SA Thought - Zed feeding and attack animations

[lord3n 33]

I have no idea how professionals create their animations, so im out of my lane here, but ....

in my opinion, and taking into consideration that the zeds are not even close to being done, i think that maybe some of the animations for attacks and feeding off a dead player are just a wee bit over exagerated? does anyone agree?

I was thinking maybe if when they were creating the attacks for instance, they could have the actor actually struggle with another person, just for the sake of authenticity, then maybe the attack animations can seem a bit more natural?

and for feeding from dead players, do the same thing with another person who is limp. maybe throw in a third person to pretend hes another zed feeding off the same body (for when multiple zeds are around the corpse) and have them lash out at each other for a second, like animals do over their pray.

animations like trying to twist off arms? legs? basically just go through an entire dismantling of the body. without tools. how would they do it? animations for tearing open the stomach, throat. feeding on arms, legs.basically tearing apart a human by hand. there are going to be unique animations tied with that. animations for maybe throwing a dead players gear out of the way.

im not saying they have to actually grab an arm, or throw a pack, but accurately recreating the motions for doing those things might turn out better if actually replicated.

thoughts?

Edited August 23, 2013 by Lord3n

[SoWeMeetAgain 100]

if you read the old devblogs, there is a video on how they do the animations, it is quite fun, somewhere here: http://dayzdev.tumblr.com/

http://dayzdev.tumblr.com/post/43706077699/this-week-the-format-is-a-bit-different-we-got

to be exact

[lord3n 33]

Ya know, it may sound crazy, but ....

when it comes to creating the animations for decaying zeds that have say a broken limb or broken arm (or part of body they cant use)

under a doctors supervision (i dont see why this wouldnt be safe, but im no doctor) how about the actor numb his leg, or his arm, and perform the animations under those circumstances. maybe bring out some authenticity that just can be duplicated without actually losing feeling in that limb.

one day numb his thigh, next day numb his calf. do walking and crawling both ways and see what comes of it. same for arms. crawling with an arm where you have use of your elbow will look different than with losing it at the shoulder. so recreating the situation under ideal circumstances seems like it would offer the best fruit from the tree so to speak.

i know its an "out there" idea, but im just thinking of ways to get the little details done right is all.

Edited August 23, 2013 by Lord3n

[IkaikaKekai 1957]

I highly doubt that a doctor would allow that.  "Hey Doc, can you come over and numb us up some actors, who have nothing wrong with them, with some Morphine so we can get some slightly more realistic zombie animations?"  The doctors that would agree to that are probably shady as fuck.  Most/all numbing drugs are controlled substances, meaning a doctor has to account for them, or its an illegal activity.  You think the network bubble is delaying a release?  Try a drug charge laid against Rocket or any of the other team members.

[lord3n 33]

I highly doubt that a doctor would allow that. "Hey Doc, can you come over and numb us up some actors, who have nothing wrong with them, with some Morphine so we can get some slightly more realistic zombie animations?" The doctors that would agree to that are probably shady as fuck. Most/all numbing drugs are controlled substances, meaning a doctor has to account for them, or its an illegal activity. You think the network bubble is delaying a release? Try a drug charge laid against Rocket or any of the other team members.

you are assuming that the dev team would NOT seek prior proper legal/medical advice regarding this. i just dont think they are that stupid. i wasnt suggesting they find a doctor in an ad while browsing a "Juggs" magazine. I am also not certain that Morphine is used for temporary, minor numbing effects. I am interested in hearing a response from someone that works in the medical field however.

or maybe some other ideas on how animations might be improved upon and made to be more authentic.

Edited August 23, 2013 by Lord3n

[harley001 315]

Its a alpha of a mod.  Nothing is finished.  Wait till standalone, the animations should be good looking.  (if they are not then complain away!)

 

Also I don't think struggling would work.  I am in favor of just having the zombies claw at you and feed on you when you die.  Maybe a death animation involving showing the zombie tackling you the ground and eating you! (can only happen on 1000 or less blood)

Edited August 26, 2013 by harley001

[IkaikaKekai 1957]

You miss the point.  It's not a simple mater of having a doctor and lawyer present after signing some waivers, it's simply illegal.  If there's nothing wrong with you they aren't supposed/allowed to prescribe medication.  That's how drug addictions start.  Yes, it does happen, but usually when they're found out they're arrested.  Why do you think there's a locked door and several walls between you and most of the pharmacy?

[lord3n 33]

You miss the point. It's not a simple mater of having a doctor and lawyer present after signing some waivers, it's simply illegal. If there's nothing wrong with you they aren't supposed/allowed to prescribe medication. That's how drug addictions start. Yes, it does happen, but usually when they're found out they're arrested. Why do you think there's a locked door and several walls between you and most of the pharmacy?

for medications that have addictive qualities im sure they arnt going to allow it. but i dont think numbing agents are as big a deal as your making it out to be. dentists use it like its going out of style. if there was a risk of negative effects when it comes to numbing effects, which as far as i know arnt addictive, arnt dangerous, etc, then i dont think medical professionals wouldnt be so liberal with it. a dentist will hit people up to 4 or more times if necessary for ONE tooth. if they dont get the right spot, they just try again. to me, that doesnt sound like something they would be doing if there was any risk of anything. thats why it would be great if anyone on here has experience and some actual first hand knowledge pertaining to this. right now, on both sides, its all speculation.

i think your lumping a numbing agent (which works in a concentrated area of the body) with every other drug out there. i could be wrong (not being sarcastic) but i think there is a difference between them.

Edited August 23, 2013 by Lord3n