[SA] Mark someone as a 'threat'

[Xianyu 820]

Just an idea I had to potentially reduce KOS and remove the whole issue of 'I'm not an asshole but I'm a bandit because I defend myself'.

 

Basically, it's a 'threat indication'. You can indicate someone that you're aiming at is a threat to you. So long as they are visible and have a weapon on their person.

 

Marking someone as a 'threat' could instantly make them killable without a loss of karma, or perhaps after a short period of time, say, five seconds. Or instantly, if the survivor is engaging you in combat.

 

When someone marks you as a threat, you get a notification in the chat window, something like 'X feels threatened by you' or something similar.

 

So basically, if you come across a regular survivor in a coastal town that was just shooting noobs, you can mark him as a threat to your person, and take him down without instantly turning into a bandit.

 

Yes, the system can be abused.

 

Some new spawn with a pistol, you with a rifle, mark him as a threat, kil him with impunity. Whatever. Nobody trusts anyone in DayZ anyway and people are going to be pricks no matter what you do to stop them.

 

But at least with a 'threat' system they have advance warning of the intent to kill from another survivor. A bandit will be business as usual, because they can just shoot you without the advance warning.

 

There could even be some finicky code in there to find people that abuse the system and mark everyone as a threat so they can kill them and remain a survivor. You'll catch 'innocent' people either way.

 

 

 

But if two survivors meet, and they have the ability to call someone as a threat and not lose karma by killing them, I think it more likely that they'll use that ability.

 

Oh, and probably once you mark someone as a threat, that person can kill you without losing karma either.

 

Maybe then the bandit differentiation will be somewhat useful since it won't dragnet everyone who is forced to defend themselves?

 

The 'realism' tangent can be explained away with 'I saw it in his eyes. He was gonna kill me'. Or 'I felt the hairs on the back of my neck stand up' or somesuch.

[Frytek 130]

It isnt bottlefield. Too much abuse. How can a machine tell if you see him proning in the grass, behind a bush or not. It should be kept simple.

[applejaxc 2500]

...the fuck?

 

Bandits would just mark everyone they were going to shoot so they'd never lose humanity.

[enforcer1975 1111]

Yay radioactive twinkies all over the place...

 

 

No thank you.

[Korsbaek 1778]

Yay radioactive twinkies all over the place...

 

 

Fucking Snowballs!

[Xianyu 820]

I never said they'd be marked on the GUI or the HUD. Christ you people are overreacting to something that doesn't even exist.

 

 

It isnt bottlefield. Too much abuse. How can a machine tell if you see him proning in the grass, behind a bush or not. It should be kept simple.

You'd have to be aiming directly at them for it to work. Which means you'd be able to see them pretty clearly, no? Unless you walked around, swinging your reticule everywhere hitting the button hoping for the text to pop up, at which point, BINGO! you got someone! And they now know that someone is around with the intent of killing and you, swinging your aim around like a fucking retard, don't actually know where they are.

 

 

...the fuck?

 

Bandits would just mark everyone they were going to shoot so they'd never lose humanity.

At which point the finicky coding would kick in and say hey, this person is abusing this system!

 

Not to mention he'd be giving all his targets a 5 second warning each time. Time they could use to hide/get to cover/shoot back.

[applejaxc 2500]

 

Not to mention he'd be giving all his targets a 5 second warning each time. Time they could use to hide/get to cover/shoot back.

 

So marking someone would warn them and make them invincible for five seconds to run and get cover..?

 

Regardless the idea is flawed. Good intentions, but how is this going to help the game? An OBVIOUS and extremely useful way to shoot people "with impunity" isn't that fun and I certainly don't think this belongs in DayZ.

[TIC 1050]

I think the best way to "mark" someone as a bandit is place a note on a wall in something similar to this..

 

[Statik (DayZ) 2695]

You stated yourself it's clearly abusable. Not to mention how immersion breaking it is.

I'm sorry, but this is just a horrible idea.

[Lady Kyrah 1110]

You might want to bump the "threat" thing to 24 or 48 hours to make it really worth anything.

[Dekkymane 145]

The cancer of bf3 is how you can press Q and spam it, now all of the enemy players are red doritos. Not a chance. :/

[Xianyu 820]

The cancer of bf3 is how you can press Q and spam it, now all of the enemy players are red doritos. Not a chance. :/

That's because they show as blips on your radar and you don't even have to have your crosshairs on your enemy.

 

Go to a server with nameplates on and try to aim at someone to find out where they're hiding. Good fucking luck.

 

If the option to mark them as a threat was part of the player context menu, it would be impossible to 'spam' it. Jesus christ, how did you even get the idea into your heads that it would be anything like BF3?

[Lady Kyrah 1110]

That's because they show as blips on your radar and you don't even have to have your crosshairs on your enemy.

 

Go to a server with nameplates on and try to aim at someone to find out where they're hiding. Good fucking luck.

 

If the option to mark them as a threat was part of the player context menu, it would be impossible to 'spam' it. Jesus christ, how did you even get the idea into your heads that it would be anything like BF3?

Because it was the best example he could find to support his dislike of the idea.

[Dagwood 680]

Reading the title, I had high hopes for this thread. Unfortunately it was a terrible idea and so I am going to hijack it with a much better idea with a similar concept. You're welcome.

Once you meet a player and interact with them in a friendly manor (or not) you can "mark" them as either friendly or hostile. This is to simulate how in real life, you would recognize a person's face or maybe posture and stride at a distance.

This feature also helps alleviate the need and problems associated with a humanity system. When you meet a player and he is friendly, you mark him as a friendly (or hero. W/e) and then when you see him hours later from a distance in a firefight or in need of help, you actually recognize him.

For this marking system to not be stealth/immersion breaking, the mark would need to be subtle (like a change in perceived facial expression and maybe the heartbeat indicator currently in the mod)

[enforcer1975 1111]

The guy who shoots others should have a 10m evil smilie hovering 100m above his head like some Evolution servers mark teamkillers........for the rest of the lif that avatar has.

[Wayze 549]

I think the best way to "mark" someone as a bandit is place a note on a wall in something similar to this..

 

Don't wonder if you end up being the one on this paper.