Are There Only 3 Guns On 1st Release?

[Zombie Lord 0]

I'm sure there will be an AK variant with just as many attachments as the M4. The M4 just happened to be out first. I'm sure you're much more likely to find an AK in Russia than an M4, but considering how many M4's are floating around in the world it's not unreasonable to expect to find one just about anywhere.

 

No doubt there will be an AK variants with some good solid attachments in future updates. The AK Series where in the original mod with a handful of common variations of this model. the sake of "authenticity" though, i beleive this weapon shouldnt even been the current build of the game.

 

Also i disagree, i highly doubt M4s are commonly floating around in the world today. There US Military Grade weapons and not commonly sold or smuggled out on black market like the AK74's are to a hand full of ThirdWorld countries.    

[icedon 5]

My bet is the M4 is in to present and test the attachement system. And there is no better weapon than an M4 to test attachements (SOPMOD).

SA at the moment is no game but a testbed of systems and gameplay - so the wepons don't really have to make sense in the contextual sense but in the systems sense.

[Zombie Lord 0]

The M4 is not the flagship weapon.

The M4 was forefront of development because it's the weapon that can handle the most attachments in pretty much every aspect (Foregrip, Scope, Stock etc.) and is therefore a good weapon to work back from.

It is easier to create new weapons with LESS functionality than create lesser weapons and add MORE functionality for each of them.

 

You are already expecting to get flamed, not due to fanboyism but because you are just plain wrong.

 

FlagShip is not something i came up with lol. This is comming from their site http://dayzintel.com/dayz-weapons/m4 and im positive the AN94 and or AK47M can support and good amount of attachments to test out this feature and at the same time be a weapon that makes more sense being in Chernogorsk.

 

As for the whole finding weapons in a house not being realistic 95% of the weapons planed for the game are hunting weaponary and Imperial Russian Army Antiques which do make sense being in a residents household. The M4 is the only Military Grade weapon that doesnt stick with fluidity of the current listing of weaponary. And IF there are going to add a Military Grade Weapon to TEST out their attachment system the Weapons i've listed above make more sense considering how much effort theyve put into keeping this game realistic. 

Edited December 18, 2013 by Zombie Lord

[rossums 2190]

The loot tables have not yet been properly balanced and divided up to the extent they will be.

Weapons such as the M4 will become a lot rarer compared to some of the more basic weapons.

Edit: DayZIntel is also balls.

Edited December 18, 2013 by Rossums

[BRKermit 10]

Well correct me if I'm wrong but the russians have a gun similar to the m4 right... its not the AK but its similar, but more M4, M16 looking.

Edited December 18, 2013 by BRKermit

[Zombie Lord 0]

The loot tables have not yet been properly balanced and divided up to the extent they will be.

Weapons such as the M4 will become a lot rarer compared to some of the more basic weapons.

Edit: DayZIntel is also balls.

 

Yea I was thinking the same thing for example only having this weapon spawn at an American Chopper crash site as a rarer drop. Would be the only way id see it working in the future and for people to appreciate its value.

[SFRGaming 718]

FlagShip is not something i came up with lol. This is comming from their site http://dayzintel.com/dayz-weapons/m4 and im positive the AN94 and or AK47M can support and good amount of attachments to test out this feature and at the same time be a weapon that makes more sense being in Chernogorsk.

 

As for the whole finding weapons in a house not being realistic 95% of the weapons planed for the game are hunting weaponary and Imperial Russian Army Antiques which do make sense being in a residents household. The M4 is the only Military Grade weapon that doesnt stick with fluidity of the current listing of weaponary. And IF there are going to add a Military Grade Weapon to TEST out their attachment system the Weapons i've listed above make more sense considering how much effort theyve put into keeping this game realistic. 

Can you put a Foregrip on a Basic Model AK-47/74? No. Can you change the forearm of a Basic Model AK-47/74 within a 10 sec timespan? No. Can you change the stock of a Basic Model AK-47/74 in a 10 sec timespan? No. This is why the M4 was the gun Dean decided to make first. Anything you can imagine attaching to a gun can be possible with a M4.

[Inception. 9443]

 

 

Merged.

[iongaming33@aim.com 137]

There shouldnt be a ton of military grade weapons in the game, the standalone is a zombie survial game not a military sim like arma was. >90% of the population isn't going to know how to fire accuratly a military grade sniper rifle at more than a few hundred yards. That was one of the biggest turn offs for most people, the fact that the mod devolved mostly into a massive TDM. I wouldn't care if they added some bolt action rifles or something but people calling for .50 cal anti material rifles etc and lmgs is absurd

You won't have to worry about that. The devs are in the right direction as far as you and I are concerned, we could probably expect some basic rifles, maybe a few civilian assault rifles, nothing too heavy, but probably some rare attachments that give you tactical advantages.

[CarolKarine 8]

Well correct me if I'm wrong but the russians have a gun similar to the m4 right... its not the AK but its similar, but more M4, M16 looking.

 

I believe you're thinking of the AK-12. it looks similar to m4 variants because it uses a standard rail mounting system.

[SalamanderAnder (DayZ) 1747]

No doubt there will be an AK variants with some good solid attachments in future updates. The AK Series where in the original mod with a handful of common variations of this model. the sake of "authenticity" though, i beleive this weapon shouldnt even been the current build of the game.

 

Also i disagree, i highly doubt M4s are commonly floating around in the world today. There US Military Grade weapons and not commonly sold or smuggled out on black market like the AK74's are to a hand full of ThirdWorld countries.    

 

 

Wrong, wrong, wrong. Colt, along with other American gun manufacturers, is one of the world's largest exporters of guns. In fact, guns are the main export of the United States. Thinking they just cease to exist in other countries is ignorance. Other nations buy weapons from us, so they are in fact used in other countries around the world. Apart from the Ak-47, the M4 and variants are the most popular small arm in the world.

 

M4's also are easily sold to Cartels at gun shows near the Mexican border. Saying M4's aren't smuggled but Ak's are... just silly. Don't let national pride ruin your judgment. In fact, it's very common practice for the American military to leave behind thousands of rifles in old combat zones, because it's cheaper to just make more guns than to ship them back to the United States.

 

Haven't you ever seen Scarface?

Edited December 18, 2013 by SalamanderAnder

[Ham_Sandwich27 108]

Wrong, wrong, wrong. Colt, along with other American gun manufacturers, is one of the world's largest exporters of guns. In fact, it guns are the main export of the United States. Thinking they just cease to exist in other countries is just ignorant. Other nations buy weapons from us, so they are in fact used in other countries around the world. Apart from the Ak-47, the M4 and variants are the most popular small arm in the world.

 

not to mention there are literally dozens of manufacturers building ARs both in the US and around the world. Turkey, China, even Iran build and export ARs around the world.

[mrscratch 20]

There shouldnt be a ton of military grade weapons in the game, the standalone is a zombie survial game not a military sim like arma was. >90% of the population isn't going to know how to fire accuratly a military grade sniper rifle at more than a few hundred yards. That was one of the biggest turn offs for most people, the fact that the mod devolved mostly into a massive TDM. I wouldn't care if they added some bolt action rifles or something but people calling for .50 cal anti material rifles etc and lmgs is absurd

 

Arms trafficking is a serious problem in Russia. You don't have to be in the military to receive "military" weapons as most of them are standard rifles with tacky rails and optics. Besides, anyone worth their salt already knows that nothing beats a nugget.

[SalamanderAnder (DayZ) 1747]

not to mention there are literally dozens of manufacturers building ARs both in the US and around the world. Turkey, China, even Iran build and export ARs around the world.

 

Yes indeed. Also, some asshat in Austin has been manufacturing 3d printed plastic lower receivers for m4's and releasing the plans publicly online. Reproducing any gun is actually quite simple, if you know the basics of fabrication.

[mrscratch 20]

some asshat in Austin has been manufacturing 3d printed plastic lower receivers for m4's and releasing the plans publicly online. 

It's to stop our countries joke politic system. People were pushing for an all out ban on 3D printers to stop people from creating "undetectable plastic murder tools". By going full on public with all the different types of plastic crap (yes, crap) people seen from CAD the public becomes more aware that it is not as easy as clicking some link and hitting the print button on a magical device. Had this not happen then most of the world would believe whatever web you spin in terms of 3D printed parts which helps stop ignorance. Never underestimate the power of ignorance when dealing with politics.

[mercules 1290]

There are also a ton of AR15 and M4 knockoffs in production and parts for them being produced. It's a popular rifle around the world. 

[blitz 64]

There shouldnt be a ton of military grade weapons in the game, the standalone is a zombie survial game not a military sim like arma was. >90% of the population isn't going to know how to fire accuratly a military grade sniper rifle at more than a few hundred yards. That was one of the biggest turn offs for most people, the fact that the mod devolved mostly into a massive TDM. I wouldn't care if they added some bolt action rifles or something but people calling for .50 cal anti material rifles etc and lmgs is absurd

 

Although I can agree with you, there is a lot of military camps and check points around the map, so you would imagine you would find some abandoned military gear.

 

I just find it weird that I seem to find more American military gear than Russian, and the only Russian rifle is one from the 19th century o.O

Edited December 18, 2013 by -seraphine-

[rayker 2]

I just wish there was a way to load the 7.62 20-round magazines I have been finding into the Mosin.

that's not a magazine that is a package, mosin has internal 5rnd magazine not removable.

[christoffer@augdahl.no 0]

I just wish there was a way to load the 7.62 20-round magazines I have been finding into the Mosin.

Just split them :)

[gibonez 3633]

There are models and files for the following firearms:

 

 

FNX-45

IZH-43

IZH-43 (sawn off)

AK-74

M4

Ruger 10/22

Mosin 91/30

SKS

 

 

but not all of them appear to be configured yet.

 

 

The weapon lists are sounding amazing. I honestly hope the m4 is the highest end gun we get maybe rpg7s but thats it.

Along with those civilian weapons I would love to see more popular civi weapons.

 

Glock 19

m1911

M&p

Savage hog hunter .223

Remington 700

Cz 527 in 7.62x39

Savage mark II 22.lr

ruger 22/45

remington 870s

Etc.

 

Hopefully there are mainly if not only civilian weapons.