Why no zombie kids?

[James MacDonald 14]

Most games don't have children you can kill because it's in extremely poor taste. And censorship issues...

I kill kids in Crusader Kings II all the time, damn bastards keep trying to get my kingdom : |

However, you don't actually see any kids get killed there. It just.... tells you : )

[James MacDonald 14]

hell the opening scenes of the walking dead first season has rick nail a child with a toy in its hand( a zed child)  censors didnt stop that. it would be realistic to have children zeds and may even make it harder having to aim lower for a child zed head.

 

This whole poor taste thing doesnt seem to wash as what its ok to kill hundreds of adult zeds it is fine to act like a raving mad man killing any human you see its fine to cuff someone drain them of blood feed them rotten food chemicals and or break legs and leave to be eaten by zeds.

 

But oh no you cant hurt the children zeds that would be wrong LOL come on this is a game that simulates a zed apoc why no children.

I was thinking the same, they have zombie kids in The Walking Dead.

Maybe people just feel more strongly about it when you actually do the killing, apart from just watching it.

[Zeppa 562]

Because everything in todays world is only rainbows and unicorns. DONT YOU THINK ANYTHING! OR ELSE!

Edited December 30, 2013 by Zeppa

[frosti 2165]

Well right now you can take guns to building that clearly is a school and shoot out people there. Just sayin.

[the_annoying_fin 11]

Heres the question i raise to people saying shooting a child is morally and ethically wrong, how is killing a child more wrong than killing an adult taking human life is always terrible no matter who it is or there age ALL human life is important thus killing a child is no worse than killing an adult.

 

Well, assuming it's overall, not just zombies.

It might be the simple fact that kids are more defenceless than adults. And that goes for handicapped ADULTS also, it's considered just as bad as killing kids. 

Correct me if im wrong

[twingunz 308]

Well, assuming it's overall, not just zombies.

It might be the simple fact that kids are more defenceless than adults. And that goes for handicapped ADULTS also, it's considered just as bad as killing kids. 

Correct me if im wrong

Anyone can be defenseless if someone walks up to me and beats me to death while i have my pants down on the shitter i'm defenseless, anyone can be defenseless it's like the whole issue of a woman can assault a man but if a man defends himself he is in the wrong.

society is so convinced about right and wrong logic isn't used, for example if i punch a man in the face who is 100 pounds heavier than me technically i'm defenseless against him as he is largely bigger and stronger than me and by law if he hit me back i would be in the wrong and he would be defending himself, but if it was a woman or child attacking someone 100 pounds heavier the person defending themselves would be in the wrong, that is fucked up.

defense is purely situational, all life is important whether it can defend itself or not justifying that 1 life is more cherished is a terrible thing to say. I go to the gym and workout and keep healthy so does that mean i am more fair game to kill than someone else because i stay strong? i don't think so, if the answer is yes though where the strong are considered more ok 'morally correct' to kill than a weaker person then we are not all considered equal and i don't want to live in this world anymore!

[GrumpyFragger 67]

Zombie Midgets 4tw

[jaginun 87]

Yeah, this is supposed to be realistic but I don't think scarring players should be part of that realism. :P

 

For a logical excuse, just pretend they had a titanic 'women and children first' evacuation policy.

[flygamer1 176]

We should at least get crawling and prone zombies and hordes

[Al Bobo 53]

I didn't even think about the lack of children before now. If they added children, it would make the zombies more creepy for me. That's all. I had skyrim mod, that enabled killing children. I didn't add it because I wanted to kill children, but because it bothered me that when I fought people in towns and threw spells around, children were inunjured while adults flied around.

[FroztyReaper 46]

First: I would shit my pants if I saw a zombie kid walking in the middle of the night.

Second: I think some countries, as mentioned, wouldn't like this idea and some people wouldn't be able to play the game.

Third: People could refuse to kill the children, because, well... I wouldn't feel good killing kids either

 

All I can imagine by killing a zombie kid in DayZ is my character hitting the head of the baby-Z with a baseball bat and the head flying and hitting a dude at the other side of the map. Baseball-Z

 

First agreed. Would freak me out gallore

second: Shame..

Third: It would be harder yes. And add to immersion and further the endless moral dilemmas in your mind. Could i? Should I?

 

 

Apart from the second reason i dont see a point to why not. It would add to freakiness completly. So that and cannibalism :P

[FroztyReaper 46]

I understand, and if I was looking to make money on this games success, I'd agree. But, I am morally opposed to censorship of any kind. So this is bigger than DayZ for me, it carries over to everything, swastikas in video games, SS symbols, killing children, unarmed civilians, torture, rape, murder, it should never be the government telling us we can't make games/movies/books about this stuff. It should be us as individual humans saying "No, that is going too far for me" on a case by case basis.

 

Censorship is such a hypocritical thing, they can show piles of mutilated child corpses in Syria all over, but heaven forbid we kill a fictional zombie child in an 18+ video game. Fuck that, fuck censorship.

Thinking back on the airport mission in MW1.

[sai (DayZ) 137]

 

Dead space had them, there was nothing shocking about it. 

[Etherious 907]

I would love to see zombie kids within the game, granted I think it would be a low amount of them considering they would die faster from an infection. I think it would be delightful to kill zombies of different "Sizes". I mean in Skyrim it was SO fun although it was a mod.  inB4 Disgust & Hate lol xD

Edited December 30, 2013 by DJ SGTHornet

[SJKSJK 225]

Shooting children=NO

Shooting zombie children= No

 

In conclusion, no. It's pointless and in bad taste. Just think of the people of Chernaurus as a bunch childless asexuals. 

[Ubernaut 297]

Anyone else remember Grand Theft Auto 3? heh...

 

The game *allowed* you to kill hookers. To the non-gaming world, it suddenly meant that Grand Theft Auto was a game *about* killing hookers.

 

Anyone else see the correlation here?

[fortune 0]

Zombie babies too.  That would be scary.

 

holy crap that would scare the shit out of me just had to think about Freddy Kruger 

[soulfirez 901]

Realistic, like the zombies, right?

 

The zombies (who aren't truly zombies) are fiction. It could very well be that the infection has a high mortality rate which is 100% on kids.

And yes people are more prone to be accepting of killing adults than children. That's a normal thing. 

So people are more accepting of killing avatar adults hmmm bioshock never had a problem with children and that made it into australia.

 

I hate mr you know zombies aint real LOL yes i know this is a game portraying a zed apoc so something can be realistic in a sci fi or horror way maybe if you actually used cognitive thought instead of being parrot educated.......

 

Oh the Zombies in game are not zombies hmmm ok what do you think they are ?? infected like 28 days ?? that would be strange the game is called Dayz as in day zombie the devs call them zeds rocket calls them zeds so i guess that makes them zeds a little education  again without cognitive thought is a dangerous thing....

Edited December 31, 2013 by SoulFirez

[Diggydug (DayZ) 331]

I know the title of the game...but the "zombies" actually are infected like 28 Days Later. I thought that was obvious. DayZ started as a mod where Rocket didn't have a clue it would explode like it did. The name is catchy and "zombie" is used quite liberally these days.

 

I'm too lazy at the moment to grab a source but it's pretty obvious in their behavior and how they die from a shot to the gut about as well as we do.

 

My point regarding zombies being fiction, is that fiction is dictated by its creator. Tolkien decides how the elves in his universe look and what their culture is like. Bethesda does the same for their universe. Both are called "elves" but they're quite different.

The same way Rocket can say "zeds" all he wants, but that doesn't mean they're zombies as defined by typical zombie lore. A fan of zombie lore doesn't consider those in 28 Days Later actually zombies but they may well call them that for the sake of simplicity when talking about the movie.

 

Maybe the infection doesn't kill kids. Rocket has to set up how this infection works before we can say for certain. 

 

I'm providing a "realistic" explanation for a lack of kids in the game.

 

Now chill out.

Edited December 31, 2013 by Diggydug

[soulfirez 901]

I know the title of the game...but the "zombies" actually are infected like 28 Days Later. I thought that was obvious. DayZ started as a mod where Rocket didn't have a clue it would explode like it did. The name is catchy and "zombie" is used quite liberally these days.

 

I'm too lazy at the moment to grab a source but it's pretty obvious in their behavior and how they die from a shot to the gut about as well as we do.

 

My point regarding zombies being fiction, is that fiction is dictated by its creator. Tolkien decides how the elves in his universe look and what their culture is like. Bethesda does the same for their universe. Both are called "elves" but they're quite different.

The same way Rocket can say "zeds" all he wants, but that doesn't mean they're zombies as defined by typical zombie lore. A fan of zombie lore doesn't consider those in 28 Days Later actually zombies but they may well call them that for the sake of simplicity when talking about the movie.

 

Maybe the infection doesn't kill kids. Rocket has to set up how this infection works before we can say for certain. 

 

Now chill out.

Hmm im chilled just you spewed the you know zombies are fiction at me which is a clear stab at my intelligence.

 

Alright your own arguement defeats your own point just re read what you just wrote about elves and how they are portrayed in 2 different types of fiction but there both still elves hint hint.

 

I am confused at how people add 2 and 2 together and get 5 and again why because there portrayed slightly different which you youself has said can be done in different fictional settings( maybe your right they are infected but its strange to name your game that call it zombie survival and the second main foe in game (players being the main one) is not a zombie..

Edited December 31, 2013 by SoulFirez

[Diggydug (DayZ) 331]

You're missing my point and just being a dick now.

 

My point, regarding the fiction, is that WE DO NOT KNOW the lore regarding this infection or even the setting, truly. I said that I, Diggydug, like to think that the infection has a high mortality rate and it's 100% on kids. That is my personal thinking behind it...Rocket's the one who knows more than anyone how the infection works. We know nothing.

 

Maybe I'm right.

Maybe I'm wrong.

 

Kids may be upcoming, it all depends on the fiction behind it. This is Rocket's iteration of his own "zombie", not yours, not mine, but his. He can make it like I currently imagine it, or he can make it like you imagine it. We'll see...Gah so needlessly hostile.

[Arty (DayZ) 47]

Kid Zombies in No More Room in Hell are creepy and scary. It would be pretty cool if we had younger zombies which would be the fastest/weakest and old zombies that would be the slowest/weakest and of course the regular aged zombie that would be somewhere in the middle in speed and health.

 

Edit: Or what about Hannah Zombie from walking dead? That shit would scare the shit out of me while walking in the woods and stumbling upon.

Edited December 31, 2013 by Arty

[Etherious 907]

Shooting children=NO

Shooting zombie children= No

In conclusion, no. It's pointless and in bad taste. Just think of the people of Chernaurus as a bunch childless asexuals.

I would love to shoot zombie children, it would be fun. :3 Zombie Realism woot!

[soulfirez 901]

Your passive aggresive a pet peeve of mine but in its not our ideas that matter but the devs so on that we agree have my beans as proof no hard feelings and im not being needlessly hostile, I am responding to what you wrote and giving it exactly the right measure to my mind considering the underlying tones of your intent.

 

Zed children yes or no will be decided by devs (and them considering censorship) but your original post you stated out what you thought was the lore of this fiction and as you now have stated you dont know what the law is in regard to the setting so kinda makes your first post which you direcdted at me redundant......

 

Scratch giving you my beans as i am not being a dick unless the defintion of a dick is pointing out your obviously eductated but are not using cognitive thought to go with it and just spewing well crap.......

Edited December 31, 2013 by SoulFirez

[res 373]

Come on now. All that fucking drama of some you people is really unnecessary.

 

Look at how robotic the zombies are in this game. They have no fluid movements, it's so obvious that they are nothing but programmed machines that it is impossible to get immersed seriously in the game. They all make the same noises and walk or run the same way (and obviously, they look the same). Oh, and suuuuuuure..killing..

All you have to do is to press the left botton of your comfortable mouse, you're not wielding a gun, feeling the heat and the violent recoil of it, you don't feel it's weight and the huge pain that it is pointing it at a living person who has achieved lots of stuff in it's life, has come through a long way to get there and now you're ripping it all off in less than a second. Pop. It's gone.

 

Children in DayZ? Sure. But after thinking about it. It's just not necessary. For us, the people who usually play DayZ for long times, it would just get boring. I say spend time on making some important features first, make Standalone have MORE content than the mod. When it's all over..sure, do it. I won't notice the diference from killing one or the other. DayZ is a realistic game, but when it comes to visual and audible human expression, it sucks. Just like that. We're here for the survival part of a zombie apocalypse, not the gore one.