MatthewsGauss 0 Posted January 5, 2014 So the first weapon I find in Dayz is the very popular Mosin Nagant and I notice something strange, it isn't the normal 91/30 that it says it is. It's not that it is wrong is what makes me confused, it's that it is a combination of different models. The Mosin has a hex receiver (made before WW2) and a bent bolt design (only meant for snipers) and to make things even more confusing it has the length of an m44 (made in 1944 and is shorter than a 91/30) but the bayonet is not permanently attached like an M44 but is but on sideways unstead of the bayonet lug covering the front sight like a 91/30. So how exactly do you combine 3 obviously different models of a mosin and combine them to make this frankenstein gun? Now i'm kinda expecting to be able to hacksaw the mosin and make it a obrez to make the gun even more confusing. I also hope that they make the 7.62x54r ammo not usable in the mosin and sks or that'll be pretty fucky.Examples of the modelsRegular 91/30 http://puu.sh/6aA3S.jpgm44 http://puu.sh/6aA5h.jpgsniper http://puu.sh/6aA6P.jpgobrez http://puu.sh/6aA9a.jpgAlso the difference between the Mosin round and the SKS round http://puu.sh/6aAex.jpg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
larrylongbottom 106 Posted January 5, 2014 so many versions ...-drool- Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-Gews- 7443 Posted January 5, 2014 It's a hex receiver, Tula armory, 1932. The bolt was initially straight, but the DayZ team bent it down once they realized this would interfere with the scopes. It is not a proper "sniper" bolt, as you can see, the bolt handle should be way longer than the one currently in-game. Here is what the modeler Harry had to say about it: "I modeled the bolt straightThey bent it internallyAnd they bent it wrong" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slyder73 94 Posted January 5, 2014 (edited) Agreed with the OP and hopefully the details will be corrected over time.I agree about the ammunition as well being a bit of a stickler for firearm accuracy; the Mosin with it's 7.62x54R rimmed cartidges cannot fire the SKS round, which is the 7.62x39 (not rimmed) and vice versa.I'm confident they will model that accurately. Edited January 5, 2014 by Slyder73 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DevilDog (DayZ) 455 Posted January 5, 2014 As for how they do that. Well they are game designers and coders, not firearms experts. They do what they can I guess. "I also hope that they make the 7.62x54r ammo not usable in the mosin" That confused me though. I am gonna assume you mistyped what you really meant to say. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slyder73 94 Posted January 5, 2014 (edited) No, I meant what I said. 7.62x54R is the round that the Mosin-Nagant shoots. The R stands for rimmed or often people say Russian.The 7.62x39 is the round that the SKS or AK variants use.*edit* Sorry, I think you were responding to a different post. Edited January 5, 2014 by Slyder73 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MatthewsGauss 0 Posted January 5, 2014 "I also hope that they make the 7.62x54r ammo not usable in the mosin" I mean that the mosin AND the sks not that the mosin doesnt shoot 7.62x54r Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dromagewok@hotmail.com 164 Posted January 5, 2014 So the first weapon I find in Dayz is the very popular Mosin Nagant and I notice something strange, it isn't the normal 91/30 that it says it is. It's not that it is wrong is what makes me confused, it's that it is a combination of different models. The Mosin has a hex receiver (made before WW2) and a bent bolt design (only meant for snipers) and to make things even more confusing it has the length of an m44 (made in 1944 and is shorter than a 91/30) but the bayonet is not permanently attached like an M44 but is but on sideways unstead of the bayonet lug covering the front sight like a 91/30. So how exactly do you combine 3 obviously different models of a mosin and combine them to make this frankenstein gun? Now i'm kinda expecting to be able to hacksaw the mosin and make it a obrez to make the gun even more confusing. I also hope that they make the 7.62x54r ammo not usable in the mosin and sks or that'll be pretty fucky.Examples of the modelsRegular 91/30 http://puu.sh/6aA3S.jpgm44 http://puu.sh/6aA5h.jpgsniper http://puu.sh/6aA6P.jpgobrez http://puu.sh/6aA9a.jpgAlso the difference between the Mosin round and the SKS round http://puu.sh/6aAex.jpg In-game it is listed as a 9130, the most common version of the Mosin Nagant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DevilDog (DayZ) 455 Posted January 5, 2014 "I also hope that they make the 7.62x54r ammo not usable in the mosin" I mean that the mosin AND the sks not that the mosin doesnt shoot 7.62x54r Figured that haha. Whew. I am hoping they have a whole bunch of different ammo types. The more the better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nihilum 209 Posted January 5, 2014 mhm. They need to correct the sks ammunition type, that should be simple.And add more 7.62 x54R weapons like the:VEPR 7.62 x54 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1aruqM7Py8PKMhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJx6TmvHxDw Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
