Make grass render further

[iiTzzGermany 6]

Right now ghillie suits are kind of useless in fields and even in some forests. Grass does not render over 50 meters away from you so you can't hide in grass, and you end up looking like a fool because to someone who sees you, it appears you are in an open field with no grass. It also would be useful to prone in grass when you hear a vehicles coming towards you so you can let it pass instead of having to shoot it. I just think since the grass is 2 feet tall, why not be able to hide in it?

[burritoman259 593]

Are you referring to the mod or the upcoming SA?

[iiTzzGermany 6]

I'm referring to the standalone because I know they are focusing more on that right now.

[enforcer1975 1111]

Hiding on the forest floor with a ghillie is pretty stupid anyway. That kind of gear only works in certain places. It's not an all-in-one-wonder.

[dulix11 731]

So that will mean people with low-end computers will now have to struggle with bad frame rates because of the grass?

[AP_Norris 1017]

So that will mean people with low-end computers will now have to struggle with bad frame rates because of the grass?

What's wrong with ur specs.

They could probably have varying lod for the grass.

[SaveMeJebus 164]

People with low-end computers should EXPECT to struggle with frame rates playing anything .... especially arma.  They should quit crying about it and buy a new pc, or go buy a console.

[Tumoa 359]

People with low-end computers should EXPECT to struggle with frame rates playing anything .... especially arma.  They should quit crying about it and buy a new pc, or go buy a console.

*facepalm* so devs should make it unoptimized mess like arma 2. no just no it should be work with modern low end computer with low settings or else you have shitty product in your hands

Edited October 25, 2013 by Tumoa

[SaveMeJebus 164]

No I never said anything about them producing an "unoptimized mess" nothing says it couldn't run just fine and have grass that renders the same for all.  I'm just saying playing on a "low end" computer and then bitching about framerates is ignorant.

[dulix11 731]

What's wrong with ur specs.

They could probably have varying lod for the grass.

 

Nothing is wrong with my computer, I run everything on very high (aa off of course), and view distance on default and get around 40 - 50 fps.

 

 

People with low-end computers should EXPECT to struggle with frame rates playing anything .... especially arma.  They should quit crying about it and buy a new pc, or go buy a console.

 

No. What you are saying is 'play on very high or gtfo'. Not gonna happen, alot of people don't have the money to buy a computer that will do that.

 

Having grass render at higher distances will probably have an effect on everyones computer.

[Tumoa 359]

No I never said anything about them producing an "unoptimized mess" nothing says it couldn't run just fine and have grass that renders the same for all.  I'm just saying playing on a "low end" computer and then bitching about framerates is ignorant.

okay that i agree with be more specific next time

[SaveMeJebus 164]

I am not saying that at all dulix ... altho I do think some options should be locked (even if they effect performance) if they can be used to gain an unfair advantage.  What you're effectively saying is play on low or gtfo because I can't see any of the grass you are hiding in.

Edited October 25, 2013 by SaveMeJebus

[dulix11 731]

I am not saying that at all dulix ... altho I do think some options should be locked (even if they effect performance) if they can be used to gain an unfair advantage.  What you're effectively saying is play on low or gtfo because I can't see any of the grass you are hiding in.

 

Again, that is pretty much 'play like me or gtfo'.

[SaveMeJebus 164]

How is making sure the playing field is level "play like me or gtfo"? ... whats the point of even having a high graphics setting if it puts people at a huge disadvantage?  Anyhow this is gotten off track from OP whom I do agree with. If you see your character crawling thru a field of grass as you try to sneak up on someone others should be seeing the same thing or wtf is the point?  Enough arguing with you

 

 

**btw to be clear here I'm not saying that everyone should have to run the game on max settings all the time.  Turn off AA, turn down model detail, who cares. 

Edited October 25, 2013 by SaveMeJebus

[enforcer1975 1111]

No. What you are saying is 'play on very high or gtfo'. Not gonna happen, alot of people don't have the money to buy a computer that will do that.

Having grass render at higher distances will probably have an effect on everyones computer.

So you say fuck everyone and devs should stop developing games with good graphics because they can only afford 5yo hardware? I don't want the PC to end ip like the last gen consoles you know. People habe to adapt to todays technology and not the other way. People who think like that should GTFO imo. Edited October 25, 2013 by Enforcer

[Lady Kyrah 1109]

Grass is always an issue in games, main issue being that the render cost rise exponentially the further away you render it.

[dulix11 731]

How is making sure the playing field is level "play like me or gtfo"? ... whats the point of even having a high graphics setting if it puts people at a huge disadvantage?  Anyhow this is gotten off track from OP whom I do agree with. If you see your character crawling thru a field of grass as you try to sneak up on someone others should be seeing the same thing or wtf is the point?  Enough arguing with you

 

 

**btw to be clear here I'm not saying that everyone should have to run the game on max settings all the time.  Turn off AA, turn down model detail, who cares. 

 

'Leveling the playing field' means that someone is going to need a $1500 computer to run the game. You're being selfish.

 

I don't even think players show up if your view distance is set to low. They sort of 'melt' into the landscape.

[Tumoa 359]

'Leveling the playing field' means that someone is going to need a $1500 computer to run the game. You're being selfish.

 

I don't even think players show up if your view distance is set to low. They sort of 'melt' into the landscape.

you don't need 1500 dollar to get good high end pc you can get really good one with 600-800 dolars

[Karmaterror 982]

SA is a new game....sorta. So it should be more grapicly demanding that arma 2. You wouldn't expect to run BF4 if you were struggling to run BF3. Its the nature of games that grapics improve and hardware carnt keep up. That being said I have a 3 or 4 year old PC, that cost £350 (excluding grapics card because I already had one. I can force grass draw in configs to 1000m without issue, and that's running up to 150 AI.

 

My specs

 Phenom 2 x4 3.2ghz

 4gb DDR2 800mhz ram

 2GB GTS 450 eco

 Normal 250GB HDD

 

All dated tech, and not every setting on high...but most. And id guess that if I bought another £350 machine without a card now id be getting DDR3 ram and a much better processor. you don't have to spend loads to build a gaming rig.

 

So get the grass view distance up devs! and I really hope that the view distance itself is much hiher in SA. Jus look at those dev blogs where its clearly set to the full 10k....maybe more if they forcing it ;)

[Lady Kyrah 1109]

Just make grass a non adjustable setting really and set it's rendering distance to a reasonable value.

[Statik (DayZ) 2695]

How much of an issue would more 3D grass really be? Isn't everything suppose to be server side in SA? Rather than armas current client side.

[SalamanderAnder (DayZ) 1747]

Nobody's talking about 3d grass. Just forcing a common minimum render distance only for grass would be enough. However, if you are hiding in grass, you should be aware that it's not an invisibility cloak. Even in real life a ghillie suit would not hide you in short grass. I prefer to hide behind solid objects whenever possible.

[iiTzzGermany 6]

Nobody's talking about 3d grass. Just forcing a common minimum render distance only for grass would be enough. However, if you are hiding in grass, you should be aware that it's not an invisibility cloak. Even in real life a ghillie suit would not hide you in short grass. I prefer to hide behind solid objects whenever possible.

On Chernarus the grass is much higher than just regular grass, it sometimes even goes up to your chest. I heard in a planned features list that Rocket was asked this and said he would look into this seeing that the render distance for grass is only about 50 meters at the moment.

Edited October 25, 2013 by iiTzzGermany

[mercules 1290]

'Leveling the playing field' means that someone is going to need a $1500 computer to run the game. You're being selfish.

 

I don't even think players show up if your view distance is set to low. They sort of 'melt' into the landscape.

 

I don't want to know where you buy your computers at...  because the $500 dollar computer I bought 2-3 years ago plays this game fairly well on the highest settings. My $1,200 computer doesn't even stretch to play Arma II/DayZ on highest settings and that is a least a year old now. Trying to play games on a 4 year old $300 laptop is dumb and I see people trying to do that all the time and then complaining about the results.