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Removing saline and making ammo much more rare?

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I don't understand why we see countless "KoS - This, KoS - That" Threads, it will be in the game regardless of what anyone does, I mean really... you are in the post-apocalyptic world, you have very little supplies and you are starving, you see a man with a bag packed full of goodies with a gun, are you going to walk up with open arms and ask? No.  You are not.  And if you say you would, you deserve to be shot. You are going to some way some how try to disable or kill that man for the goods he posesses.

 

No I would not fire my gun, I would kill you by other means, there will always be KoS and nothing can be done about it.

I dont mind KOS all that much and it will always happen in a game like this im a little against people using that is what would happen in such an event in real life as a reason to do it in game be honnest with yourself and everyone else you like to KOS no shame in that if its your style by all means continue on but stating what would happen in a hypothetical apoc as fact is just crazy by nature humans rely on each other to achieve various things would there be a few crazed desperate killers yes but i think you will find the majority of survivors would actually seek human aid company and skills.

 

Kill and rob a man with a bag full of goodies will feed you for a while befriend a man with a bag full of goodies and he will show you how he got said goodies(hunting etc)you may say ill just rob and kill the next guy and the next to stay alive and what happens when no one else is left ?? honestly it just lame to use this type of excuse its a game and you like to play and pretend this type of person when im sure if you took a good hard look in the mirror you might actually see you dont have what it takes to be a ruthless killer ( heck probably dont have what it takes to survive long enough to get to this point.

 

I served 8 years in the military and the one thing i learnt was it aint always so easy to pull the trigger on a human (most guys use methods to de humanise those they will be shooting at ) then add in the fear when they shoot back alot of people crack under that  the thing i havee learnt from many more years of playing games it very easy to pull the trigger on a game avatar lol and its alot of fun......

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I think that we need to wait for further feature development such as numerous and inelegant zombies before tweaking game balance.

There are certain features to come that will have a large effect on player behavior and loot balance so trying to balance before then would be wasteful.

 

Once there are in balancing will be more relevant.

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That's literally what saline is for - it's to bulk up your blood volume until you can get a real transfusion.

 

IMO It should restore you to full blood and then gradually drop back down, although you should naturally recover blood during this time so it should level out to some extent.

Not really, Saline has many uses most common when administered through IV is provide hydration and some nutrients to people who can't ingest them orally for whatever reason. It is true that Saline is sometimes used to increase the blood pressure of a person who has suffered significant blood loss but it does not under any circumstance function the same way as blood does, Saline cannot be used by the circulatory system to provide oxygen and nutrients to the organs and cells.

The current application of Saline in DayZ is not realistic at all and renders the blood transfusion system pointless.

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Not really, Saline has many uses most common when administered through IV is provide hydration and some nutrients to people who can't ingest them orally for whatever reason. It is true that Saline is sometimes used to increase the blood pressure of a person who has suffered significant blood loss but it does not under any circumstance function the same way as blood does, Saline cannot be used by the circulatory system to provide oxygen and nutrients to the organs and cells.

The current application of Saline in DayZ is not realistic at all and renders the blood transfusion system pointless.

 

I didn't imply that it does function in the same way that blood does. As I said - it should help improve your condition temporarily until you are able to get a proper transfusion...

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It is used to increase the blood pressure of patients in a critical condition, its current application in DayZ implies that the 'blood meter' only refers to the characters blood pressure, which is quite nonsensical really.

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Well 1st off who uses a gun to kill zombies?  Secondly making Ammo more rare would just make me more likely to shoot someone in hopes they had some on there corpse.

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people will KOS with fists if there were no guns and bullets..don't you know??? i will world star your ass for your kiwi..

 

the trick is to add to the game so people actually have shit to do.. not take a way from the game.. 

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For authenticity if anything keep saline and remove direct player to player blood transfusion (or make it more hazardous).

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