Cap'n (DayZ) 1827 Posted May 30, 2013 Well, I was rumbling about the dark corners of youtube because my usual server has gone offline. While waiting to get whitelisted, I looked at some benchmarks of A2 on older GPU's(GTX 280, 285, 295, 4870x2, 5870). I came across two videos. The first one was of someone playing ArmA 2 on Ubuntu, and I was mystified. I then came across another video of someone giving a tutorial on how to run Windows games in Linux, using this program called "Wine"(haven't finished video yet, not 100% shure how it works). I have a friend who has a desktop running Linux and he's pretty limited to what he can play. Now, he can play the mod once I send him the link to the video via email. And another thing, this might address the problem with Valves "steambox". Since the Steam OS would be based off of Linux, why not embed the Wine program into the OS to make it compatible with Windows games or some other kind of programming magic because I'm clueless about this. And, this could mean that DayZ Standalone would come to the Steam Box and Dean/Bohemia and their somewhat kind of maybe I'm not really sure friends at Valve could both make a ginormous profit because they could pump out an entire market campaign dedicated to the fact that you could have a console that runs DayZ. Thoughts please. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leviski 2152 Posted May 30, 2013 somewhat old/common information to me anywaysWine is a Linux "flavor" if you didn't already know that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GOD™ 2795 Posted May 30, 2013 (edited) What's a sout? :rolleyes:EDIT: OT: Nice. Edited May 30, 2013 by GOD™ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fluxley 2228 Posted May 30, 2013 Wine is good, Dont know the technical details but its basically translates windows programs so they run on linux, but it doesnt work for all games currently, last time i checked people were working with valve on a project that works off the same principle aiming to get as many games working as possible.somewhat old/common information to me anywaysWine is a Linux "flavor" if you didn't already know thatIf by flavor you mean Distro then thats not right, its a program that runs on linux. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cap'n (DayZ) 1827 Posted May 30, 2013 What's a sout? :rolleyes:EDIT: OT: Nice.Typo :( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cap'n (DayZ) 1827 Posted May 30, 2013 Wine is good, Dont know the technical details but its basically translates windows programs so they run on linux, but it doesnt work for all games currently, last time i checked people were working with valve on a project that works off the same principle aiming to get as many games working as possible.If by flavor you mean Distro then thats not right, its a program that runs on linux.Well good. I'd refuse to buy the Steambox if Valve decided to troll us and make it only play Linux games. I do hope they accomplish that well, and bring the entire Steam library over to the Steambox. Then it would be the greatest console ever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cap'n (DayZ) 1827 Posted May 30, 2013 As it turns out, Nvidia drivers don't work out too well with Linux so unless you've got a decent AMD card you'll get numerous graphical errors. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cap'n (DayZ) 1827 Posted May 30, 2013 (edited) ArmA 2 in Linux Edited May 30, 2013 by Cap'n 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fluxley 2228 Posted May 30, 2013 I believe thats exactly what they have planned, its just going to take a bit of time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cap'n (DayZ) 1827 Posted May 30, 2013 DayZ in Linux! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fluxley 2228 Posted May 30, 2013 Frame rates a bit poor on that second vid, wonder what the systems specs were.might give this a go tomorrow, just for something to do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cap'n (DayZ) 1827 Posted May 30, 2013 Frame rates a bit poor on that second vid, wonder what the systems specs were.might give this a go tomorrow, just for something to do.A lot of people play DayZ with pretty poor PC's, but it may just be driver issues. Still, this could mean quite a bit of potential for the Steam Box and bringing DayZ to the consumer market(a lot of people act like DayZ is still "unknown"). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fluxley 2228 Posted May 30, 2013 Plus it was Origins, last time i tried it my frame rate was piss poor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cap'n (DayZ) 1827 Posted May 30, 2013 Plus it was Origins, last time i tried it my frame rate was piss poor.Origins has a bunch stuff that isn't in Vanilla, and A LOT more textures/modules that aren't optimized well. Origins isn't my taste anyways, I'd much rather play vanilla. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kevsta545 451 Posted May 30, 2013 Im not exactly sure why, but I love running differnt OS's at the same time, parallels is a good option for Mac users, it allows you to run windows, Linux, and any other OS's all at the same time! And its the only way ive been able to play dayZ. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cap'n (DayZ) 1827 Posted May 30, 2013 Im not exactly sure why, but I love running differnt OS's at the same time, parallels is a good option for Mac users, it allows you to run windows, Linux, and any other OS's all at the same time! And its the only way ive been able to play dayZ.My cousin does the same thing. He's got an older MacBook(2010, GT 330m), and he runs Normal settings fine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aussiebobby 82 Posted May 31, 2013 Wine is good, Dont know the technical details but its basically translates windows programs so they run on linux, but it doesnt work for all games currently, last time i checked people were working with valve on a project that works off the same principle aiming to get as many games working as possible.If by flavor you mean Distro then thats not right, its a program that runs on linux.They(Valve/Steam) want to games to be fully ported/run natively on Linux,but that requires the game devs to come on board.@Cap'nYou dont have to buy a steambox,just have a linux os(Mint as in video) and steam for Linux.Good place to look at linuxhttp://distrowatch.com/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cap'n (DayZ) 1827 Posted May 31, 2013 They(Valve/Steam) want to games to be fully ported/run natively on Linux,but that requires the game devs to come on board.@Cap'nYou dont have to buy a steambox,just have a linux os(Mint as in video) and steam for Linux.Good place to look at linuxhttp://distrowatch.com/I know that you don't have to have the Steam OS, and I think its a poor business decision by Valve if they want all games to be developed for Linux. They're basically throwing away the potential behind the console, that people could play PC games on a "living room" console dedicated to gaming. The stuff is there, they just don't want it and that'll spell their failure unless companies start cranking out ports. Which I doubt would happen, especially in Bohemias case. Valve could make a buttload of money if they advertised this as a console that could play DayZ standalone. And so would Bohemia. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heiduk 265 Posted May 31, 2013 I think its a poor business decision by Valve if they want all games to be developed for Linux.Exactly what the Steam Box ends up being seems to be mostly speculation but I'm not sure Valve is terribly interested in making money selling hardware. They've said they would be providing reference versions but that there would also be a set of specs so that other vendors could build their own versions.It seems more like a defensive move. With the Windows 8 app store Microsoft is going after Valves core business, but that store is unlikely to ever be available for any other OSes. By providing a well defined hardware/software target Valve is making it easier, and hopefully more desirable, for studios to develop cross-platform games (Windows/Steam Box/Mac/Linux). Although its market share has been slowly declining Windows still dominates the desktop market and that's unlikely to change for a while. However, the vast majority of those installs are XP and 7, the number of people running Windows 8 is pretty similar to the numbers on Mac or Linux, so now seems like as good a time as any to start encouraging some competition.Besides, Kerbal Space Program is on Linux Steam, what else to you need? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Felixthefriendlycat 92 Posted May 31, 2013 Well, I was rumbling about the dark corners of youtube because my usual server has gone offline. While waiting to get whitelisted, I looked at some benchmarks of A2 on older GPU's(GTX 280, 285, 295, 4870x2, 5870). I came across two videos. The first one was of someone playing ArmA 2 on Ubuntu, and I was mystified. I then came across another video of someone giving a tutorial on how to run Windows games in Linux, using this program called "Wine"(haven't finished video yet, not 100% shure how it works). I have a friend who has a desktop running Linux and he's pretty limited to what he can play. Now, he can play the mod once I send him the link to the video via email. And another thing, this might address the problem with Valves "steambox". Since the Steam OS would be based off of Linux, why not embed the Wine program into the OS to make it compatible with Windows games or some other kind of programming magic because I'm clueless about this. And, this could mean that DayZ Standalone would come to the Steam Box and Dean/Bohemia and their somewhat kind of maybe I'm not really sure friends at Valve could both make a ginormous profit because they could pump out an entire market campaign dedicated to the fact that you could have a console that runs DayZ. Thoughts please.The performance of whine is rather poor compared to if you where using windows. On top of that there will be compatibility issues ( minor solvable errors). Valves steambox should deliver an effortless experience and having to tweak settings and stuff will not suit the general customer. With that said valve's steambox will be completely moddable so you can install any os you'd like and you can install stuff on linux itself if you desire so SA will be playable on steambox anyway. As for bohemia releasing it in the steam store I am not sure. Though it would make the steambox a hell of a lot more attractive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cap'n (DayZ) 1827 Posted June 1, 2013 The performance of whine is rather poor compared to if you where using windows. On top of that there will be compatibility issues ( minor solvable errors). Valves steambox should deliver an effortless experience and having to tweak settings and stuff will not suit the general customer. With that said valve's steambox will be completely moddable so you can install any os you'd like and you can install stuff on linux itself if you desire so SA will be playable on steambox anyway. As for bohemia releasing it in the steam store I am not sure. Though it would make the steambox a hell of a lot more attractive.Valve and Bohemia have a relationship already, no doubt. It would generate quite a bit of sales of Bohemia decided to engineer a Linux port to the Steambox and Valve make a huge marketing campaign. It'd be the first "console" to have DayZ, and even if people claim Steambox is no competition this might create some. A lot of people are awaiting DayZ standalone, and some are just waiting for a console port(aka; idiots). This could pull quite a few potential customers away from Sony and Microsoft. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Felixthefriendlycat 92 Posted June 2, 2013 Valve and Bohemia have a relationship already, no doubt. It would generate quite a bit of sales of Bohemia decided to engineer a Linux port to the Steambox and Valve make a huge marketing campaign. It'd be the first "console" to have DayZ, and even if people claim Steambox is no competition this might create some. A lot of people are awaiting DayZ standalone, and some are just waiting for a console port(aka; idiots). This could pull quite a few potential customers away from Sony and Microsoft.Definitely agree, linux should become the next gaming OS in the next 8 years. Releasing DayZ on it with better performance compared to windows would make Linux grow immensely. But the most important thing here is that Valve's steambox is the only console I would feel good about having DayZ on it. I am 99% sure when Sony asks bohemia to make a PS4 version they will force very significant design changes on the team. The Xbox one, I do not think the hardware can even handle it at 30 fps. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cap'n (DayZ) 1827 Posted June 2, 2013 Definitely agree, linux should become the next gaming OS in the next 8 years. Releasing DayZ on it with better performance compared to windows would make Linux grow immensely. But the most important thing here is that Valve's steambox is the only console I would feel good about having DayZ on it. I am 99% sure when Sony asks bohemia to make a PS4 version they will force very significant design changes on the team. The Xbox one, I do not think the hardware can even handle it at 30 fps.The Xbox 1 has a 6670(low end GPU) that runs 30 fps on Low/Normal settings. The game would look a LOT better on the PS4(7790) which could run it at High settings pretty well. But I agree that design changes would be a problem, but Sony would make balls and balls of money off that shit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crinis 0 Posted June 27, 2013 Perhaps you've heard of something called Playonlinux? It is a program designed to (mostly) painlessly install Windows games on Linux, it does it using wine, and works quite well. At this moment I have Neverwinter, Planetside 2, League of Legends, and World of Tanks (yeah all are f2p I know.) installed and working fine on my Linux (Ubuntu) machine. I would not be surprised to see the DayZ standalone working on Playonlinux once it's been released. (It might take a short amount of time for the POL guys to make adjustments so it'll install properly, I dunno. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tr1x 53 Posted June 27, 2013 you used to be able to play it on wine, but with the latest patch...not so muchhttp://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=12569 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites