weapons are too rare. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ragingIMP 1 Posted January 17, 2014 The problem with civilian firearms is that what most people think of military firearms, are actual civilian firearms. AR-15's, .45 pistols, glocks, and now hunting rifles are used by military as well, like the M40. I reserve judgement on that as I don't know much about guns outside FPSs which probably leaves me rather uninformed. The main thing I was getting at was that civilian weapon (whatever counts as that) will be the more common occurrence. Also it would have to be the type of weapon owned by civilians in a ex-soviet block country not the US, and while I don't have enough knowledge to comment on what that actually means they're bound to be different. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Revocane 38 Posted January 17, 2014 Think they're rare now? They're pretty damned common at the moment to help with testing. How can people test the weapons and find problems with them if they are difficult to find? Enjoy them while you can, they won't be around forever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damnyourdeadman 1045 Posted January 17, 2014 We don't have enough weapons implemented ingame yet guys.I don't think it's a good idea to lower the loot at the moment.But that's just my opinion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Niner 27 Posted January 17, 2014 I reserve judgement on that as I don't know much about guns outside FPSs which probably leaves me rather uninformed. The main thing I was getting at was that civilian weapon (whatever counts as that) will be the more common occurrence. Also it would have to be the type of weapon owned by civilians in a ex-soviet block country not the US, and while I don't have enough knowledge to comment on what that actually means they're bound to be different. Definitely would be different, I believe Soviet states had strict gun control, but civilians may have been able to carry firearms like small pistols, hunting rifles, and shotguns. An M40 could be used as a hunting rifle, not exactly sure how that would stand in Chernaus as it chambers a 7.62x51mm rounds. (Is that the same as the Mosin?) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frosti 2165 Posted January 17, 2014 Think they're rare now? They're pretty damned common at the moment to help with testing. How can people test the weapons and find problems with them if they are difficult to find? Enjoy them while you can, they won't be around forever. Upon server restart there is about ~15 of m4a1 on the server. Good luck getting one without server hopping. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ragingIMP 1 Posted January 17, 2014 Definitely would be different, I believe Soviet states had strict gun control, but civilians may have been able to carry firearms like small pistols, hunting rifles, and shotguns. An M40 could be used as a hunting rifle, not exactly sure how that would stand in Chernaus as it chambers a 7.62x51mm rounds. (Is that the same as the Mosin?) Wiki says mosin fires 7.62x54mmR rounds Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Revocane 38 Posted January 17, 2014 Upon server restart there is about ~15 of m4a1 on the server. Good luck getting one without server hopping. I've never had a problem finding them, and have went through dozens of them by now. TBH they seem to spawn more commonly at the top floor of schools than anywhere else in my experience. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fitzee 248 Posted January 17, 2014 Good luck getting one without server hopping. Hi. Why do so many people assume anyone with gear is server hopping? The last time I died was the night before they moved the player spawns to east coast. I was lucky and got the baloota spawn, 15 minutes later I had an axe, M4 with Magpul parts, pristine optics, 2 60 round clips, about 60 extra rounds, and at least 1/2 military clothing. Next day I went back in same server and got another 60 round clip, more ammo, a 357 with lots of ammo, and the rest of the military clothing, all pristine...Then I wandered across the map, by the time I got to the east side I had full map, pristine can opener, 2 or 3 canteens and the list goes on... Just don't understand why people think its so hard to gear without hopping... Of course I don't play on the 24/7 daytime servers, thats probably where the difference is, though it will change as the spawn system is improved. Regards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Immersive 121 Posted January 17, 2014 Lel, they need to spawn python ammo more. I don't give a shit bout the magnum and skip over it most of the time anyway cause ammo is 2 rare 4 me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites