More Like Admin Abuse

[Areoss 4]

I feel it will be better to understand my frustration if I tell the story of how things went down rather than jump into what they did.

These notes are as true as I remember them to be. Some small details may be missing but that would only be to what we were doing and where my friends were etc, the point of my post is what happened.

I was playing on sever 'US79' I believe last night, and all was going well.

I was running about in the woods. Location, following the power line from pridorokgy up past the small village just north of Vysota. Continuing up around the bend through the woods into the open fields, following the north split of the cables. Now if you follow the road along side of the power lines, there is only one small patch of forrest to the west of the road in the open clearing area.

I was in there, facing south with my CZ scope.

One of my friends was looking for animals for me because I had 900 blood left, and the other was scouting the area around behind me.

Now directly opposite me I see 2 people running through the field. Almost as if they had come from Balota, followed the main road inland, and then stopped half way up the road and went directly north.

So I took my shot after discussion with my friends whether to leave them or not. They had an AK and a Winchester as a minimum that I know of.

I scored 2 direct hits within a second each, as headshots (Marksman gaming experience paid off).

About 4 seconds of celebrating my kills happened and then sending my friend to loot... the server instantly shut down and restarted. We were confused.

We logged back onto the game, and we noticed that our blood had increased. I was now sitting about 1.4k ish up from 900. Which was the health I had like about half an hour previously, my ammo was also back to what it was before I took the shots.

Their corpses are also gone. And I saw in the chat someone thanking that either they were admin, or thanking someone else for being the admin in broken English.

The guys names of who I killed... were:

Bratwurscht, and Volmat.

Now I don't think it was co-incidence that the server dropped pretty much instantly after I head shot the two of them, and that our health increased and my ammo was replaced.

I don't know what the process will be now that I have told my tale, but I can guarantee that it extremely frustrated me and my friends. Everything we did was legit and was having a lot of fun up until that point.

I believe it was just a case of sore losers.

Is there anything that can be done about this kind of thing?

:Edit: it seems that it will only be acted upon if there is solid evidence. So from now on, every kill I make either in self defence or out of desperation as I have done, shall be Fraps'd to capture any abusive behaviour.

[dinosaurJR 0]

There really is no point in reporting any admin abuse (real or imagined) any more. Read the below thread.

http://www.dayzmod.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=17245

[Wotane 0]

lol the only admin on the server is me. The server restarts every 8 hours.

I haven't even been on the server for almost a week, nor do I know those players so don't think that happen.

And why would an admin bother restarting to protect his winchester and AK? lolol

[Wotane 0]

the DayZ staff cheat and exploit? Someone said it on the internet so it must be true!

[Areoss 4]

Im aware that the server restarts every 8 hours. But there was no message indicating that it would restart any time soon.

I was on the server for at least 3 hours.

Although I don't appreciate your condecending attitude towards someone who was happily enjoying your server.

I also have no "solid" evidence that it was someone basically crying about losing their loot.

For all I am aware, they could have had more stuff since I wasn't looting them. I only saw what was visual on their back.

I just find it very suspicious that I kill 2 people, and then very very soon after, the server restarts with our own stats and equipment modified. With the addition of someone speaking in the chat about admins in what ever language it may have been.

Not only that, when I bring my experience forward which I assume that an admin of his own server would look into because there could be something fishy going on... instead he acts the big man behind the computer and ridicules the issue and basically laughs. Not exactly the best of attitudes.

Refrain from being childish if you are going to reply to me please. Ridiculing with statements such as "someone said it on the internet so it must be true" and such will be void.

I cannot provide proof that this is the case but I do have strong reason to believe with 2 other people who experienced the moment with me.

The same as you cannot provide evidence apart from copy and pasted text server logs which could easily be tampered with, and your own "true" word, which has lost its value immediately upon entering and responding to this post in the manner that you did so.

[Wotane 0]

actually the post I said about the someone said it on the internet so it must be true was to the post that apparently got deleted saying how the DayZ staff are hackers and stuff o.O Weird.

Anyways, there is no warning besides the initial warning that it restarts every 8 hours.

Just think its kinda funny you go instantly for admin abuse when the server restarts after you kill two people lol. No way it can be a coincidence! Absolutely not! Thats just impossible and silly!

Let me reiterate incase you failed to understand my first post. The ONLY admin on the server is me, WOTANE, no one else can restart the server. Nor would I if I was killed, the ONLY time it is restarted is every 8 hours OR when applying updates. There is ZERO warning when it restarts.

[torturedchunk 22]

That is where you fail as an admin Wotane. It is your duty, as an admin for a DayZ server, to provide (the best that you can) adequate notice for restarts.

The fact that you come in here and pronounce yourself as the admin and laugh at him about this, only shows that your nothing but a child. Loot is loot, and any good admin would look into this and not lolol at a player that uses your server.

He brought up a legitimate concern, and your immature attitude only points towards you being not only capable but guilty of such shenanigans.

@ OP - Ditch the server. Obviously this admin isn't worth the trouble.

[Zoop 343]

And with the limited tools, how do you expect us to inform people every time the server restarts? We don't have any tools that automatically broadcast just before a server restart, and much less can anyone expect us to sit at our PCs, waiting for the restarts to roll aroun so we can log onto the server and tell everyone first.

[torturedchunk 22]

You're right Zoop. We do have limited resources when it comes to admin. That was a smaller point I made. The bigger picture is how he dealt with it. He was on the defensive from the get go.

My main point is, it's all about how you handle it. To come on here and laugh about it only points the finger more in his direction.

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He also mentioned that the said loot was not worth restarting for. However, if you had that gear or any gear, would you not kill to protect it?

I'm not saying it was him that died or had anything to do with the restart. However, if it was, that was his way of protecting his loot. Which is wrong.

He could have handled this a better way,

[Ghandi 0]

lol the only admin on the server is me. The server restarts every 8 hours.

I haven't even been on the server for almost a week' date=' nor do I know those players so don't think that happen.

And why would an admin bother restarting to protect his winchester and AK? lolol

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Consider having the server announce before a restart, say at 15, 10, 5 minutes for example. That way you will avoid threads like this being created by confused players who will end up dragging your servers name through the mud. A little professionalism goes a long way.

[willieredneck 8]

lol the only admin on the server is me. The server restarts every 8 hours.

I haven't even been on the server for almost a week' date=' nor do I know those players so don't think that happen.

And why would an admin bother restarting to protect his winchester and AK? lolol

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So basically you are saying to anyone playing on your server is that you really could care less about any issues they may experience. I would have easily sided with you on this, had you just said that you would look into it, or did look into it but didn't find anything out of the ordinary.

And as far as why anyone would protect their weapons, really? When you die and spawn with nothing but a flashlight, you think those weapons are not valuable to noobs and those who just play for the action of it all?

[torturedchunk 22]

.... A little professionalism goes a long way.

Thank you. :D

[Zoop 343]

You're right Zoop. We do have limited resources when it comes to admin. That was a smaller point I made. The bigger picture is how he dealt with it. He was on the defensive from the get go.

My main point is' date=' it's all about how you handle it. To come on here and laugh about it only points the finger more in his direction.

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He also mentioned that the said loot was not worth restarting for. However, if you had that gear or any gear, would you not kill to protect it?

I'm not saying it was him that died or had anything to do with the restart. However, if it was, that was his way of protecting his loot. Which is wrong.

He could have handled this a better way,

Indeed, his manner of handling it leaves a lot to be desired.

lol the only admin on the server is me. The server restarts every 8 hours.

I haven't even been on the server for almost a week' date=' nor do I know those players so don't think that happen.

And why would an admin bother restarting to protect his winchester and AK? lolol

[/quote']

Consider having the server announce before a restart, say at 15, 10, 5 minutes for example. That way you will avoid threads like this being created by confused players who will end up dragging your servers name through the mud. A little professionalism goes a long way.

The problem is, aside from actually actively announcing it ourselves, there is no other way of doing it. We don't have tools available to us that automatically broadcasts just before the server resets. Not all of us have the time to ensure we're at our PCs every time just before a restart so that we can announce restarts.

[tg marksman x 0]

^^ Exactly. People on my server are always complaining that I don't announce prior to a restart. I can't announce a restart if I'm not there.

[Ghandi 0]

Hopefully the devs can knock up some code that allows you to do this, it shouldn't be that difficult to do, though I've only mucked about in VB personally so what do I know, I hear the ArmA engine is tough to code for.

[torturedchunk 22]

It might not need to be on the Devs. If battleye can send a global message based on a script, we should be allowed/able to do the same.

Either way, there aren't many coincidences in DayZ. If a server restarts right after a death, it's usually abuse.

My 2 cents anyway.

[corruptshadow 4]

Wow what a bunch of babies, the guy puts up his OWN money to host a server so YOU guys can enjoy the game. He doesnt owe you anything if you dont like how he runs his server go play another one there is plenty out there.

[MarKeR (DayZ) 57]

Battle eye can be configured to send restart messages, an hour before, then 30 mins, al, the way down to 30 seconds..

[Areoss 4]

I would have easily sided with you on this' date=' had you just said that you would look into it, or did look into it but didn't find anything out of the ordinary.

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I also agree with this. If he would have came across and said that he would look into it, or even give me some form of an adult response in a more professional way. I would have been happy and moved on.

This is clearly not the case though.

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Battle eye can be configured to send restart messages' date=' an hour before, then 30 mins, al, the way down to 30 seconds..

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I have noticed automated messages previously on different servers. Thanks for clearing this one up.

Thanks for those who can see my point of view that not only did the server go down imediately after the kills were made, but also the data was rolled back a slight amount (I know it takes time to write to sql files so the data isnt imediately saved) which apparently has been ignored by the admin as not even a concern.

Sure its his money or who ever chips in for it, but at the end of the day... if you want people to use your server and be happy with it and not have the possibility of hosting rights be taken away from you... you should take the issues that are being presented seriously, and not just 'lololol'ing at them as they arrise.

Also no explination for the broken english thanking admins?

Either way i'm not returning to that server.

Ofcourse I have no solid evidence of this because I didn't expect it to happen, otherwise I would have had it fraps'd and linked into here for others to see as well.

I hope you take possible issues into consideration in the future rather than laughing at them.

Your post may have not been directed at me about 'its on the internet', but the statement standed for its self by what you meant by it.

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Wow what a bunch of babies' date=' the guy puts up his OWN money to host a server so YOU guys can enjoy the game. He doesnt owe you anything if you dont like how he runs his server go play another one there is plenty out there.

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this isnt about me crying over losing items that I could have gained. This is about the exploitations of potential privilages that he/she may have had or were able to do.

It is raising an issue, not crying that I didnt get lootz. Read up properly first please, before trying to bring down the origional point that I made as 'crying'.

[Zoop 343]

Battle eye can be configured to send restart messages' date=' an hour before, then 30 mins, al, the way down to 30 seconds..

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Ooh, could you please provide some details on how/where to do this, please?

[dromagewok@hotmail.com 164]

this isnt about me crying over losing items.

It is raising an issue' date=' not crying that I didnt get lootz.

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LOLOL

The most ironic thing about this is that you actually didn't lose anything at all, if it had been the opposite where you got killed and the server restarted no one would of even seen a thread on here.

[Areoss 4]

So... your saying....

that if I died and lost my stuff... and then the server restarted before they could loot me... that I wouldn't come on here claiming that there is someone potentially cheating in my encounter, from my experience?!?!

You must be on to something there!

Try not to de-rail this and twist it to seem pathetic from a completely illogical point of view in the future.

"LOLOL" ;)