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Do we want to get to that level? Dirty guns can cause jam cleaning kits to clean up and maintained

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I can't say for sure, but I think they already plan on adding weapon jams and cleaning in SA.

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Weapons will deteriorate in the standalone and will require maintenance.

This is a good thing.

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Hopefully, weapons will deteriorate at a sensible speed and not fall apart before your very eyes as in Far Cry 2.

Jagged Alliance had a more sensible system, but you still shouldn't need to clean a modern military weapon after 300 rounds unless you buried it in sand or mud at some point.

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Hopefully, weapons will deteriorate at a sensible speed and not fall apart before your very eyes as in Far Cry 2.

This. Jams should be rare if you perform basic maintenance. Rifles shouldn't be jamming all over the place, look at the stories of how much abuse and neglect AKs can take. I hope they implement it somewhat realistically.

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Hopefully, weapons will deteriorate at a sensible speed and not fall apart before your very eyes as in Far Cry 2.

Jagged Alliance had a more sensible system, but you still shouldn't need to clean a modern military weapon after 300 rounds unless you buried it in sand or mud at some point.

Do you not own an AR15? An AR15\M16 you must keep the BCG properly lubed or you will suffer, got a grain of sand on the cartridge your rifle will jam. The m16 platform while it has been improved is nowhere as reliable as the M14 \ M1 Garand \ AK platform

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Do you not own an AR15? An AR15\M16 you must keep the BCG properly lubed or you will suffer, got a grain of sand on the cartridge your rifle will jam. The m16 platform while it has been improved is nowhere as reliable as the M14 \ M1 Garand \ AK platform

I do, and have owned many platforms. I'd generally disagree with the "grain of sand on the cartridge" instance you've listed; however, for all intents and purposes I think the amount of user-related malfunctions where Generic Survivor A finds an AR platform rifle, and improperly uses it, would likely be running rampant. How many times have you see someone hold the magazine whilst firing and not be able to figure out why their rifle doesn't cycle their $7 box of steel cased ammo? lol

Suffice it to say that it's a good thing this is a video game, as the people that own and properly maintain their firearms wouldn't be enough to fill a server. Let the bambis frolic in the sun where ignore is bliss, and .45acp revolver speedclips magically turn into 1911 magazines.

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Let the bambis frolic in the sun where ignore is bliss, and .45acp revolver speedclips magically turn into 1911 magazines.

And the fact that auto pistol cartridges suddenly have rims...or vice versa.

There are too many compromises in the game but let's take it this way...it is still a game but a bit of logic would be great.

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I am pretty sure that it is going to happen in the game. Only thing is I hope it is something I can visually see rather than a gauge telling me. I want to see rust on my gun and what not.

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Sorry I saw "Plastic Guns" and put the thread on ignore

Shit I shouldn't have typed that plastic guns aside is it ok.

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Do you not own an AR15? An AR15\M16 you must keep the BCG properly lubed or you will suffer, got a grain of sand on the cartridge your rifle will jam. The m16 platform while it has been improved is nowhere as reliable as the M14 \ M1 Garand \ AK platform

I'd love to, but the peasants aren't trusted with such things any more here.

But back to your comments..

Cleaning and lubrication are not the same thing. A regular application of Slip 2000 will keep a quality AR-15 using decent ammo running until something breaks or the gas rings wear out unless you have a FTF due to popper primers building up in the FCG or using worn-out magazines.

A Bushmaster being fed Privi Partisan or Wolf ammo, no so much.

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