Weapons I Want in DayZ SA

[applejaxc 2500]

ArmA 2 provided a lot of weapons.

DayZ provided... most some of those weapons?

Here's a list of (REAL) weapons I want to see in DayZ:

Russian OTS-22 machine pistol http://cyberpunk.asia/images/OTs-22.jpg

The OTS-22 is Russia's answer to increasing pistol-and-rifle crime. It is fairly accurate and uses more "Traditional" Russian calibers (5.45). It operates semi-automatic, full-auto, and burst. It is made to penetrate "Soft-armored" targets (Single weave Kevlar motorcycle helmet)

http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg/rus/ots-23-drotik-e.html

This could be the Russian replacement of the PDW!

H&K 0.45 Mk23 Mod 0 USSOCOM

God that's a mouthful!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heckler_%26_Koch_Mark_23

I'll let the wiki link talk about the gun and skip to the important parts: This is basically the M9 SD, but fires .45 ACP (so it doesn't suck as bad) and is used by Special Forces teams (US). (The USSOCOM title stands for, "United States Special Operations Command)

It would be a rarer spawn than the M9, but I'd imagine its ammo would be a little more common than M9SD.

Maybe American Special Task forces attempted to quell the zombie apocalypse when the Russians couldn't?

Hk USP http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lfpbuh9hKV1qd7v01o1_500.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heckler_%26_Koch_USP

The H&K USP is another American-used, German-made, ass-kicking pistol that can fire .40 S&W, .45 in ACP, or 9mm parabellum. It would be the jack-of-all-trades for pistol ammunition-essentially a PDW that only used pistol magazines!

The PDW kills my immersion in how it can trade magazine types so quickly without armoring/tinkering. Why not make a pistol equivalent?

Another weapon used by US (or German?) soldiers in the area.

Walter P-99

The last German gun on this list...

The P-99 is a German police-issue 9mm Parabellum. It wouldn't really affect the game much; nothing super special to report. The 16-round magazines is nice?

====SMGs====

What about the FN Herstal P90? https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ9yELowQ2noXsG7dlDhpsBVYlw4eTl_xHzBcmi8e7Y_dJa2snH

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FN_P90

Easily one of hte most accurate and (in my opinion) belonging to the list of top 5 SMGs ever, the P90 is an ambidextrous shorty made for use my tank/aircraft/artillery operators who needed firepower that was effective but small. Firing the 5.7x28mm originally designed for the FN Five-SeVeN, the P90 can reach 70-100 feet without dropping accuracy/damage. Compare that with how most SMGs are designed for 20-50 feet of operation!

Perhaps the Russians were fielding SMGs for building-sweeps?

The P90 would have to be the rarest-spawning SMG, SD/no SD versions existing.

====Assault Rifles====

I would really WANT an OICW, if the new weight/attachment system wasn't accurate.

It's basically a double-tap sniper rifle with a 20mm grenade launcher attached.

I'm not going to bother with a wiki link; it'd be too overpowered.

Also, the dev was canceled when it proved too heavy/costly.

It was featured in Max Brook's "World War Z," based on the "Zombie Survival Guide."

The SAR21 (Singapore) could be cool. It fires 5.56 and comes with an attached optical scope, built into the handle (like the G36). The addition of iron sights above/below the handle would make it a good long/med/short range weapon. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAR_21

This is another weapon the Russians would bring to Chernarus.

The FNC/Fal OSW.

Both based on the Fal, one from FN Herstal and the other from Britain respectively, are "Modernized" FALs. The FNC is scaled down to fire 5.56mm. Sweden, Belgium, and south-east Asian countries employ the FNC while the BAF has the OSW.

FA-MAS from GIAT, France.

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRNXODiD0bprOz5UMAmw3ZDpRKHMRD2_WHkrS5kqrpvUWNjofs_

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FAMAS

Fires 5.56 in semi-auto/bursts/automatic. Bullpup design makes it effective in-doors (another breach-and-clear weapon of America or Russia?)

Or if not the FA-MAS, what about the Tar-21 Tavor from Israel, used (somewhat I think?) by Russia. Also a compact bullpup, the Tar21 fires the same caliber, has about the same range, and similar game statistics, but looks pretty cool and comes with a red dot/MARS sight. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMI_Tavor_TAR-21

====Sniper Rifles=====

AI Covert from Accuracy International, UK

Essentially a L1196A1 rebuilt with a suppressor intergrated into the barrel, comiign with a 6x 10x or 12x scope. (No good picture/link found)

American-Used after Zombie's hearing proven to be a factor in anti-zombie missions?

The Ruger M700 in place of the M24? (It's the civilian standpoint the M24 is converted from/based on). Very similar stats, fires .30-06. Used by US SWAT Teams.

====Ammunition Variants=====

Obviously AP rounds. More recoil per shot, less defense per armor?

Hollow Points (HP). More damage vs flesh/zombies, less vs armor?

AET (Accelerated energy transfer): An armor-piercing bullet that still shreds on impact to soft targets, making it the closing thing to a APHP we'll see for a long time. AET ammunition is expensive and very odd-looking compared to conventional rounds-it is also unpopular (due to being undiscovered, not quality) and very rare.

Tracers: Every 3-5 shots is a bright red/green/blue/white streak? This would make night-battles/distracting zombies a lot of fun. Imagine being chased by a bandit in the dead of night and your only option is be shot or tell every zombie where you are (like normal), except the 1K flare range!

I think single-action and double-action pistols should be included, including double-action revolvers (of weaker quality than the .45 already in-game).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trigger_(firearms)

I'd appreciate some beans. This took a little reading/a lot of writing. <3

[liquidmind 320]

I think I don't have to mention what weapon I'd like to see in Standalone.

But in general you should never forget to consider weapon-modifications. AK-74 variants and M4 variants are very grateful models, as they come in many sizes, shapes and with lots of extras like scopes, launchers and other stuff to put onto them.

Before any amount of pretty unique rifles or handguns is added, I'd like to see basic, civilian guns that offer similar traits implemented.

The g17 Pistol for example can be modified with 30 round mag, a silencer, a laser and a scope. there even is a shoulder-stock you can attach to it.

You can basically transform a g17 and many other glock pistols into full-auto SMGs just by attachments.

Having a weapon like that, with all it's attachements would bring a lot more different, interesting and customizable weapon variants, than any single weapon, no matter how cool it would be, could ever bring on it's own.

But I agree on the .45, HP ammo missing in the game. Nothing pierced holes into unarmored zombies like my good old .45 (back in stalker at least)

[applejaxc 2500]

The g17 Pistol for example can be modified with 30 round mag, a silencer, a laser and a scope. there even is a shoulder-stock you can attach to it.

You can basically transform a g17 and many other glock pistols into full-auto SMGs just by attachments.

I'd have to disagree.

The G17 is ALL ergonomics. You can ORDER a G17 with a silencer/stock/whatever, but you cannot modify one easily. It's a giant piece of plastic that shoots small pieces of metal.

That's the main reason I don't like the G series of pistols... you literally get what you pay for.

HOWEVER, yes, I'd like to see a large list of attachments-but the title of the article is "Weapons I want to see" :)

I'd like to see a laser and a IR-only laser (although they'd both be useless and only help other players see you)... but imagine this:

You're bored in the dead of night and see a zombie. You flash a light and he chases it. Instant cat-and-laser game. When he gets it, you turn it off and he shambles off to go tell Mom and Pa what he did today.

Maybe a Hornet light? (I don't know what the real designation is, I just know Hornet is a company that makes them). It's basically a floodlight on the bottom of your gun that flashes on/off side/side really fast, like a super Rave party light, used in night-time raids on buildings. It blinds and scares the hell out of whatever is in 30 feet/looking at you, and anything inside 15 will be hard-pressed to guess what the center of the giant white/blue wall is before you've shot them.

It could also be used to signal SoS to helicopters.

It'd probably attract every zombie from Cherno to the west mountains and back, though.

[tarr 42]

Some of what you have listed would kill immersion in my opionion, more so than the pdw using lots of ammo types. SAR21 is just plain out of place, as is the Israeli tavor (it is not used by russians). A silenced sniper rifle is just plain OP, dont know why you would want to replace the M24 with a rifle that is basically the same bar the stock and some minor details.

This is all from the immersion standpoint you mentioned offcourse.

What I would prefer to see is more civvie versions of weapons and less military gear. Shotguns, hunting rifles, semi automatic rifles and pistols beeing more common and military gear actually hard to source. No what i mean by semi automatic rifles - in alot of countries you can buy M4's and AK's but they will be semi auto weapons only, meaning that finding a military weapon would mean you get full auto functionality and other goodies such as grenade launchers and optics attached.

[applejaxc 2500]

Some of what you have listed would kill immersion in my opionion, more so than the pdw using lots of ammo types. SAR21 is just plain out of place, as is the Israeli tavor (it is not used by russians). A silenced sniper rifle is just plain OP, dont know why you would want to replace the M24 with a rifle that is basically the same bar the stock and some minor details.

This is all from the immersion standpoint you mentioned offcourse.

What I would prefer to see is more civvie versions of weapons and less military gear. Shotguns, hunting rifles, semi automatic rifles and pistols beeing more common and military gear actually hard to source. No what i mean by semi automatic rifles - in alot of countries you can buy M4's and AK's but they will be semi auto weapons only, meaning that finding a military weapon would mean you get full auto functionality and other goodies such as grenade launchers and optics attached.

1: You dismissed all three of the weapons I expected to be down voted in one post. You get this hamburger (||)

2: I just figured a civilian weapon with a new ammo type would help diversify the game.

3: In the US, for example, you can purchase an AR15 or AK as a semi-automatic.

4: Military spawn rates in general need to be nerfed. I don't like walking out of the NW airfield with a M14 + a DMR and 15 magazines of ammo to split between them. That is RIDICULOUS! Not to mention the ghillie suit, NVGs, 2 grenades, and a satchel charge. :) More civilian weapons would help rationalize/make up for reduced military gear spawning considerably.

Now if I can just sign into European servers that weren't full of bandits that have AS50s anyway...

I was originally going to include the Russian Destroyer (I don't know it's Russian name) and the Australian AMR, or a Greek AMR.

I'm personally a big fan of the Finnish anti-take rifle that breach-loads like a shotgun/artillery battery and fires 20 mm rounds...

Edited March 13, 2013 by Applejaxc

[tarr 42]

Actually in some us states you are allowed FA weapons, but the games location is in stuck up Europe so, whatever civvie rifle i would see, i would expect it to be semi fire only. When it comes to very high powered rifles (such as 50 cals) id just say take them all away. Replace them with civilian available gear and make those military spawns very rare. Pistols should imo be the most common piece of weaponry around, next to melee weaponry.

This is after all supposed to be an apocalypse, not a TDM shoot em up game.

Edit: the M700 and the M24 fire the same calibre round afaik

Edited March 13, 2013 by Preathor

[Candylol 82]

THE FN FAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Candylol 82]

WITH A SCOPE !!!!!!!!!!

[applejaxc 2500]

Actually in some us states you are allowed FA weapons, but the games location is in stuck up Europe so, whatever civvie rifle i would see, i would expect it to be semi fire only. When it comes to very high powered rifles (such as 50 cals) id just say take them all away. Replace them with civilian available gear and make those military spawns very rare. Pistols should imo be the most common piece of weaponry around, next to melee weaponry.

This is after all supposed to be an apocalypse, not a TDM shoot em up game.

Edit: the M700 and the M24 fire the same calibre round afaik

That's not true.

There are two version of the M24, one used by the USMC (7.62) and the one used by the US Army (.30-06)

[applejaxc 2500]

WITH A SCOPE !!!!!!!!!!

1: The FN FAL already has a scope... get the thermal/NV version?

2: I LOVE the FN FAL's iron sights. I'd use the Lee Enfield more often if it had them.

3: Waffles

[Man vs Wild 313]

I would actually be pretty interested to see if they added .22 pistols and rifles into the game.

But If they added a Civilian Remington 700 I would be fine

US Army (.30-06)

I thought the army's m24 shot .308? Edited March 13, 2013 by Man vs Wild

[tarr 42]

Im sorry but the 30.06 isnt in use anymore, it was replaced by the 7.62 round. Also the USMC does not use the M24, only the ARMY does. USMC has the M40A4/5 as their sniper rifle, which is basically a M700 in a McMillan stock, also - this is way off topic :)

Edit: just to make it clear, both the M24 and the M40 use 7.62 rounds, 308 aswell as 30.06 are slightly different and neither is in use in modern military firearms.

Edited March 13, 2013 by Preathor

[applejaxc 2500]

I would actually be pretty interested to see if they added .22 pistols and rifles into the game.

But If they added a Civilian Remington 700 I would be fine

I thought the army's m24 shot .308?

You're right. I knew it was something wit a .3 at the beginning and guessed.

[liquidmind 320]

I'd have to disagree.

The G17 is ALL ergonomics. You can ORDER a G17 with a silencer/stock/whatever, but you cannot modify one easily. It's a giant piece of plastic that shoots small pieces of metal.

That's the main reason I don't like the G series of pistols... you literally get what you pay for.

mhm.. just looked it up.. seems you are right.. maybe i had another gun in mind and mistook them.. anyways. You are correct.

But there seem to be some custom addons like longer mags and a stock.

Having those alone, with a semi and a full-auto variant of the glock, would give several different types of guns.

I personally love the g17 in the mod. It's the most reliable handgun in my opinion. even tough the damage is not that impressive, the fire-rate, accuracy and ease of aiming, make up for it many times. A .45 glock would sweeten things up tough.

My greatest wish gun still is the VSS Vintorez tough. I know it's probably too strong for the game, but I love that rifle so much. 400m silenced sniper-shots that pierce armor is just the nicest way of taking down enemies there is. Be it a single shot to the head or just tapping twice to the chest. The enemy goes down. 20 rounds full auto also make it a nice close combat rifle if things get tough... I just know how people would abuse it's awesomeness to do bad things. :-(

[Sozinho 58]

I think it'd be sick if there was a compound bow to go along with the crossbow and maybe a few other variants in strength and arrows like barbs and such

[tarr 42]

Oh types of arrows, how about dipped in poop? For an extra infectious effect :)

[applejaxc 2500]

mhm.. just looked it up.. seems you are right.. maybe i had another gun in mind and mistook them.. anyways. You are correct.

But there seem to be some custom addons like longer mags and a stock.

Having those alone, with a semi and a full-auto variant of the glock, would give several different types of guns.

I personally love the g17 in the mod. It's the most reliable handgun in my opinion. even tough the damage is not that impressive, the fire-rate, accuracy and ease of aiming, make up for it many times. A .45 glock would sweeten things up tough.

My greatest wish gun still is the VSS Vintorez tough. I know it's probably too strong for the game, but I love that rifle so much. 400m silenced sniper-shots that pierce armor is just the nicest way of taking down enemies there is. Be it a single shot to the head or just tapping twice to the chest. The enemy goes down. 20 rounds full auto also make it a nice close combat rifle if things get tough... I just know how people would abuse it's awesomeness to do bad things. :-(

1: VSS Vintorez would be a Bandit's (thus, an asshole's) dream. I wouldn't want to see it-unless it had a more AK-style stock or something so it didn't look like a child's toy.

2: The G18 (full-auto version), like any machine pistol, is terrible. Jamming, inaccurate... et cetera.

[henkell 0]

Hey guys,

given the fact that Dayz Chernarus looks and feels like 90~ Russia/Ukrainia, i think they should rather add some common Russian Weapons of that time, maybe even some newer stuff and Amercian/NATO Equipment. (even if I wouldnt bother if the cutt out the m16,m107 etc.)

ok, here we go:

Pistols:

Tokarev TT33

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TT_pistol

The classical, with more then 1.7 million produced,for me almost a must-have. Even outdated by now, it is still used in North Korea, Pakistan and former WARPAC nations.

Mp-443 Grach,

http://en.wikipedia....ki/MP-443_Grach

Nearly 9 years in the design Phase, its the new Workhorse for the Russian Police and Military Personal, 18 Rounds and your ready to go !

MakarovPM

http://en.wikipedia....wiki/Makarov_PM

Well, what to say, im sure we will see this goddie again.

Stechkin

http://en.wikipedia....ki/Stechkin_APS

the Stechkin Automatic Pistol, a really good replacement for the PDW of the mod. With 750 rounds a minute, a pretty good secondary, still used by Russian Police Enforcers.

Shotguns

Bekas M

http://en.wikipedia....i/Molot_Bekas-M

A common 12/16 gauge shotgun, possible mount for hunting scopes, maybe even a sawed off version!?

Saiga

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saiga-12

Everybody knows it, everybody loves it. Maybe give it out in a civi (woodenstock) and a military version.

Doublebarrel

couldnt really think about one, but im sure you get it.

Submachine guns

Pp-19

http://en.wikipedia....iki/PP-19_Bizon

Im almost certain we see a return of the Bizon, hopefully with an optional silencer.

Pp-2000

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PP-2000

But in service 2005, its a perfect Urban enviroment Weapon. Really hoping to see this Badboy in the SA.

Pp-90

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PP-90

The Pp90 has a very interesting look and the common 9x18mm Makarov caliber, with just a Fullauto/safe trigger, its perfect for Triggerhappy building sweeping.

Assault rifles

The Ak Family

http://en.wikipedia....AKS-74U#AKS-74U

http://en.wikipedia....i/AK-74M#AK-74M

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AKM

Im Pretty sure to see the return of these, give them maybe a PSO-1 optic here, or a bayonet there, and im fine.

Aek-971

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AEK-971

A design from 1980, but still arming the bulk of the Russian Army and Special forces, with 900 rounds per minute, a good allround weapon.

Ak-100 series

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AK-100

The Ak-101/105/107, the russian attempt to fire NATO 5.56x45mm rounds, sicnificant improvement to the Ak74. The Ak-105 Version beeing a carbine, it could be a nice alternative to the Ak-74u.

Rifles and Sniper rifles

Mosin-Nagant

http://en.wikipedia....ki/Mosin–Nagant

Longtime Outdated, its still a reliable hunting rifle and still used in Russia and China. It served in more wars and has a legendary reputation, add a scope and let the hunt begin.

Sks Carbine

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SKS

With over 15 million exemplars build alone in Russia, it had a revolutionary semi-fire mechanisme and paved the way for the Ak-47. It had a comback in 1990´s a a cheap hunting rifle in the US.

Dragunov

http://en.wikipedia....ov_sniper_rifle

Used/copied by over 50 countries, it features the powerfull 7,62x54mm rounds. And with over 49 years, still in service.

Sv-98

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SV-98

The Sv-98 has a effective range of over 1000 yards, its has seen sme major action 2008 in the Ossetian war and would fit perfect into Dayz, as a replacement for the M24, or just as addition.

Vss

http://en.wikipedia....ki/VSS_Vintorez

As already said, the Vintorez or "thread cutter", is with his short size of 894mm a perfect choice for wannabe spetsnaz, which it was original designed for.

Machine guns

Rpk

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RPK

Another masterpiece by Mikhail Kalashnikov, maybe a lighter alternative to the PKM. I also could feature standard Russian mags.

Pkm

http://en.wikipedia..../PK_machine_gun

Over 1 million units produced, modern version weight about 7.5-8kg.

Rpd

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RPD

Somewhat oldschool, it still sees combat in African countries until today. Fires the original mosin rounds.

This are my suggestions, at least for the Russian part. Im sure there a lots to add, but this list should feature pretty common weaponary, althought lots of outdated stuff.

Im lacking knowledge of Civilian Hunting Rifles, but im sure someone could add more weapons.

Greetings

Edited March 14, 2013 by FriendlyBandit1

[applejaxc 2500]

Hey guys,

given the fact that Dayz Chernarus looks and feels like 90~ Russia/Ukrainia, i think they should rather add some common Russian Weapons of that time, maybe even some newer stuff and Amercian/NATO Equipment. (even if I wouldnt bother if the cutt out the m16,m107 etc.)

Hold on, go back a step...

UKRAINIA? It's the Ukraine.

Second: My version of the DayZ story involves America trying to research/stop the Zombie disease from spreading and destroying the world, as it has done.

Which allows for the M4 series, M16, and all the other American/"NATO" weapons in DayZ.

[declan223@gmail.com 271]

mhm.. just looked it up.. seems you are right.. maybe i had another gun in mind and mistook them.. anyways. You are correct.

But there seem to be some custom addons like longer mags and a stock.

Having those alone, with a semi and a full-auto variant of the glock, would give several different types of guns.

I personally love the g17 in the mod. It's the most reliable handgun in my opinion. even tough the damage is not that impressive, the fire-rate, accuracy and ease of aiming, make up for it many times. A .45 glock would sweeten things up tough.

My greatest wish gun still is the VSS Vintorez tough. I know it's probably too strong for the game, but I love that rifle so much. 400m silenced sniper-shots that pierce armor is just the nicest way of taking down enemies there is. Be it a single shot to the head or just tapping twice to the chest. The enemy goes down. 20 rounds full auto also make it a nice close combat rifle if things get tough... I just know how people would abuse it's awesomeness to do bad things. :-(

It's in Namalsk so if you play that you could find it

[Jesseindayz 7]

famas should be added as like a 4500 blood weapon :D

[Griffith 62]

M1 Carbine .30 Cal

M1 Garand 30.06

SKS Rifle

Ruger Mini 14

Remington 700

Norinco Model 97 or Winchester Model 97

1903 Springfield

M14 iron sights only

Beretta PX 4 Storm

Sig 226

Sig P6

HK 45 (Not a USP)

Webley MK IV

[Griffith 62]

That's not true.

There are two version of the M24, one used by the USMC (7.62) and the one used by the US Army (.30-06)

The army was going to get the m24 in 30.06 but they could not make the ammo in good quanity for it at match grade so they went 308

[-Gews- 7443]

Wow this thread grew. Off the top of my head:

-Mosin-Nagants

-rare spawn of Nagant gas seal revolver

-Tokarev

-somewhat rare PPSh-41

-.300 Winchester Magnum bolt action, don't really care, something like a GAP, HS Precision, or a Surgeon (or European equivalent)

-more scoped hunting rifles, .243 Tikka, Browning A-Bolt, SAKO 85... more stuff like that

-Russian rifle, maybe T-5000, Lobaev

-a dangerous game bolt rifle in a big caliber (.375 H&H maybe) with a 2.5x or 3x scope

-scout rifle, ~3.5x scope

-change the .45 revolver to a .357

-Yarygin PYa

-PSM

-obrez

-AK-74M, RPK

-Tantal

-PKM

-AK-105

-Saiga-12

-RPG-7V

[-Gews- 7443]

The army was going to get the m24 in 30.06 but they could not make the ammo in good quanity for it at match grade so they went 308

Now they're switching the M24 to .300 Win Mag, so it was a fortunate decision to go with the long action.