What's worse? Being KoS'd or held up

[Mays (DayZ) 154]

Really curious now.

[Space Milk 195]

Curious cats get run over.

Watch out.

[Inception. 9443]

Death (being KoSed) results in the loss of all items whereas being held up does not necessarily mean death.

[Mays (DayZ) 154]

Death (being KoSed) results in the loss of all items whereas being held up does not necessarily mean death.

You'd think that's obvious but judging from my other topic you'd be surprised. A lot are against being held up and don't follow the "rules" and instead try to kill them.

[Inception. 9443]

You'd think that's obvious but judging from my other topic you'd be surprised. A lot are against being held up and don't follow the "rules" and instead try to kill them.

 

I was under the impression that being held up and its entities, in the context of your poll here, did not include death. 

[funky_mish 75]

KoS provides no chance to interact, it's an interruption to playing. A hold up is a tense encounter, athe sort of thing DayZ is made for.

[hells high 676]

Oh look another one. I've never heard of a single hold up experience that didn't go something like this (minus the savior) - http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/165282-to-my-guardian-angel-with-a-high-powered-rifle/

[Ubernaut 297]

I think being held up is probably worse, because extremely seldom is the person being held up not killed or severely poisoned, resulting in death. What's the difference? The difference is you wasted my time *and* got gear off me that hasn't been shot up.

 

This is hypothetically speaking. I actually haven't been held up before. I would never give someone the opportunity to get pristine loot from me if I could help it.

[twingunz 308]

it's purely situational i think a new spawn has no reason to be held up so they may as well kill you for a chance for your loot. where a geared player would rather be held up knowing the bandit / whatever can't take everything, if you play your cards right the person might just take your beans and ammo and leave your gun and everything else normally if you just be friendly and obliging.

[chris90 54]

KoS ofc,

 

if they try to held up you just combat log and lose nothing :D :D :D :D :D

Edited January 16, 2014 by chris90

[Tizzle 90]

As of right now, gear is way more important than the player's life. If you hold me up and take my gear, you may as well just kill me. So until lives are made more important, being held up is worse

[argotto 7]

This isn't really a fair poll.  What is worse?  Obviously dying is worse, but being borderline tortured slowly and insulted for 10 minutes isn't exactly a thrilling experience either.  By far the majority of encounters I've had ended up in me dying.. not being spared.

[fitzee 248]

Hi.

 

Worthless poll.

 

Don't see what makes having somebody steal your blood, then poison you, or just exterminating you gangland style any better than KOS'ing you. Of course you didn't mention that part in the poll options, and don't kid yourself, that is the type of thing that will happen the most.

 

But to each his own I guess.

 

Regards.

[Camisado2 83]

Kos is way worse, while hold ups have the potential to be exciting.

[Camisado2 83]

Kos is way worse, while hold ups have the potential to be exciting.

[Torv 2]

Being KoS'ed is worse, of course. It's better than looking at a blank screen saying "You are dead" and half the time not know what the hell happened.
Interaction>KoS'ed

[argotto 7]

This poll can't be taken seriously.  He just got done making a thread asking why people refuse being held up.. so how is this poll going to prove his points right or wrong?  The answer here is obvious, but it isn't what his point is and has absolutely nothing to do with it :\

[karbiner 29]

Being held up can make some laughs :)

[pteryx 14]

Where's the option for never getting held up because when idiotboys run around yelling on direct chat they get shot?

[shadowjack 254]

I have a real conflict here. A natural do whatever it takes to survive instinct but a strong distaste for being restricted. I really don't see KOS as an issue as I feel most times it has happened to me it was more what I didn't do rather than what the other guy did do.  I doubt I would ever willingly allow myself to be cuffed but waking up to that situation could make for some interesting interactions.

[somethingbloody 118]

I've held up three people so far.

The first, we spotted him going into the Berezino supermarket. My armed mate covered the back with his M4 and I went around the front with my 357. He came out the front and I ordered him to stop and instructed him how to surrender. I took his can-opener and epinephrine and we decided what to do with him.

We came to two options we could offer him. One, he turns and runs back south, or two, he fistfights a zombie, we bandage him up, and he can come with us. He chose the latter, and I just kept my weapon ready and watched him while he looted. By the time we were less suspicious and looting Rify, he had several chances to kill one of us in isolation, but he didn't. We took him to the North-east airfield, stopping for a sit at the lake, and waved him off as he set off on his own. We knew that if we killed him for no reason we would be creating a bandit that would never trust anyone again.



The second we spotted at the North-east strip. My mate was looting the hangars with me on overwatch with a scoped mosin. I spotted a guy in a bright orange rain-coat, and he was told to surrender while I moved down. We cuffed him and checked his gear. He had a lot of food and ammo, but no firearms. We kept an eye out from the ATC while he looted, then he set off for the Olsha radiotower. We decided to test our tracking skills, and found a few open doors in Olsha proper but no sign of him. We then headed to Guba, where we found him again. He was so excited to see us, we decided to give him a 357, and he gave us a pile of fresh fruit and canned food as thanks and headed off.

The third was during the same session. I was watching Rify from the hill as my buddy checked the ship. I saw a guy with matching bright red motorcycle helmet and backpack entering the ship, so my mate waited on the deck and held him up. The guy asked if we were "The heroes", and told us he had met a guy who told him about two geared players who looked out for him and gave him a gun. As they talked, I noticed another survivor in a bright-orange jacket heading in. It was the first player, and they hung out on the ship and I emerged from my hiding spot to give them a wave.

Images under the cut

I'm not saying this is what will happen every time you get held up. But it isn't always about getting your pristine gear and force feeding you inedibles. We do it respectfully and cautiously. If you return that respect and don't threaten us we are likely to help you out with a bit of gear, some directions if you're lost, or even some protection.

It is a gamble on both sides, but can make for some of the most exciting interaction DayZ can offer.

[Gerandar 212]

"Put your hands up"

 

"okay, dont kill...*logs out*"

 

why anyone would allow someone to hold them up right now is beyond me.

[Maia (DayZ) 93]

"Put your hands up"

 

"okay, dont kill...*logs out*"

 

why anyone would allow someone to hold them up right now is beyond me.

This plays a big part in the game right now. Nobody sticks around to be held up these days. If you do, you're either bored, don't know game mechanics, or have backup on the way/some alternative plan. Thus I'd rather be held up, if I see you have a big group of people or try to handcuff me or do anything fishy, I'll probably log out to save myself the time. If you have a small group and seem legit, I'll let you have my crappy items (I never gear up anymore) or I'll call for backup to have you killed in your false sense of security if friends are online/nearby.

[tsandrey 379]

Held up. They can kill me and damage my items, but I will never become one of their toys to play with!

[zhrike 264]

KoS, in my opinion, usually derives from cowardice and/or lack of imagination. Holding people up displays more confidence on the part of the perpetrators, and in many cases is very imaginative. That said, no way I'd ever consent to being held up. You hold me up, one of us (or more) is/are dying, and I'm fine with that. Rules? There are no fucking rules.
 
 
This is an example of a fun holdup with an unexpected outcome:

 

Edited January 16, 2014 by Fukkit