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Suggestion/Question about Zombie pathing: Climbing/alternate routes

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The question goes out to thous who have played/plays the Pre-Alpha (Edit: Standalone, not the Mod).  Do zombies still climb up ladders?

 

Now on to the suggestion.  If they can still climb ladders I would suggest removing that ability from the zombies.  I would think they lost 'advanced' reasoning and logic skills, which would include the ability to use ladders.

For Example.  I'm running away from some zombies and see a large fuel tank with a ladder on the side, I run to it and climb up the ladder, zombies catch up and take a swipe at my legs, scratching them badly and causing them to bleed, I get up top and bandage my wounds and the zombies have no way to get up.  They'll know I'm still up there for a bit and remain in 'agro' mode, and stay there if they can still see/hear me, and attract other zombies thus trapping me if I don't have any ammo/guns.  However if I hide up there for a bit they'll slowly lose interest and wander off, leaving me free to climb back down (lets just say the whole thing takes about 15 mins from when I get to the ladder to when the zombies get far enough away for me to climb down safely).

I'm not suggesting that you could just climb on a ladder just out of their reach and wait for them to go away.

I would also suggest dumbing the zombies down (if they're smart enough) regarding alternate paths.

As an example I would use the Office Building (The one that people often mistake for a school).  There's a ladder on the corner of the building that goes up to the roof/balcony, but it's also accessible via stairs inside the building.  I get chased and run to the ladder, getting away.  If they zombies are 'smart' and can't climb the ladder's they'll run into the building, run up the stairs to my floor and to the roof.  If they were dumb I could climb up the ladder, they'll stay near the ladder, but won't run into the building.  If I go downstairs and make the mistake of running out the door next to the ladder or into their line of sight they'll see me again and restart the chase.

Just a suggestion/point of discussion.  I have almost no clue how zombie AI currently works in Standalone, nor what their plans are for the 'AI Revamp' as I would call it.

Edited by BigMike

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it's a bit i don't actually see one climb up..they used to do that in the past..however i found one on a deerstand so maybe they still can.

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If they can still climb ladders I would suggest removing that ability from the zombies.  I would think they lost 'advanced' reasoning and logic skills, which would include the ability to use ladders.

 

I don't think they have lost that much ability to find out how to climb a ladder. If they had lost that much they would not know how to stand up straight either. Maybe they won't actively search for a ladder if they see you on a roof top like they are doing it right now but if they follow you to a ladder and see you climbing up they might attempt to follow you and maybe fail at first or not even succeed at all.

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A ladder is nothing but a "much easier" climbing spot. They might not realise there is a ladder but if they do i see no reason to prevent them to use it if they can also climb reasonably.

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