TIC 1050 Posted November 5, 2013 (edited) (Yes, I know the title is a typo. It's Ambiance. Not Ambience :( ) Hey guys, TIC here and I thought of something that could be great for the ambiance of a post apocalyptic environment for either day or night for the DayZ Standalone. Here's what I had in mind.. Rocket's Response: http://dayzmod.com/forum/index.php?/topic/151552-quick-status-update-for-week-8-november/?p=1516433 ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Fireflies/Fungi (For Ambiance/Gameplay purposes) Also known as "Lightning Bugs", it would be interesting to see in a big empty field full of vegetation in the nightlife of Chernarus. Here are the possibilities it could bring in the game. Enhances lighting for night time, could provide some visibility for survivors who do not have equipment like NVGs or a flashlight.Possibility of eating larvae that lies in plants or on the ground; won't fill hunger too much but always good protein ;)Could be captured in some type of glass jar to emit lighting around the survivor. Fireflies may die from lack of oxygen over time.Possibility of being used as fishing bait if they are dead.Fact: Some fireflies could be poisonous as a defensive mechanism called "reflex bleeding"; symptoms include numbing lips and constricting of the throat.Fact info: http://gnosticwarrior.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Firefly-light.gif Bio-luminescent Fungi Could be used for illumination to help navigate around the night without useful equipment.Some fungi could be proven poisonous.Possibility of attracting wild animals in the wilderness by it's source of light; making it easier to find for hunting. Shooting Stars/Jet Contrails/Fog (Relates to lighting/observation) Currently in the ARMA series, the stars have been the least worked on in my opinion. rocket2gunsRocket 106 pointsA high resolution texture, even at 4k, will not achieve the current fidelity of the stars. The current stars are actually generated at points using the real location of the star at the maps set lat/lon. So there is not really a skybox at night, just a swarm of vert's that generate what looks like a star. What we could probably work is making the stars look a bit better.(Source: Reddit. Click on the underline text to see the context/discussion) I don't really see a purpose of bulleting ideas since the only thing I could think of is that they'd be quite amazing to see while looking at the sky Contrail: Possibility of spotting one in an occasion in the sky. I only assumed if the whole world wasn't entirely infected with zombies. Fog:I am not sure if fog is confirmed for SA but this would be really nice to have. More Sounds During The Day/Night (For audio quality improvements) I have noticed that there isn't much sound during the night like there is in the day (birds chirping) .. How about we add some more sounds? Video Example: www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVelM6VjB7I Maybe in certain areas of the environment, would it be possible to make these sounds echo? (In example is being the woodpecker in the video) This could possibly bring tension while being cautious for zombies.Perhaps these animals should be included in the game for the sounds to have more of an effect?Depending on the environment; the sounds can mask your sounds against roaming zombies or players which can give you a chance to navigate safer at night without being hear.Winds blowing in the trees.Rain should sound different depending on the type of material it's hitting on (Tin roofs, tent, wood, etc) Auroras Definition: An aurora is a natural light display in the sky particularly in the high latitude (Arctic and Antarctic) regions, caused by the collision of energetic charged particles with atoms in the high altitude atmosphere (thermosphere). Video Example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oL5jHrKYqe4 Keep in mind that this would have to be a rare occurrence to happen. Nuclear Winter (Atomic Winter) Definition(Shared by Applejaxc): One major concern of a nuclear war for countries not hit my the weapons themselves is that all the dust, ash, and debris kicked up into the atmosphere would act not unlike a permanent "cloudy day," blocking most of the sun's rays and lowering the earth's temperature. IN all likelihood such an event wouldn't drop the global temperature very much, but it would definitely be a big enough concern if you're "downwind" (so to speak) from where bombs fell, able to make up for if not surpass light pollution in a developing nation like Chernarus. More Facts about Nuclear Winter: http://www.eoearth.org/view/article/154973/ ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ If you have any more ideas or any opinions you have, please share :) :beans: (This topic will be edited for further ideas, corrections and such.) Topic Glossary by TIC321(Will be edited for enhanced navigation)Chapter 1: Integrate DayZ Forum avatars, clans, chatroom. (3/5 rating)Chapter 2: Other methods of combat; non-lethal. (3/5 rating)Chapter 3: ★Ideas for Hunting/New Equipment. (5/5 rating)Chapter 4: More Cooperation Features (4/5 rating)Chapter 5: Improving movements; Additional Gestures (4/5 rating)Chapter 6: ★Possible new buildings; Serving better purpose (5/5 rating)Chapter 7: Audio/Music adjustments; creating an ear-joyable atmosphere.(Standalone) (1.5/5 rating)Chapter 8: Weight as a factor, ability to see items in vehicles. (3.5/5 rating)Chapter 9: Standalone Weather (4/5 rating)Chapter 10: Medical Ideas (4.5/5 rating)Chapter 11: Zombie Features (4/5 rating)Chapter 12: YOU ARE HERE→ Enhanced Ambience (4.5/5 rating) Edited November 25, 2013 by TIC321 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
applejaxc 2500 Posted November 5, 2013 Well... with the nuclear war in other countries... it's amazing we can see the night sky at all. No but in all seriousness, I'd like to see nights where the atmosphere is too thick with crap/sky is too muddled to be able to see the sky. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TIC 1050 Posted November 5, 2013 (edited) Well... with the nuclear war in other countries... it's amazing we can see the night sky at all. No but in all seriousness, I'd like to see nights where the atmosphere is too thick with crap/sky is too muddled to be able to see the sky. In consideration; with the lack of electricity and lights that are created from it to make light pollution, I believe we'd be able to see such things easier during the night and also encourages others to play during the night more. From my experience from the mod, not a lot of people play during the night anymore and I sometimes worry if the Standalone would have the same problem. Dynamic sky would be amazing in my opinion. Could you clarify by what you mean by "too thick with crap/sky is too muddled"? Edited November 5, 2013 by TIC321 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Conkykillz 791 Posted November 5, 2013 Good work Tick really good idea :beans: 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
applejaxc 2500 Posted November 5, 2013 -snip-Dynamic sky would be amazing in my opinion. Could you clarify by what you mean by "too thick with crap/sky is too muddled"? Ever heard of "Nuclear Winter" ? One major concern of a nuclear war for countries not hit my the weapons themselves is that all the dust, ash, and debris kicked up into the atmosphere would act not unlike a permanent "cloudy day," blocking most of the sun's rays and lowering the earth's temperature. IN all likelihood such an event wouldn't drop the global temperature very much, but it would definitely be a big enough concern if you're "downwind" (so to speak) from where bombs fell, able to make up for if not surpass light pollution in a developing nation like Chernarus. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TIC 1050 Posted November 5, 2013 Ever heard of "Nuclear Winter" ? One major concern of a nuclear war for countries not hit my the weapons themselves is that all the dust, ash, and debris kicked up into the atmosphere would act not unlike a permanent "cloudy day," blocking most of the sun's rays and lowering the earth's temperature. IN all likelihood such an event wouldn't drop the global temperature very much, but it would definitely be a big enough concern if you're "downwind" (so to speak) from where bombs fell, able to make up for if not surpass light pollution in a developing nation like Chernarus. If this were possible to be implemented, I'd like to see that. Would you mind if I could add this idea onto the topic? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
applejaxc 2500 Posted November 5, 2013 If this were possible to be implemented, I'd like to see that. Would you mind if I could add this idea onto the topic? You absolutely can, TIC. :) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TIC 1050 Posted November 5, 2013 You absolutely can, TIC. :) Added. In exchange for your contribution, you may have my beans. :beans: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
applejaxc 2500 Posted November 5, 2013 Added. In exchange for your contribution, you may have my beans. :beans: Hard work = food. Mmm... food... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TIC 1050 Posted November 6, 2013 Would anyone like to see dew appearing on grass? :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voddler (DayZ) 367 Posted November 6, 2013 Fantastic suggestion, immersion truly is important. I love the ambient sound for Chernarus in Arma 2, but having something like this during the night would be great. :thumbsup: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AP_Norris 1018 Posted November 6, 2013 Rookie mistake on the poll.I'd love a little to look at while sitting at the campfire. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
enforcer1975 1111 Posted November 6, 2013 In consideration; with the lack of electricity and lights that are created from it to make light pollution, I believe we'd be able to see such things easier during the night and also encourages others to play during the night more. From my experience from the mod, not a lot of people play during the night anymore and I sometimes worry if the Standalone would have the same problem. Dynamic sky would be amazing in my opinion. Could you clarify by what you mean by "too thick with crap/sky is too muddled"? Without lighting you would still see crap whats in front of you light pollution or not. No light no sight, even a full moon doesn't always help everything is still quite grey like it is in the game, if people would just turn off their room lighting they would probably see a bit more. OP has some good ideas, some mods already made some things possible. They should have a competition so players can have their content added to the game provided it's of similar or higher quality. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TIC 1050 Posted November 6, 2013 (edited) Without lighting you would still see crap whats in front of you light pollution or not. No light no sight, even a full moon doesn't always help everything is still quite grey like it is in the game, if people would just turn off their room lighting they would probably see a bit more. OP has some good ideas, some mods already made some things possible. They should have a competition so players can have their content added to the game provided it's of similar or higher quality. I have referred to using fireflies as a light source for times it gets dark. They'd really illuminate an area such as a field in which could be captured in a glass jar by using a net or some other tool :) Edit: If you click on a red highlighted title on the topic, it'll show you a picture as a representation of the idea I am referring to for a better illustration. Edited November 6, 2013 by TIC321 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
enforcer1975 1111 Posted November 7, 2013 I wonder how many million you need to actually have an effect since a candle is already a hundredfold brighter than one bug and it still isn't enough to see further than a couple of meters, now imagine jar filled with bugs with only the ones on the edge of the glass beeing usable since the others are hidden behind them. I'm sure it would make you a fine target like people running around with chem sticks ( without lighting up the area ). Mostly impractical imo. About auroras as a light source.....a lightning is much brighter although significantly shorter but Chernarus isn't far enough in the northern region anyway.I do like the ideas like weather and payload for vehicles. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TIC 1050 Posted November 9, 2013 I wonder how many million you need to actually have an effect since a candle is already a hundredfold brighter than one bug and it still isn't enough to see further than a couple of meters, now imagine jar filled with bugs with only the ones on the edge of the glass beeing usable since the others are hidden behind them. I'm sure it would make you a fine target like people running around with chem sticks ( without lighting up the area ). Mostly impractical imo. About auroras as a light source.....a lightning is much brighter although significantly shorter but Chernarus isn't far enough in the northern region anyway.I do like the ideas like weather and payload for vehicles. You have some very good points :) For my point of view, I see the fireflies being more of a desperate opportunity for some light source as I can predict it will be pretty dark without a full moon which is what fireflies seem to like to come around at that time. Lightning is currently in DayZ which lights up quickly at night. This effect is just a white flash but can prove helpful in finding your direction where you are heading to. I think the lighting effect of them being in a jar is only good for lighting up one area as something luminescent. Over time, like a fireplace, the fireflies would die under the circumstances of no oxygen being available then this would give you an opportunity to use these bugs as fishing bait :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
enforcer1975 1111 Posted November 9, 2013 I know what you mean, you would try everything just to get some light into the darkness even if you have to burn up a couple of matches only to get light for a few seconds. I just noticed we are missing the basics here when i thought about the most simple light and heat source in game campfire >>> torches. There should be enough cloth ( dead zeds ) and fuel ( oil, gasoline or a mix iif you don't have the proper fuel? ) around to create some of them or even in my case when i didn't need the cone of light my flash light made i just removed the cap and used it as a makeshift torch. You might want to add it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TIC 1050 Posted November 25, 2013 I'd also like to add onto this is something called Foxfire fungus. There are a lot of bioluminescent fungi and I believe this could be useful to navigate around throughout the night and it does look awesome other than that :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DMentMan 707 Posted November 26, 2013 hmm, seems like good stuff Share this post Link to post Share on other sites