firebear 11 Posted May 11, 2012 considering there is a problem with cheaters spawning gear on different servers, which is accessible by not only them but by other players too, perhaps putting more systems in place to prevent this would be wise?for example, warning/killing/kicking/banning players who have items that are not yet in the mod.you see things like this (this one is from reddit) http://imgur.com/a/vS8eY pop up every now and the on the internet, and it is quite a lot of BS that not only cheaters/griefers try to ruin the game, but other players let them by playing a long and actually looting and using the gear that is spawned through cheats. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MR DELICIOUS 297 Posted May 11, 2012 These guys were caught and nailed-ish. I believe they're deleting the whole cba_main thing that allows this to happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
firebear 11 Posted May 11, 2012 These guys were caught and nailed-ish. I believe they're deleting the whole cba_main thing that allows this to happen.yeah but plenty of guys seem to have looted these "chests", even if they didnt spawn them.whenever i find a rare weapon on someones corpse now i ask myself if i am a cheater by picking it up. q_qquestion, is m4a1 cco with holo and grenadelaunch legit? my friend found it on a bandit who attacked him, we're not sure if its an actual dayz weapon or not... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rocket 16567 Posted May 11, 2012 Hackers are receiving database level permabans when they are identified.1.5.7 has some new server and client side updates to identify hackers. They will be automatically banned at the database level, meaning their game will lockup when connecting to any server.To those who have emailed requesting clemency:Ban's are irrevocable when issuedYou do the crime, you do the time. Personally, hacking in a game like this is far worse than piracy. You are undermining the whole integrity of the project. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gobbins 2 Posted May 11, 2012 and all those guns still wont help you when a noob with lolwinchester sneaks behind you, great thing about this game Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tearran 2 Posted May 11, 2012 Hackers are receiving database level permabans when they are identified.1.5.7 has some new server and client side updates to identify hackers. They will be automatically banned at the database level' date=' meaning their game will lockup when connecting to any server.To those who have emailed requesting clemency:[b']Ban's are irrevocable when issuedYou do the crime, you do the time. Personally, hacking in a game like this is far worse than piracy. You are undermining the whole integrity of the project.Awesome, Just a question I noticed a lot of buggy or laggy things can happen on some servers.(known its an alpha not really an issue) Any-chance the game could mistake them for hacks? For instance I cannot connect to some servers with Certain CBAs enabled for some reason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mannemessemaker@gmail.com 0 Posted May 11, 2012 Ban's are irrevocable when issuedHopefully people who accidentally pick up "cheated" items from killed survivors won't be banned as well though. Otherwise there should be some kind of appeal system if there are going to be false positives like that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phisher34 12 Posted May 11, 2012 Hackers are receiving database level permabans when they are identified.1.5.7 has some new server and client side updates to identify hackers. They will be automatically banned at the database level' date=' meaning their game will lockup when connecting to any server.To those who have emailed requesting clemency:[b']Ban's are irrevocable when issuedYou do the crime, you do the time. Personally, hacking in a game like this is far worse than piracy. You are undermining the whole integrity of the project.Awesome.Exactly the way this be handled. Thank you! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rocket 16567 Posted May 11, 2012 Where there is doubt we wait for a trail of data. But it is extremely obvious who these people are. One person did it while I was participating in a live stream. His ban was issued more out of his unbelievable stupidity than due to the hack itself.He asked for the ban to be lifted. His request was denied. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sabre (DayZ) 4 Posted May 11, 2012 And that's why I like independent "developers" more. They actually deal with hackers and give them the proper treatment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SnR 16 Posted May 11, 2012 Would love to know why @CBA gets a mention from so many, who are only supposed to be joining with @Dayz ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gator (DayZ) 22 Posted May 11, 2012 Where there is doubt we wait for a trail of data. But it is extremely obvious who these people are. One person did it while I was participating in a live stream. His ban was issued more out of his unbelievable stupidity than due to the hack itself.He asked for the ban to be lifted. His request was denied.:heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart:I <3 U rocket. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-Legion-xHawk 4 Posted May 11, 2012 Where there is doubt we wait for a trail of data. But it is extremely obvious who these people are. One person did it while I was participating in a live stream. His ban was issued more out of his unbelievable stupidity than due to the hack itself.He asked for the ban to be lifted. His request was denied.So, in line with this, if a player is killed and has a weapon that's not in the mod yet and it's picked up and used, we're fine? Personally haven't had it happen to me, however a few people have found some of these weapons on players they killed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Malek (DayZ) 1 Posted May 11, 2012 xHawk' pid='15792' dateline='1336761641']So' date=' in line with this, if a player is killed and has a weapon that's not in the mod yet and it's picked up and used, we're fine? Personally haven't had it happen to me, however a few people have found some of these weapons on players they killed.[/quote']If your in doubt just dont use the weapon. I mean its pretty obvious.But either way I would imagine that these weapons that have been aquired by hacks will eventually be rendered useless by the lack of specific ammo spawns for them correct? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Swineflew 480 Posted May 11, 2012 xHawk' pid='15792' dateline='1336761641']So' date=' in line with this, if a player is killed and has a weapon that's not in the mod yet and it's picked up and used, we're fine? Personally haven't had it happen to me, however a few people have found some of these weapons on players they killed.[/quote']If your in doubt just dont use the weapon. I mean its pretty obvious.But either way I would imagine that these weapons that have been aquired by hacks will eventually be rendered useless by the lack of specific ammo spawns for them correct?Not everyone who plays knows every type of weapon drop in the game, so it's not as simple as "if it's not a normal weapon spawn, don't use it" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sadnick 0 Posted May 11, 2012 Also, there might have been cheaters who only spawned weapons that actually exist in DayZ. No way to tell wether it's legit or not for a player... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drakenof 9 Posted May 11, 2012 I'm so fucking mad right now, i must farm days after days, deaths after deaths, and meanwhile some fucking idiots are adding themselves tons of equipement. Mad.Mad is the word. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sadnick 0 Posted May 11, 2012 I'm so fucking mad right now' date=' i must farm days after days, deaths after deaths, and meanwhile some fucking idiots are adding themselves tons of equipement. Mad.Mad is the word.[/quote']Well at least you know you earned it yourself. And you won't get banned. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drakenof 9 Posted May 11, 2012 Yeah, well i'm still pissed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reklin 56 Posted May 11, 2012 I'm so fucking mad right now' date=' i must farm days after days, deaths after deaths, and meanwhile some fucking idiots are adding themselves tons of equipement. Mad.Mad is the word.[/quote']Who cares.Would I love to have a bunch of equipment like NVG's or a nice sniper and an uzi pistol? Yes.But half the fun is acquiring it. As soon as you start spawning yourself items, half the fun of the game is gnoe, because theres now no challenge.And once they've spawned themselves items, I expect it's REALLY hard to play legitly and enjoy it as much as they did before hand, because they've experienced the "click click click, M4, NVGs, Coyote backpack" and then they feel like time spent legitly acquiring gear is wasted.Basically they screw their ability to enjoy the game in the end. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-Legion-xHawk 4 Posted May 11, 2012 I'm so fucking mad right now' date=' i must farm days after days, deaths after deaths, and meanwhile some fucking idiots are adding themselves tons of equipement. Mad.Mad is the word.[/quote']Who cares.Would I love to have a bunch of equipment like NVG's or a nice sniper and an uzi pistol? Yes.But half the fun is acquiring it. As soon as you start spawning yourself items, half the fun of the game is gnoe, because theres now no challenge.And once they've spawned themselves items, I expect it's REALLY hard to play legitly and enjoy it as much as they did before hand, because they've experienced the "click click click, M4, NVGs, Coyote backpack" and then they feel like time spent legitly acquiring gear is wasted.Basically they screw their ability to enjoy the game in the end.Yep. I mean, I just got a M4A3 last night, the weapon I've been wanting the most, and now all I need is some NVGs to complete my kit, it's a drive to get them, and if I die in a firefight and lose my gear (like I have before) it still drives me to go out and get more. If it was as simple as click, click, click fully geared, there'd be no fun, as I don't get my jollies killing random people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nightshadow 7 Posted May 11, 2012 I think if a person has to hack to play a game then they do not need to be playing whats the fun in that. if this was real life those hacker would be the first to die off Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frag85 0 Posted May 11, 2012 Great job Rocket. Glad you have the knowledge you do about coding.And that's why I like independent "developers" more. They actually deal with hackers and give them the proper treatment.Because if the big time cash-cow developers started doing this, they wouldn't make any money, and you wouldn't have anyone to play with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lady Kyrah 1110 Posted May 11, 2012 Arma is a bit of a bad student when it comes to cheating, a lot of trust is given into the clients, in order to lessen the burden on the server.Example: if you play an MP missiong and are commanding a group of AI, it's your client that handle their artificial intelligence. Which gives interesting results when, for example, your server has Zeus AI installed and the not the client (and server doesn't enforce that mod) because then the AI you are commanding behave differently from the server's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
qla 0 Posted May 15, 2012 Found 4 cheaters @EU-13 server at around 3:30 (GMT + 3:00). Me and my buddies ambushed group of 3 bandits and 1 survivor, when we went to loot their corpses we noticed they all had identical gear, silenced m4 with reddot scope, 1 satchel charge, m1911 with ammo, blood packs, nv-goggles, some had range finders, gps.. etc.Some of them started trolling in the chat so i screencapped some of the chatter.Hoping from swift justice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites