Hate People Who Shoot On Sight? Help Me Out Here!

[carbine781 (DayZ) 131]

1st, let me get something straight. I think bandits add a completely cool new aspect to the game that I enjoy. However, bandits have evolved over the year and a half DayZ has been out. Before, it was pretty rare for bandits to kill you. It was feared that you would get kidnapped or robbed by bandits. Today, its just shoot on sight, shoot on sight, shoot on sight. Also, there are people who snipe people for no apparent reason, just because its fun to hunt humans in a zombie apocalypse.

I support classic banditry, not shoot on sight for no reason.

So, thankfully, they are removing the AS50 and the M107 from DayZ. I think this will help a lot with the entire sniper situation. However, this won't fix the entire issue: People will still shoot on sight. Therefore, there should be a punishment TOWARDS the victim. What i mean by a punishment is a more severe permanent death.

You may be asking Why punish the victim? Well, it will make people think twice about their actions. Yes, there will be a few just evil people out there who want to be the kings of the apocalypse and kill everybody, but I feel that having a more severe permanent death will really help.

Now, what are your ideas? All ideas that i read that i think are creative i will post under this line. Thanks for reading!

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[BEASTWolverine 16]

I feel like your post is more of a rant than you asking for help. Here is how i see it. It's a multiplayer experience in an apocalyptic wasteland. There are many ways to get killed and many ways to die. As long as the server is hacker free i couldn't care if everyone was bandits. When i play if your not in my voice comms channel you are my enemy. This is because after helping several strangers in the game there was only a very small select few who didn't cap me in the back of the head when it was most opportune for them. It's easier to take out a target from afar when wanting to move into an area. Also by doing so you can tell when the target locations empty because the zombs will despawn once you have emptied the town. If someone is weaponless i let them go. The thing about this game though is you have no clue who has what agenda but the one thing i can tell you is when you get good at this game bandits are fun to play with. It gives ya something to do in the end game when your geared to the teeth... Kill bandits... =p Just keep on getting better and deal with the bandits that's part of dayz m8. -J*

[BEASTWolverine 16]

go play an empty server for a few hours you won't like it...

On the contrary you can join a roleplay no pvp server

http://dayzmod.com/forum/index.php?/topic/138920-tired-of-being-shot-in-the-face-tired-of-hackers-want-roleplay/#entry1361296

Edited June 11, 2013 by BEASTWolverine

[carbine781 (DayZ) 131]

I feel like your post is more of a rant than you asking for help. Here is how i see it. It's a multiplayer experience in an apocalyptic wasteland. There are many ways to get killed and many ways to die. As long as the server is hacker free i couldn't care if everyone was bandits. When i play if your not in my voice comms channel you are my enemy. This is because after helping several strangers in the game there was only a very small select few who didn't cap me in the back of the head when it was most opportune for them. It's easier to take out a target from afar when wanting to move into an area. Also by doing so you can tell when the target locations empty because the zombs will despawn once you have emptied the town. If someone is weaponless i let them go. The thing about this game though is you have no clue who has what agenda but the one thing i can tell you is when you get good at this game bandits are fun to play with. It gives ya something to do in the end game when your geared to the teeth... Kill bandits... =p Just keep on getting better and deal with the bandits that's part of dayz m8. -J*

You do bring a vary valid point. The one thing I don't like about shoot on sight bandits is that its very unrealistic at times. IF you were in a zombie apocalypse, unless you were some random fanatic, you wouldn't want to kill everybody. That is just what I think though. Atleast 50 cal. snipers should be gone soon, so I think i can enjoy the game a lot more. I do enjoy being an actual bandit at time, but I don't believe it should be just shoot on sight unless the person is just an absolute threat.

[Sutinen 635]

If people shoot you on sight, you either go too fast or run trough an open field saying "friendly, friendly"

For example, if someone is in a building, do not rush in and don't point your gun at him. You might want to think of your body language if you want to team up with someone.

But if you have done all this and you get shot no matter what, just go solo and be aware of your surroundings, so you wont get spotted.

[dulix11 731]

I met a friendly guy once, he was standing 3ft away from me and my heart rate was at 1 million beats a second, but then he was friendly and we teamed up, then he died, then I died, and it was fun.

[mat9813004 8]

Your solution is to punish the victim? Seriously? Are you simply trolling? The harm aspect is what makes banditry meaningful, every DayZ character has had to go through a survival experience and thus dying due to a bandit is a somewhat unpleasant experience, people who have survived for dayz, weeks with with their character get depressed. And bandits loove that.

The game mechanic could possibly make banditry a more extreme source, based on humanity and access to community resources. Then again, if I see a bandit, I will shoot on sight now. If I see a player with normal gear I will try to hold off, but I have shot out of fear once.. Its part of the process

[trichome (DayZ) 198]

OP all I'm seeing here is one big whine about getting killed.

I'm no bandit but I'd kill you on sight if your not part of my group, don't care what you have if your not part of the group then your a threat and you die. I don't play DayZ to make friends I play DayZ with my friends.

[mr_chabowski@live.co.uk 2416]

KoS definitely used to be less common, but It would be an exaggeration to say it was ever at a stage when bandits didn't kill folks.

Greater penalties for dying would only deter folks from taking risks or initiating combat very slightly, because getting from "fresh-spawn" to "end-game" is so easy in the mod.

To change KoS behaviour you'd have to change the common perception of the value of your character's life. I just can't see that happening until the SA gives us a fresh look at things.

The fact that a lot of folks have become xenophobic cowards is sad, but it's not the end of the world. It just means you have to play smarter.

[trichome (DayZ) 198]

Chab I don't see anything changing for the SA. I'll still be with my group, we'll work together to get weapons, resources and all the rest and we'll continue to kill anybody we come across who is not part of the group.

You can call that xenophobic all you like it's the way we play the game and have always played the game right from when the mod started out.

[bogroll 35]

KoS - lol. Any other player out there is a threat. When you see the presence of another player, whether visually, or spawned in zombies, or hearing gunshots in the distance you damn well go to high alert. Why? Because they are a threat to you (and your group). You either drop that player or evade.

In some rare situations you may well NOT choose to kill another player, and vice versa. Those interactions are what makes this game so special. Note the word 'rare', but they do happen and are truly memorable.

Edited June 11, 2013 by SAL_iOGC

[bloodiedsimper 16]

Here is my take on this suggestion :

http://dayzmod.com/forum/index.php?/topic/139090-suggestion-simulation-game-mode/

[Quartermaine 34]

I support classic banditry, not shoot on sight for no reason.

So, thankfully, they are removing the AS50 and the M107 from DayZ. I think this will help a lot with the entire sniper situation. However, this won't fix the entire issue: People will still shoot on sight. Therefore, there should be a punishment TOWARDS the victim. What i mean by a punishment is a more severe permanent death.

Removing sniper rifles will do nothing, I've yet to have an engagement over 300m.

Punishing victims will only encourage me to act out of self preservation (i.e. trust no-one). I see no way that a permadeath option would decrease kos. The same goes for the other (at least) two threads on the same subject.

[methr1k2dop3 323]

just stay the hell away from everybody.

if i was you play on low pop vanilla servers.

if you play on servers with 50 people logged on and barracks everywhere you are gonna have a bad time with KOS people.

i think the sweet spot is 15-20 people .

i really just encounter people at major hotspots in Chernarus. airfields, coastal cities, ect..

my advice is to not even mess around with bambis if you are trying to be a hero.

really no point,

they don't have anything and usually will shoot you to get your precious gear.

i respect bandits.

however i spit on COD kids killing me for the thrill.

usually spend my time hunting them down.

usually they're all over side chat raging or acting cocky giving away their position .

Edited June 12, 2013 by methr1k2dop3

[BEASTWolverine 16]

Another point that crossed my mind... Without bandits the game gets quite boring fast... Think about it, What do you and your friends do in the game? You work together to survive... You help each other gear up and get transportation... You watch each others backs... If it wasn't for the bandits the danger of zombies wouldn't be enough to even warrant team work... There wouldn't be any reason to gear up... All hero's should love bandits because it gives them purpose in the game... All survivors should look at hero vs banditry a good balance to the game... I myself like to play with friends versus other teams and friends that's what i love about dayz. Im not a bandit but getting a kill is quite rewarding it's a sense of accomplishment and you can take the loots... As far as realism goes... If you think bandits wouldn't exist in the apocalypse as often as in dayz refer to the LA riots back in the day... Within the first 3 days people were already resorting to cannibalization... Within the first day everyone was robbing everyone... In a zombie apocalypse there would be quite a bit of competition versus the other survivors in a real world situation... Let's just be thankful that in dayz the loot is infinite because in real life the loot would be gone fast resorting to worse things than banditry... Think about what dayz would be like if everyone worked together... I personally think it would get quite boring...

[Jeebuzz 0]

Something me and my friends talk about all the time! How can they do it ... when killing someone grants so much.... Knowing that person looted and lost it all (trolls) Knowing that u can go up and see exactly what this persons been doing while alive gain loot you might not have been able to accuire alone. But what if it was possible to incompasitate someone... Take the loot let them watch while they take everything from you... not know what they will do after the loots taken. How bout tranq darts? maybe a stun gun with a short range? mele combat where they get knocked out for awhile before they die ... Stealth attacks if ur caught from behind that leaves to chokeing them till they pass out? This might help the entire shoot on site to incompasitate people on sight. U still get ur loot take everything from the person(trolls) kill them after if u like but gives them a chance to survive.

[enforcer1975 1111]

KoS - lol. Any other player out there is a threat. When you see the presence of another player, whether visually, or spawned in zombies, or hearing gunshots in the distance you damn well go to high alert. Why? Because they are a threat to you (and your group). You either drop that player or evade.

In some rare situations you may well NOT choose to kill another player, and vice versa. Those interactions are what makes this game so special. Note the word 'rare', but they do happen and are truly memorable.

Oh yes... *bam* *bam* ( faint gunshots 2km away ), you think: "hm it could be a threat to me..let me get closer and take a look".... or was it more like:"oh a potential victim...that idiot was stupid enough to alert othersto his presence and i need to boost my ego so why not walk 2km to his position, it's not that far..."