beani5003 28 Posted December 22, 2013 Me and a few others in our clan took a player hostage today, we ended up wasting 3 handcuffs on him because every time we put a set on him, he would immediately start struggling out of them, we ended up having to kill him in the end. Could it be changed so you cannot struggle out the handcuffs if someone is within say 10m of you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
creature 1189 Posted December 22, 2013 Right. Then YOU get handcuffed and your captor decides to go afk for 2 hours just for the lulz and we get a new post saying to nerf handcuffs. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hombrecz 832 Posted December 22, 2013 Right. Then YOU get handcuffed and your captor decides to go afk for 2 hours just for the lulz and we get a new post saying to nerf handcuffs. Well you can slowly walk while being handcuffed :). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beani5003 28 Posted December 22, 2013 wouldn't bother me, i'd just disconnect and go play another game, or join another server.Anyway it wouldn't be a hard thing to implement a timer into it, say if the afk player has not moved for 20 or 30 min, you can struggle out then.The way it is now is rather pointless and just leads to people being killed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
creature 1189 Posted December 22, 2013 Well you can slowly walk while being handcuffed :). Not if he breaks your legs. :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lordsarito 42 Posted December 22, 2013 wouldn't bother me, i'd just disconnect and go play another game, or join another server.Anyway it wouldn't be a hard thing to implement a timer into it, say if the afk player has not moved for 20 or 30 min, you can struggle out then.The way it is now is rather pointless and just leads to people being killed. After the newest patch if you disconnect while handcuffed you'll die. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Verex11 95 Posted December 22, 2013 (edited) I agree. The handcuffs are a little weird at the moment, you can easily walk around for 5 seconds and break out. Makes them almost useless if you're trying to hold someone up, but If you tell them to stop trying to get out of them and they don't I would call that grounds enough to put a bullet in their head. Their fault. :thumbsup: Edited December 22, 2013 by Verex11 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
onty 109 Posted December 22, 2013 (edited) As one of the options I'm seeing this...If player that handcuffed you, is aiming his weapon at you, than you wont be able to struggle...Cus that would make a sence..You don't wanna keep trying to escape if your captor is watching you all the time..... In reality it'd probably mean you ending up dead with a bullet in your head. Edited December 22, 2013 by OntyCZE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jOKe (DayZ) 2 Posted December 22, 2013 (edited) I don't think any artificial gameplay needs to be added to restrict players further. I DO think handcuffs are fine as they are. However, the length of time which you spend struggling to get out of them needs to be DRAMATICALLY increased. Maybe to 5 minutes or something. I would also love if an axe could be used to break handcuffs on someone else (Titanic style). :3 Edited December 22, 2013 by jOKe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
onty 109 Posted December 22, 2013 I don't think any artificial gameplay needs to be added to restrict players further. I DO think handcuffs are fine as they are. However, the length of time which you spend struggling to get out of them needs to be DRAMATICALLY increased. Maybe to 5 minutes or something. I would also love if an axe could be used to break handcuffs on someone else (Titanic style). :3 Oh yes..Let us break the handcuffs with a help of another person.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hombrecz 832 Posted December 23, 2013 Oh yes..Let us break the handcuffs with a help of another person.. Yes, the more opportunities for cooperation, the better.And also think, that it should take a bit more to break from handcuffs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nuclear194 2 Posted December 23, 2013 Well, if the hostage is struggling with the handcuffs you should tell him to stop, and perhaps hit him once or twice. If he continue struggling you should shot him. That's how it's supposed to work, as a captor you must watch your hostage so he doesn't try to escape, and if he does you must punish him for it. It could lead to interesting situations where the hostage struggles when you have your back turned/are not looking etc. But I do agree that they should take a longer time to get out off, and also fix the bugs where the keys don't work, you can't stand up or the handcuff animation keeps glitching etc. Once I handcuffed my friend as a joke, and he tried getting them off for what seemed like 10 minutes before I had to kill him. :( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aelus 14 Posted December 23, 2013 Yes, the more opportunities for cooperation, the better.And also think, that it should take a bit more to break from handcuffs. Agreed. The fun it would cause to break someones handcuffs then proceed to killing them. Can you picture the rage that would come about!? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hombrecz 832 Posted December 23, 2013 Agreed. The fun it would cause to break someones handcuffs then proceed to killing them. Can you picture the rage that would come about!? I ment more like help somebody to break out of them but OK. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SalamanderAnder (DayZ) 1747 Posted December 23, 2013 I think the amount of time it takes to struggle out of restraints has to do with the condition of the handcuffs. Pristine handcuffs will take a long time to struggle out of. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Knightmare (DayZ) 109 Posted December 23, 2013 Well if they want to struggle right in front of you, then they're forcing your hand. That's on them, not on you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IcyBlade 48 Posted December 23, 2013 The struggle action is fairly obvious, so just be clear, "If you struggle then you die". It's not your fault if they can't follow basic instructions. Also I recall that in a twitch stream they mentioned they wanted to increase the time for breaking the cuffs. Perhaps it could be harder if you are on the ground, so you could force them to lie down so that you would have more time.More control over cuffed players therefore could be nice i.e. lead them around, kick them to their knees or on the floor.You can already force feed them what is basically bleach so moving them around is not so bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Professional N00b 347 Posted December 23, 2013 Just remember: I can break these cuffs. Also, I think we should be able to use fuzzy pink handcuffs too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whatup2003 67 Posted December 23, 2013 After the newest patch if you disconnect while handcuffed you'll die.So? Most of the captors will kill you eventually or at least strip you clean. Might as well save some time and suicide. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andrestor 78 Posted December 23, 2013 If you are having people struggling with handcuffs just threaten them to stop or shoot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lordsarito 42 Posted December 23, 2013 So? Most of the captors will kill you eventually or at least strip you clean. Might as well save some time and suicide. The guy I was replying to was saying he'd simply go to another server, I just told him if he did that he would die. Also, if you want to take the coward way out and suicide then be my guest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whatup2003 67 Posted December 23, 2013 (edited) The guy I was replying to was saying he'd simply go to another server, I just told him if he did that he would die. Also, if you want to take the coward way out and suicide then be my guest.LoL, how's my way a coward way out? The way I see it when you are captured and humiliated and you still comply and hope they'd set your miserable life free. That's being a coward. Unless, you like being cuffed by a bunch of dudes and feed you weird stuff. I don't know what kind of stuff turns you on man. Edited December 23, 2013 by realm13 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaxUK 61 Posted December 23, 2013 Increase escape times on all methods of subduing and add a non-lethal way of resetting the struggle timer. Have an option to hit them or something if they start struggling. This will require someone to watch them to keep them subdued and is much fairer than something like preventing them from struggling if someone is near or looking at them. You could also increase the struggle time by several minutes on handcuffs but allow people to instantly remove them with pliers or something similar. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites