I wish the arrow will be implemented as soon as possible

[crazyandlazy 376]

I remember playing Last of Us multiplayer and killing people with the bow. It feels so good.

[Ineedscoffee 464]

Technically, despite what popular media shows, killing someone with arrows takes forever. Especially if your doing so with crafted wooden arrows. The problem is they don't splinter off on impact to cause enough instant trauma. Unless it's a vital organ shot, your preys gonna be running away. You'll run out of arrows before you down them.

The only scene I can think of in the last ten years to come close to an actual bow kill, is (Spoilers) Boromir in lord of the rings. Even at that, it would of taken a few more to put a man of that size down.

When a bullet enters the tissue of your body, it fragments, causing immediate surrounding damage. An arrow, while it does cause trauma, actually can push organs aside, causing the surrounding tissue to be relatively unharmed. There's a reason bow hunters in Alaska bring a backup firearm.

You would be better served with a quarter staff carved into a spear, and getting someone in the chest from throwing distance (I'm a leaf on the wind.....) or by ambushing them from....a bush.....and skewering the target from behind, just under the shoulder blade.

Now if you have hunting tips on fiberglass shafts, were talking consistent quick kills.

[zaphodity (DayZ) 41]

Sorry, couldn't resist.

 

 

[Byzan 20]

well an arrow wont kill as fast as a bullet it will still do fine damage and compassionate a target.

 

and if you get them in the knee its sure to force early retirement.

[UbuntuFoo 40]

OP got me excited... first reply really took the wind out of my sails. But I appreciate the realism aspect and the solid contribution, Ineedscoffee.

 

Is it far fetched to include fiberglass arrows in the loot tables? Perhaps poisons can be created somehow at some point to be applied to piercing weapons and projectiles.

[Ineedscoffee 464]

well an arrow wont kill as fast as a bullet it will still do fine damage and compassionate a target.

 

and if you get them in the knee its sure to force early retirement.

Lol I don't think shooting someone with an arrow will squeeze compassion out of them :p

Also, in regards to the whole Arrow in the knee thing, that was actually ancient nord slang for getting married. Which when you play Skyrim with that in mind,makes a helluva lot more sense then a guard force composed of cripples.

[BelMarduk 169]

ummm, a broad head arrow from a 65lb draw bow will put a man down very quickly (without any medical attention) as fast if not faster than a 9mm hollowpoint round (hollow point rounds are the only rounds designed to cause massive trauma) at the same impact point.  Arrows will go places a bullet will never reach. an arrow will go through a sand bag, travel way farther through water (retaining 'deadly' force), etc. Movies are not the place to get anecdotal data on topics such as this.

as a bow hunter and rifle hunter, there is far more 'trauma' damage from my bow than from my gun. hell google 'broad head damage' images and you will see what I am talking about.

[Ineedscoffee 464]

OP got me excited... first reply really took the wind out of my sails. But I appreciate the realism aspect and the solid contribution, Ineedscoffee.

 

Is it far fetched to include fiberglass arrows in the loot tables? Perhaps poisons can be created somehow at some point to be applied to piercing weapons and projectiles.

Don't get me wrong, fiberglass arrows and compound bows are a huge possibility. Most northern civilizations, such as Alaska, Canada, Russia, etc. still practice bow hunting. It provides a greater challenge for the hunter, as well as minimizes damage to the meat. Growing up in Alaska, I learned how to properly pull back a sixty pound draw on a hunting bow before I was allowed to use a rifle. Now I'm not familiar with daily living in Cherno, I could see them being widely used depending on the wildlife.

[Ineedscoffee 464]

ummm, a broad head arrow from a 65lb draw bow will put a man down very quickly (without any medical attention) as fast if not faster than a 9mm hollowpoint round (hollow point rounds are the only rounds designed to cause massive trauma) at the same impact point. Arrows will go places a bullet will never reach. an arrow will go through a sand bag, travel way farther through water (retaining 'deadly' force), etc. Movies are not the place to get anecdotal data on topics such as this.

as a bow hunter and rifle hunter, there is far more 'trauma' damage from my bow than from my gun. hell google 'broad head damage' images and you will see what I am talking about.

Those would fall in line with hunting tips sir. Yes, they will do proper damage. There's no denying that. Now when the Op stated he couldn't wait for arrows, I went with the standard half inch round sport tips in mind, which are far more common then your screw on killers.

Your average bow owner wouldn't have such tips on hand, making them a rarity in this setting.

Edited January 13, 2014 by Ineedscoffee

[Zollicoffer 200]

I could be wrong, but I don't think there will be arrows. Only bolts.

[gibonez 3633]

Yea any modern 60 + pound compound bow with any sort of hunting tip would absolutely destroy a human being.

 

Far quicker than any pistol round outside of heavy magnums.

[BelMarduk 169]

Those would fall in line with hunting tips sir. Yes, they will do proper damage. There's no denying that. Now when the Op stated he couldn't wait for arrows, I went with the standard half inch round sport tips in mind, which are far more common then your screw on killers.

Your average bow owner wouldn't have such tips on hand, making them a rarity in this setting.

wrong. If someone owns a bow (and hunts, this only applies to someone that hunts with a bow... the vast majority of bow owners) I guarantee they are going to have a pile of broad heads. No one (modern times, modern equipment) is going to hunt with blunts or practice tips (because they don't impart massive immediate trauma). If you have been around bow hunters, but don't hunt yourself, then no, you probably have had little to no exp with broad heads, as no one would go out and practice with them (obvious reasons, Ill explain if you don't immediately get the why). Any bow hunter is going to have at least an equal amount of arrows with broadheads as he does with blunts/practice tips. When I go out practicing, I keep my quiver full (mounts on bow), so I am practicing with the same weight/setup as I will be out in the tree and the quiver is full of broadheads.

 

EDIT: clarification. I (an average bow hunter/owner of a bow I think) always have 36 arrows on hand. 12 have Steel Venom 100gr broad heads. 24 100gr practice heads... I don't think I have ever brought my broad head arrows out for anything other than showing them off, or heading into the woods to hunt...

Edited January 14, 2014 by BelMarduk

[Ineedscoffee 464]

I think this is more along what the general populace has in mind........

http://i.imgur.com/vXMBF.gif

[Ineedscoffee 464]

wrong. If someone owns a bow (and hunts, this only applies to someone that hunts with a bow... the vast majority of bow owners) I guarantee they are going to have a pile of broad heads. No one (modern times, modern equipment) is going to hunt with blunts or practice tips (because they don't impart massive immediate trauma). If you have been around bow hunters, but don't hunt yourself, then no, you probably have had little to no exp with broad heads, as no one would go out and practice with them (obvious reasons, Ill explain if you don't immediately get the why). Any bow hunter is going to have at least an equal amount of arrows with broadheads as he does with blunts/practice tips. When I go out practicing, I keep my quiver full (mounts on bow), so I am practicing with the same weight/setup as I will be out in the tree and the quiver is full of broadheads.

Beans for the correction :)

[Firstbornchicken 34]

Also, in regards to the whole Arrow in the knee thing, that was actually ancient nord slang for getting married. Which when you play Skyrim with that in mind,makes a helluva lot more sense then a guard force composed of cripples.

 

Nope.

 

There is no evidence what so ever of that expression existing. 

[Hama 60]

I could be wrong, but I don't think there will be arrows. Only bolts.

 Modern crossbows fire arrows, not bolts.

[Ineedscoffee 464]

Nope.

There is no evidence what so ever of that expression existing.

http://sfwflot.tumblr.com/post/49846339760/arrow-to-the-knee-as-old-norse-slang-a-tribute-to

Seems to mostly have roots in folklore I'm guessing.

To me it makes far more sense the over half the population of guards across all realms being injured by such crippling marksmanship.

Edited January 14, 2014 by Ineedscoffee

[Firstbornchicken 34]

http://sfwflot.tumblr.com/post/49846339760/arrow-to-the-knee-as-old-norse-slang-a-tribute-to

Seems to mostly have roots in folklore I'm guessing.

 

So long as we agree the phrase originated from Skyrim. 

 

 

 

To me it makes far more sense the over half the population of guards across all realms being injured by such crippling marksmanship.

 

Which i think, is a cool way to interpret the game :) Roleplaying games do rely on us to fill in some blanks, and in this case, as you said, it referring to marriage makes so much sense.

Edited January 14, 2014 by Firstbornchicken

[crazyandlazy 376]

It's good to see people who have handeled bows and arrows partaking in this discussion :] . Really good to read.

 

Btw, has anyone played Last of Us multiplayer and beasted with the bow? The concept of sneaking a quick bow kill and running away is very satisfying. Plus, there's no noise as compared to bullets.

[Ineedscoffee 464]

I haven't handled them to the extent Mar has, I prefered my aut six.

[ninjacalypse 551]

Technically, despite what popular media shows, killing someone with arrows takes forever. Especially if your doing so with crafted wooden arrows. The problem is they don't splinter off on impact to cause enough instant trauma. Unless it's a vital organ shot, your preys gonna be running away. You'll run out of arrows before you down them.

Exactly, these would be makeshift bow and arrows not Hollywood movie stuff.

[Diggydug (DayZ) 331]

I'd like this but they'd be such a pain to use from what little I know. In terms of getting an accuracy shot since it is a bow and arrow and will no doubt need to be arched unless you're really close. I'm not against it, as long as they're not like most games where no one else can hear the bow and you can't just knock and arrow, draw it back, and hold it for a minute lining up the shot.

 

Would be good for hunting quietly though to avoid attracting attention, assuming we can't just hatchet the deer to death.

 

 

Also, in terms of keeping the weaponry in line with logic, I don't see Chernarus having a lot of modern compound bows or whatever, but I could be wrong. If we could make bows and arrows that'd be nicer but obviously less lethal and require more precision.

Edited January 14, 2014 by Diggydug

[Ineedscoffee 464]

Bows are actually quite silent. Beside the twang of loosing an arrow, there really isn't much noise.

[Diggydug (DayZ) 331]

Bows are actually quite silent. Beside the twang of loosing an arrow, there really isn't much noise.

But in games, at least every game with a bow I've played, it's as if everyone else in the world is incapable of hearing the loosing of an arrow even if you're near them. It irritates me and I'd expect it to be very quiet, but not something you can just use to shoot one guy in a group from 10m away and no one know where it came from.

[Firstbornchicken 34]

But in games, at least every game with a bow I've played, it's as if everyone else in the world is incapable of hearing the loosing of an arrow even if you're near them. It irritates me and I'd expect it to be very quiet, but not something you can just use to shoot one guy in a group from 10m away and no one know where it came from.

 

On a slightly windy day, a bow strung 10m away can be hard to place.

on a very windy day, you could miss it entirely