The stromling 0 Posted March 16, 2013 (edited) Read the whole post before commenting! Also recommend what i should also put in, if their's anything else which should be added to the "against trollers" section please comment!Things to add!Pictures/representations.Ideas from others.How it works.If you approach the player from behind you can tie their hands (but will take 10 seconds, so don't go AFK or it'll happen to you! Though handcuffs are 1 second tie-ups), if the person being tied up moves at-least 3 steps away when you are still tying them up then they cancel the tie-up and make the item drop on the floor. If they are unconscious then you can tie them up without them being able to get away!Advantages of the kidnapper! The kidnapper would be able to look in your Full inventory! The kidnapper could feed you, or let you starve. The kidnapper could tighten ropes so you would have to start struggling all over again. The kidnapper could force you into a vehicle and you wouldn't be able to get out unless no one else is in the vehicle. The kidnapper could kill you at any time!ItemsCrafting.I need more ideas for crafting!locks. these can be found in any building and are quite common, can be used to craft a straight-jacket and door lockscapturing.The amount of time it takes to break free depends on the amount of capturing items used (e.g. rope, wire) you can find the items around the world with different lengths, you need a Hunting knife to change the amount of rope and wire.The best tie is the straight-jacket with handcuffs on legs (need another person to escape and 4 keys)Keys.These are used to lock/unlock Door Locks and Straight-jacketsdoor locks.can be placed on any door, locks the door (obviously) and can be used as a vault or to trap people. requires a key to unlock and lock, even for the placer, cannot be removed and is locked when placed.straight-jackets.cannot be broken out of, requires a friend and 2 keys to unlock.wire.This is already in the the game (I believe), it is fairly rare and causes bleeding when the hostage breaks free and cannot be used around the legs. can be broken out of instantly and without bleeding if you have a friend with a hunting knife.(makes a twanging sound, alerting nearly players) cannot be salvaged.Rope.This would be quite uncommon and wont be found at towns down south. if the hostage or a friend has a Hunting knife they can break out in 2 seconds, but makes a loud noise (like scraping rope) and may alert the kidnappers. If a friend comes with no knife, they can untie but it will take 10 seconds. You can use wire and rope together if wanted (Wire on hands, rope on legs). Rope can also be used as leg ties. If the person is untied without using hunting knife a rope the same length is droppedHandcuffs.Can only be found at NWAF and heli crash sites. very rarely. unbreakable unless you have a friend with a key. can be used as leg ties.Struggling.The amount of time it takes to struggle free depend on the item used and how much is used: Handcuffs are unbreakable! (requires a key each) A full length rope with leg ties is 15 minutes! A full length rope only on the hands is 10 minutes! Wire by itself at full length takes 5 minutes! A straight-jacket is unbreakable! (requires 2 keys)!rope or wire are maxed at 30cm, cannot be under 10cm of the item!You can stand up and walk if you have no leg ties, if you have leg ties you can roll and hop (if someone picks you up)how it can help bandits!Bandits can use this to lure and trap players by:1.one of the bandits (preferably female to make more people help.) are tied up by another.2. another bandit hides in the trees with a AS50 to shoot new players3.another bandit go's into a nearby town and tells people to help them free their friend (the tied up bandit)4. a helpful person who is brought to help the tied up person is killed.Against trollers!Here are some ways trollers cant get you with all this stuff in the suggestion1. don't go AFK for long periods of time near somewhere someone may go past! (or dont even go AFK at all)2. don't let people near you!3. have a friend which can rescue you whenever you get taken hostage.4. only play when one of your friends is on.5. shoot on sight!Other ideas. Tying hostage's to trees (only 1 in 10 trees would work, and all the trees would have the same model) Drag/carry hostages (hostage unable to struggle while being carried or dragged, you also need to be moving for the drag/carry to not cancel)This took about 2 hours to write so i hope you like it!EDIT 1: removed the random stuff i found on wikipedia (AKA the gags) and emotes.¬ TheStromling! Edited March 16, 2013 by The stromling Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steak and Potatoes 13480 Posted March 16, 2013 I skipped straight to gags and started to wonder what you really want to take people hostage for. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The stromling 0 Posted March 16, 2013 (edited) I skipped straight to gags and started to wonder what you really want to take people hostage for.would you want to shut up a hostage which kept on talking?and no, i don't think you get what i mean, eitherEDIT: i mostly just looked on wikipedia on what would be used in real life,it is a zombie apocalypse simulator after all Edited March 16, 2013 by The stromling Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leviski 2152 Posted March 16, 2013 I like the idea but you over-complicated it, at least that's how I see itI would prefer sort of a simple hand tie, No legs ties and whatnot.and Ball-gags? MMm I foresee DayZ gimps in the future of the SA ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jona (DayZ) 61 Posted March 16, 2013 (edited) A good idea but tieing people up realy affects there gameplay and if somebody can only play for 1 hour on Dayz and if there tied up for 30 mins lol dont think they would enjoy it that much =P. Also what if you logged out and hopped server would you still be tied up? and dont you think you character should be able to shout when tied up so infected/predators can detected you and finish you off so you can respawn or possible kill the person keeping you prisoner? I think this suggestion should be put into the game because people would enjoy it but maybe limit it to hardcore servers or you can think of some balanceing ideas for the players being tied up so its on all the servers. Edited March 16, 2013 by jona Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steak and Potatoes 13480 Posted March 16, 2013 would you want to shut up a hostage which kept on talking?and no, i don't think you get what i mean, eitherEDIT: i mostly just looked on wikipedia on what would be used in real life,it is a zombie apocalypse simulator after allI was figuring more of the tied up under age school girl in the basement from your gag.As for hearing just keep them out of direct chat distance of others and they cant ask for help ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Inception. 9443 Posted March 16, 2013 (edited) Honestly, this makes things so much more complex...it's kind of just unnecessary, if such a word is appropriate.You would have people tying each other up EVERYWHERE.Also, I find"4. only play when one of your friends is on.5. shoot on sight!" to be extremely silly. You're promoting to shoot on sight, which is something that the majority of the DayZ playerbase despises? Edited March 16, 2013 by Inception. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jona (DayZ) 61 Posted March 16, 2013 Honestly, this makes things so much more complex...it's kind of just unnecessary, if such a word is appropriate.You would have people tying each other up EVERYWHERE.Thats only if your knocked out or dumb enough to let someone tie you up for 10 seconds and movement of the targeted player should cancel the affect of tieing up. But the 1 second handcuffs are a joke remove them because firstly handcuffs you cant get your buddy to cut you free with a knife you would have to find a key to much hassle. But rope you can be more imaginative and tie someone lieing face down to the ground to a horse and slap the horses ass and watch them take off lol. Or a group of players can play tug of war with there person and rip them apart and hang people so zombies and predators arent attracted to the noise of gun shots wich some bears might be, and arent attracted to the smell of blood. You see you can have much more fun with rope and your balancing your idea =P Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dulix11 731 Posted March 16, 2013 So what happens when you are handcuffed, the kidnapper has left you there, and you have no keys? You're fucked? You get the super-fun oppurtunity to sit there and die of starvation/dehydration. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steak and Potatoes 13480 Posted March 16, 2013 So what happens when you are handcuffed, the kidnapper has left you there, and you have no keys? You're fucked? You get the super-fun oppurtunity to sit there and die of starvation/dehydration.Run around the first major city you find screaming im free on direct Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jona (DayZ) 61 Posted March 16, 2013 (edited) So what happens when you are handcuffed, the kidnapper has left you there, and you have no keys? You're fucked? You get the super-fun oppurtunity to sit there and die of starvation/dehydration.I suggested that your character can shout 'help!!!!!' so people can hear you and cut your rope free with a knife or animals and infected can detect you and kill you and eat you. Edited March 16, 2013 by jona Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dulix11 731 Posted March 16, 2013 No, I'm talking about handcuffs.No one can help if they don't have a key, so no, I don't like this idea. Also, what if you don't have a mic? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jona (DayZ) 61 Posted March 16, 2013 (edited) Well handcuffs are a joke ive posted saying that he should remove handcuffs from the OP for balancing. Also straight jackets shouldnt need a key only another player to free you but like you said cannot be broken out of requires a friend. So if it was just rope and straight jackets would be simpler and better for balancing. Edited March 16, 2013 by jona Share this post Link to post Share on other sites