Please improve 9mm damage.

[Mos1ey 6301]

Doesent the PMC driver skin have a 9mm bullet resistant vest? I think that's why, because in normal Arma 2, the PMC skins (known as survivor skin for dayz nubs) can reduce the damage of 9mm.

 

I'm pretty sure it's the increased blood level in DayZ and the fact that 9mm damage was nerfed a bit in an ArmA 2 beta patch. When I first started playing DayZ you could kill someone with a Makorov with one mag.

[wisper 61]

Part of training, had to get shot by walter 9 I think it was. Bulletproof vest with front plate, no breakfast, still puked my guts out. Half stress half shock I guess, my chest still sore 10 days later. They say, being wounded hurts more but less shock... wouldn't know about that.

Point being, u get shot, u don't turn arround and unload your clip on your target easy does it. U twitch, u squeel and if ur lucky u get a couple of rounds down the general direction.

Perhaps sa should implement shock damage instead of tweaking existing weapon damage. This would add "realism," while keeping the game more playable then real life.

[Skat3rat 1633]

I'm pretty sure it's the increased blood level in DayZ and the fact that 9mm damage was nerfed a bit in an ArmA 2 beta patch. When I first started playing DayZ you could kill someone with a Makorov with one mag.

 

Miss those days.  Even going up against guys with pistols could be scary.

[m.w. vindicator 880]

TBH I'd like to see the max. blood level dropped to about 8,000. I've always thought it was a little high in DayZ.

 

 

How many mL of blood does the average human have??   That should be the standard

[m.w. vindicator 880]

I like the idea.  However I think that your ideas about how fast someone dies, is a little too fast(Unless this is realistic).

 

 

The reason I made the bleed out times a little quicker is that I believe that people should be forced to play as walking corpses for too long.  

 

If you get shot in the leg, bleeding out in 25 mins seems reasonable if not bandaged.   

 

 

 

But what I am talking about is if you get shot in the lower chest/guts.  

 

A bullet through your stomach, liver, kidneys, and/or intestines could cause irreversible damage.  This damage could kill you over time.  IRL it might take someone days to succumb to their wounds.  But who wants to be  bed ridden in a game for days?  That is why I believe certain wounds should kill you faster than reallife.  

 

 

 

I am no expert though, this is just my idea.

[AP_Norris 1018]

How many mL of blood does the average human have??   That should be the standard

Yes, but realistically your not going to survive to the point you completely bleed out.

It should be to the point where there isn't enough blood to supply your brain properly.

[Skat3rat 1633]

The reason I made the bleed out times a little quicker is that I believe that people should be forced to play as walking corpses for too long.  

 

If you get shot in the leg, bleeding out in 25 mins seems reasonable if not bandaged.   

 

 

 

But what I am talking about is if you get shot in the lower chest/guts.  

 

A bullet through your stomach, liver, kidneys, and/or intestines could cause irreversible damage.  This damage could kill you over time.  IRL it might take someone days to succumb to their wounds.  But who wants to be  bed ridden in a game for days?  That is why I believe certain wounds should kill you faster than reallife.  

 

 

 

I am no expert though, this is just my idea.

 

I understand.  However sometimes it takes a while to get medical treatment in the mod and I figure it'll be the same in SA.  So maybe instead of dying to your wounds in a few minutes, maybe it could be a few hours.  That way you could have time for someone to patch you up.

[m.w. vindicator 880]

I understand.  However sometimes it takes a while to get medical treatment in the mod and I figure it'll be the same in SA.  So maybe instead of dying to your wounds in a few minutes, maybe it could be a few hours.  That way you could have time for someone to patch you up.

 

I agree but some people would rather die than play as a cripple for hours

[Mos1ey 6301]

How many mL of blood does the average human have??   That should be the standard

About 5,000, lol. Hmm...

Edited September 6, 2013 by mZLY

[AP_Norris 1018]

About 5,000, lol. Hmm...

That means 7.62 will almost kill in one shot :)

[m.w. vindicator 880]

About 5,000, lol. Hmm

 

 

So if you lose 3L of blood you would probably die. 

[AP_Norris 1018]

So if you lose 3L of blood you would probably die.

That's why I don't think we should stick with the blood system.

3L of blood lost death is realistic, but we shouldn't bleed as fast unless an artery is hit.

Bullet damage isn't gauged by bleeding, it is instant traumatic damage not how much blood you've lost, that's why chest shots are unrewarding currently when in reality a centre mass shot is what they go for.

[-Gews- 7443]

Hmmm...

 

What's the most important factor in real life? Shot placement.

What's the most important factor in DayZ? Caliber.

 

 

 

 

Yep, I see something wrong here...

[Statik (DayZ) 2695]

But then a 7.62 sniper will 1HK to the guts.

 

Well, a 7.62 sniper to the guts would probably kill you, unless you were immediately treated by medical professionals in the proper environment (you would probably have a fighting change).

[AP_Norris 1018]

Well, a 7.62 sniper to the guts would probably kill you, unless you were immediately treated by medical professionals in the proper environment (you would probably have a fighting change).

Yeah that's what I'm saying.

In a game where you can be knocked out and with word of advanced medicine... I don't want arcadey insta kills to non vitals.

[Frytek 130]

Pistols and ak 74 too small damage now. But as the advanced body damage system and advanced medical treatment are added to dayz SA, it should be good.

[m.w. vindicator 880]

Yeah that's what I'm saying.

In a game where you can be knocked out and with word of advanced medicine... I don't want arcadey insta kills to non vitals.

 

 

leg shots shouldn't be able to insta-kill.  

 

 

Ever.  

 

 

They can only cause death from bleeding (mild to catastrophic).  Even getting shot by a .50 cal in the knee shouldn't instakill.  Instead you should get your leg blown off and bleed out in 10-30 seconds while unconscious, but not an instakill :P  

[AP_Norris 1018]

leg shots shouldn't be able to insta-kill.  

 

 

Ever.  

 

 

They can only cause death from bleeding (mild to catastrophic).  Even getting shot by a .50 cal in the knee shouldn't instakill.  Instead you should get your leg blown off and bleed out in 10-30 seconds while unconscious, but not an instakill :P

Wooden legs?

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I look forward to seeing how shock and pain are implemented.

In terms of injury, they're just as important to the victim's physical state as the amount of blood they have left.

[Statik (DayZ) 2695]

Wooden legs?

What do you mean? A .50 would blow your leg off. Easily.

[Statik (DayZ) 2695]

leg shots shouldn't be able to insta-kill.  

 

 

Ever.  

 

 

They can only cause death from bleeding (mild to catastrophic).  Even getting shot by a .50 cal in the knee shouldn't instakill.  Instead you should get your leg blown off and bleed out in 10-30 seconds while unconscious, but not an instakill :P  

That's what SA should be, shooting different parts of the body should have different results. Such as the extremely expensive program militaries use (however I cannot remember the name)

[m.w. vindicator 880]

That's what SA should be, shooting different parts of the body should have different results. Such as the extremely expensive program militaries use (however I cannot remember the name)

 

 

VBS2 is what you are think i believe!

[Statik (DayZ) 2695]

VBS2 is what you are think i believe!

That is it!

[Wazza 274]

Wooden legs?

nice.. more crafting options.. 1 x lumber, 1 x scrap metal, 2 x toilet paper, 1 x shoe, 1 x eye patch, 1 x parrot

[AP_Norris 1018]

What do you mean? A .50 would blow your leg off. Easily.

Yeah, but if your friends can stop the bleeding, you should be able to craft prosthetics.