The Armsel Striker!

[LancerG2 369]

Now a very unique shotgun gets implemented into DayZ. Not the SPAS - 12, Or the AA-12, but a very unique shotgun, one that functions like a revolver. The mighty Armsel Striker!

(I honestly couldn't find many videos but I had to compensate with these "Gun Pr0n videos".)

The Armsel Striker was created in Rhodesia by Hilton Walker in 1983. Walker moved to South Africa, bringing with him the design for the Striker shotgun. His shotgun became a success, and was exported to various parts of the world. Even though it was successful, the shotgun still had its flaws. The rotary cylinder-type magazine was bulky, had a slow reload time, and the basic action was not without certain flaws. The gun fires in a Semi-Automatic action and holds 12 gauge rounds in it's 12 drum capacity. - Wikipedia.

Basically the gun would be a rare spawn in DayZ. The gun would do a fair bit of damage considering it's a shotgun and It can use other shotgun ammo but it has it's unique 12 round magazine.

Upsides:

- High ammo capacity

- High damage

- Reduced recoil due to slower firing rate compared to the M1014

- More compact compared to M1040 shotgun (Great for Indoors)

Flaws:

- Sluggish reload

- Rare

- Slightly Slower firing rate

In conclusion this would be a shotgun that could be tried to be implamented because the AA-12 and saiga 12 are mainstream.

Edited June 8, 2013 by LancerG2

[methr1k2dop3 323]

they took 50 cals out.

i think the message behind that was they don't want any OP military type weapons in the game.

nice to see a shotgun tho that is actually worth using.

[Sutinen 635]

Even if they did take the .50 cals out, the shotguns seriously need some buffs. The slugs need to either instant kill you or knock you out at close ranges. 12 gauge slug is .730

I'm waiting for gews to post a more professional post :D

Edited June 8, 2013 by Sutinen

[methr1k2dop3 323]

Even if they did take the .50 cals out, the shotguns seriously need some buffs. The slugs need to either instant kill you or knock you out at close ranges. 12 gauge slug is .730

I'm waiting for gews to post a more professional post :D

basically what i said....

this would do the same amount of damage as any shotgun....

i don't see how a slower firing rate would be a flaw. as in the shotty in video would have increased firing rate than current pump action shottys

if anything should have a faster firing rate. semi automatic.

only upside is faster shooting and higher round capacity.

downside is less accuracy and slower reloads. a lot slower

a shotgun is a shotgun.

what matters is what kinda load you have in it.

this would have horrid accuracy and range but be able to pump out rounds a lot faster

a pump would have increased accuracy and ranged on a count of a longer barrel.

shotguns aren't viable against people. ( but still extremely deadly at close range,but so is any gun)

they are made for hunting.

only reason police and military use them is to avoid civilian casualties. a shotgun round is only gonna go as far a wall lets it.

but a rifle round will pierce dry wall like paper

so best option is a shotgun if you have to raid a apartment or a heavily populated area

Edited June 8, 2013 by methr1k2dop3

[Draco122 412]

In terms of Shotguns I'd much rather see a Saiga 12 than an Armsel Striker, doesn't necessarily mean I'd not want a Striker just that it seems a little out of place for DayZ

[methr1k2dop3 323]

In terms of Shotguns I'd much rather see a Saiga 12 than an Armsel Striker, doesn't necessarily mean I'd not want a Striker just that it seems a little out of place for DayZ

well in current mod i feel like close quarter combat isn't responsive like it should be.

fix that and we will have our precious shotguns!

[harley001 315]

I think i saw that in S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Personally I do think dayz needs more shotguns. All of the current ones feel the same.

[-Gews- 7443]

The Protecta/Stryker/Streetsweepers are interesting shotguns, however I don't think they belong in vanilla DayZ... for some reason I doubt these would be common (or even uncommon) in a place like Chernarus.

There needs to be some kind of revamp of the existing shotguns, however... they're all bullshit. Slug damage is ridiculously low, pellet spread is ridiculously high. Why would anyone choose them? And that's not all...

Why does the Benelli take 0.5 seconds to chamber a new round!? These things fire as fast as you can pull the trigger. The double barrel takes even longer just to pull the trigger a second time! The Saiga 12 has these same problems and more (makes 7.62 sniper sound, what's with that?) and in addition, it, the only Eastern shotgun, isn't even in DayZ... This kind of stuff can be very easily fixed, so I hope the devs look at this.

Personally I would consider removing the Benelli and 870 as well. At the very least I'd change the name from "M1014" to "Benelli"... most of the shotguns also have pretty terrible sights, in my opinion, I'd look at changing that.

Anyways if new shotguns were to be added, I'd want something Eastern. Baikal and Tula come to mind. For example, the TOZ-106 is an interesting design and at least somewhat popular:

Although being bolt-action and with a 2-round magazine as standard, the question then becomes: what's the point? Where does it fit in?

This is another reason I'd like to see a weight/stamina system added. Give each weapon a weight, and have a script which means the player has to eat and drink more or less often, depending on how much weight he's carrying.

Anyways as for other weapons, there are a bunch of fairly normal pump / SS / OU / semi-automatic shotguns produced in these Eastern European countries and in pretty much every other country in the area, I don't see the point in having a Remington 870, etc, when you could have something nearly identical, but "native".

One shotgun I looked at making a model of was the KS-23, just because it's so massive... a 23mm shotgun! Holy crap! I've always thought it was an interesting gun, and I had looked for ballistic info to no avail.

The ammo also has really cool names... Shrapnel-10, Shrapnel-25, the "Barrikada" solid slug...

It's gotta be monstrously powerful, right?

Well, short answer, no... I was disappointed to learn the "Shrapnel-10" has fourteen 0-size pellets... the Shrapnel-25 only has nine 00-size pellets.

Nine pellets of 00 buck! The exact same as the standard 12-gauge... massive let-down. A 12-gauge magnum or a 10-gauge loaded with 15 or 18 pellets of 00 spanks the KS-23's huge-sounding 23x75mm...

So, the slug... well, it turns out it's a steel sabot slug. Caliber is .50 or under... from looking at it, knowing it's solid steel, I'd estimate the weight to be in the 440-480 grain region... your standard 12-gauge slug is about 1 oz (that's 438 grains) it's soft, it's 0.72 caliber, and it's frequently moving fast. It's gonna create a worse wound than the solid steel "Barrikada"... although I guess solid steel is the obvious choice for ruining car engines...

I must say, I'm a little disappointed in the KS-23... and it only has a 3-round magazine to boot. In fairness, it seems it was designed mainly for use in various crowd control situations. Most of the KS-23's ammunition is either rubber balls or irritant gas grenades. It is a true riot shotgun - it was supposed to be nonlethal (although there were directions not to fire certain types of projectiles directly at people).

When you introduce something like the KS-23 into a game, there are certain expectations. If you give it the same damage as a standard 12-gauge shotgun, people are going to be disappointed. If you give it loads more damage, you're playing Hollywood, almost lying to people in my view, and giving them what I consider false information...

So it's best to leave it out altogether.

What the hell? I don't even know where I'm going with this. Gews out.