Server Owners get nothing????

[BRKermit 10]

So I'm helping support the Alpha and paying for the server and I get nothing. I work 10 hours a day commute 1 hour each way leave home when its dark and get home in the dark and I cant even change the day settings on the server I pay for so I can at least play in the daylight. Rocket you suck!! Lighten up and give us some basic functions. Right now I can change the name but not the whole name just one little section still have "Dayz NY" junk in front, I can set restart time but there is no messaging to warn players ingame before it happens just the load in messages, could change time for 30 min last night then the update killed that, thanks :P  Because you set the bar so high for the service providers requirements on what they have to give in way of public servers they are screwing us with server cost of $70 for 30 slots, 4 times that of the Arma 2 Dayz. Not saying you have to give it all but here's the short list.

 

Must have:

Full name control

Day time settings

in game messages, clan advertising and server restart warnings

 

Wish list:

Private hive 

Load out options

 

Theres ways you can make it private... but it might be against your hoster's T/C's... Sigh... I want a private hive too.. If you ever need help adding anything PM me!  B)

 

 

This is forum is sooo bi-est against private hive's, everyone seems to of had a bad experience with them or most of them, there's a few that are great though. I do agree tho, in some aspects and some communitys and servers private hives do ruin the game.

Edited December 18, 2013 by BRKermit

[Hosty 647]

My response to private hives in SA:

 

 

 

 

I think private hives should stay in the mod.

It's what ruined the whole experience for me.

[Mos1ey 6301]

Must have:

Full name control

Day time settings

in game messages, clan advertising and server restart warnings

 

Wish list:

Private hive 

Load out options

 

Full name control was never allowed on the main hive. It makes it easier to report servers which are not following the rules, which is vital for a level playing field when everyone is playing on the main hive.

 

I'm not sure what Rocket's plans are regarding the setting server time. Personally I don't see a problem with giving server owners control there.

 

In game messages i.e. death messages have been removed from the game AFAIK. This isn't a server feature. Restart warning would be nice though.

 

I honestly hope they decide against ever making private hives available. The current state of DayZ is such a refreshing change from the bastardisation of the mod.

 

Load out options - :facepalm:

Edited December 18, 2013 by Mos1ey

[+PL+ Faded 6]

There's a lot of zealous horse riders on this forum, your ideas, logic and argument's are invalid. Join a private community, and we will listen.

 

Theres ways you can make it private... but it might be against your hoster's T/C's... Sigh... I want a private hive too.. If you ever need help adding anything PM me!  B)

 

 

This is forum is sooo bi-est against private hive's, everyone seems to of had a bad experience with them or most of them, there's a few that are great though. I do agree tho, in some aspects and some communitys and servers private hives do ruin the game.

 

wait so your talking down to me about Wanting private hives... But yet you ur self want them??? Right!!!

[BRKermit 10]

Full name control was never allowed on the main hive. It makes it easier to report servers which are not following the rules, which is vital for a level playing field when everyone is playing on the main hive.

 

I'm not sure what Rocket's plans are regarding the setting server time. Personally I don't see a problem with giving server owners control there.

 

In game messages i.e. death messages have been removed from the game AFAIK. This isn't a server feature. Restart warning would be nice though.

 

I honestly hope they decide against ever making private hives available. The current state of DayZ is such a refreshing change from the bastardisation of the mod.

 

Load out options - :facepalm:

 

There's private hive's that don't have loadout options, are legitly a mirror of a public hive with more features, but I guess a few rotten apple's, makes every apple rotten...

 

"sighs" :|

 

 

wait so your talking down to me about Wanting private hives... But yet you ur self want them??? Right!!!

 

No man, I was agreeing with you. Everyone here is zealous for public hive's... Even though in the right hands a private hive could be 20x time's better than a public and its been proven over and over again... just afew bad fruits ina basket, makes it look like the whole basket is rotten. People don't take time to sort through the bad fruits and the good ones.

Edited December 18, 2013 by BRKermit

[Mos1ey 6301]

There's private hive's that don't have loadout options, are legitly a mirror of a public hive with more features, but I guess a few rotten apple's, makes every apple rotten...

 

"sighs" :|

 

If by more features you mean 10k vehicles, self-blood bagging and 24/7 daylight then yes, I've seen them.

[AnarchyBrownies 1383]

I personally find that private hives completely fractured the community and gave newcomers the wrong idea of DayZ. Limited control for server owners is my vote. Let them have control within reason but basically keep the whole thing nice and tight.

 

As it has been stated countless times in only two pages, custom load outs are a joke.

[TheRedScare 353]

If by more features you mean 10k vehicles, self-blood bagging and 24/7 daylight then yes, I've seen them.

Gonna have to defend private hives. Not all of them do that. You can't just group them all together like that. I ran a private hive and it was identical to vanilla, only addition was some bandit AI with basic gear (revolver+shotgun) that patrolled high loot areas to kill survivors.

[Mos1ey 6301]

Gonna have to defend private hives. Not all of them do that. You can't just group them all together like that. I ran a private hive and it was identical to vanilla, only addition was some bandit AI with basic gear (revolver+shotgun) that patrolled high loot areas to kill survivors.

 

IMO adding AI other than zombies pretty much goes against everything that DayZ is.

 

I know of a few vanilla private hives but they're severely underpopulated because everyone is drawn to the easy-mode servers. I'd be incredibly upset to see DayZ go the same way...

[BRKermit 10]

If by more features you mean 10k vehicles, self-blood bagging and 24/7 daylight then yes, I've seen them.

 

No, I mean like random event's, Make certain lootable items even more rare to find, (Auto Refuel maybe be the best (Well known script that I actually support in terms of your logic on private hives) anyways, more military base's, etc etc.

 

 

Gonna have to defend private hives. Not all of them do that. You can't just group them all together like that. I ran a private hive and it was identical to vanilla, only addition was some bandit AI with basic gear (revolver+shotgun) that patrolled high loot areas to kill survivors.

 

(Rubs his eyes) Holy... o my... yes... just yes!

 

I think we might be coming on to somthing...  :rolleyes:

 

Wait all public hives are better, private hives suck SHAME ON U RED. Send him to the brink!

Edited December 18, 2013 by BRKermit

[AnarchyBrownies 1383]

Gonna have to defend private hives. Not all of them do that. You can't just group them all together like that. I ran a private hive and it was identical to vanilla, only addition was some bandit AI with basic gear (revolver+shotgun) that patrolled high loot areas to kill survivors.

 

You have to go with what the majority were like though. I believe good private hives were the special cases.

[+PL+ Faded 6]

If by more features you mean 10k vehicles, self-blood bagging and 24/7 daylight then yes, I've seen them.

So whats wrong with letting people play the game how they want to? No one is forcing people to play on a private hive that lets you mod...

[TheRedScare 353]

IMO adding AI other than zombies pretty much goes against everything that DayZ is.

 

I know of a few vanilla private hives but they're severely underpopulated because everyone is drawn to the easy-mode servers. I'd be incredibly upset to see DayZ go the same way...

2 AI bandits that do not respawn until restart and are there to stop one guy waiting till no one is online going to NWAF and gearing up then camping somewhere and KOSing everyone. I believe it has improved my server.

[muggerfugger (DayZ) 35]

My response to private hives in SA:

 

 

 

 

I think private hives should stay in the mod.

It's what ruined the whole experience for me.

Why would it ruin any experience for you? As with the mod, you had the option to play public hive server. No one was forcing you to play private.

I don't like pizza flavored ice cream, doesn't mean they gotta stop making it, i just personally wont eat it.

[+PL+ Faded 6]

IMO adding AI other than zombies pretty much goes against everything that DayZ is.

 

I know of a few vanilla private hives but they're severely underpopulated because everyone is drawn to the easy-mode servers. I'd be incredibly upset to see DayZ go the same way...

But didnt dayz Go against everything arma  was??? and made into a Zombie game the game that it is today??? i think so

[TheRedScare 353]

You have to go with what the majority were like though. I believe good private hives were the special cases.

I am aware of the majority but if thats how people want to play I don't care really. I like private hives because good private hives with good administrators can be way more effective at dealing with hackers and can help people affected by hacks. I back up my mySQL database daily so that if we get attacked I can roll it all back and use PHP tools to remove any trace of the hacker all within 10 minutes of him hacking.

[Etherimp 1323]

Oh for fuck sake people If u dont want to play on a server that lets u have 1000 cars or 1000 of whatever then dont play on the dam server it isnt that hard to understand.. Pick one that is hosted by the game so u can pretend in your little one minded world that ur playing a REAL ZOMBIE game... Most of us just want to Make shit go BOOM and listen to you girls cry about KOS..... Welcome to Dayz !!!

 

 

 

 P.S You people are as bad as the people Complaining the Alpha is shit... Get over it!!

 

 

No. DayZ is not meant to have 1000 vehicles and custom loadouts and 24 days. If you want that shit, go play Battlefield 4. You're the one playing the wrong game, not "us". Some of us don't want the game to be ruined (yes, ruined) by thousands of private hive servers.

[Strategos (DayZ) 190]

Yeah private Hive screwed the mod beyond recognition. People simply can't be trusted to "play the game how they want" if they are given an easy option 90%+ take it. Hopefully Rocket will keep this locked up nice and tight so he can keep control of his baby and we can all play Dayz the way he intends it.

[Mos1ey 6301]

So whats wrong with letting people play the game how they want to? No one is forcing people to play on a private hive that lets you mod...

 

Because people are generally drawn to the path of least resistance. Meaning the 'easy mode' servers are full and everyone else is left with the choice of that or playing on an empty vanilla server.

[AnarchyBrownies 1383]

So whats wrong with letting people play the game how they want to? No one is forcing people to play on a private hive that lets you mod...

 

Go play a different game if you don't like the one given to you.

 

Better yet, make your own.

 

EDIT: Point being, don't call it DayZ.

Edited December 18, 2013 by AnarchyBrownies

[Hosty 647]

So whats wrong with letting people play the game how they want to? No one is forcing people to play on a private hive that lets you mod...

 

Are you stupid?

Go right now and open DayZ Commander.

 

99% of the popular servers were/are private hives.

Private hives will DOMINATE because of the settings that lets lazy people get into the game right away which is exactly what Rocket is against.

 

It's his game and BI's, he decides.

I don't see private hives ever coming on DayZ SA in Alpha/Beta.

[TheRedScare 353]

It didn't screw the mod beyond recognition unless you played on those servers. If you played on public hives the mod was how it always was.

[BRKermit 10]

Actually I must admit, I run Two private hives, one does have loadouts... and I do admit it killed it for me, I don't play on it... but ALOT of people do, even people without loadouts... and yes it has over 1000+ vehicles, I've been here from the start. I support private but I seen what private can do as in killing the real DayZ game, were as survival random meetups with random players trading gear, equipment even grouping for a bit used to be popular... Even role-playing 

DemonGroover

 

Mos1ey

 

 

Do you guys remember the old role-playing days, and the rarity of vehicles, and if you saw a helicopter you were in awe of anyone who was flying it... I support private too you guys, its like to different gamemodes. I do really miss the old dayz, and I hate private for making usually every player who gets on KoS but ina point, even on public people do the same after so long.

 

Plus with private loadout servers, gear and killing doesn't just feel the same, as blowing someones brains out ona public server, you'l know what I mean if you played as long and as much as me.

Edited December 18, 2013 by BRKermit

[AnarchyBrownies 1383]

By the way, I love the logic of saying "People who don't like it, don't have to play it" coming from people who are already looking for the right to change a game that just came out and hasn't even left alpha yet.

[+PL+ Faded 6]

Because people are generally drawn to the path of least resistance. Meaning the 'easy mode' servers are full and everyone else is left with the choice of that or playing on an empty vanilla server.

Well that alone speaks for it self tho, If people rather play one way they will do that, if they want to play normal mode then people will, From the looks of it no one will be lonely in a normal servers, were everyone else will be playing how they want it..