Nose Camera for Vehicles (forced)

[big_t 66]

The vehicle camera system as it is now is flawed in regards to realism. I say this with the note that I understand it is very difficult to simulate the human ocular angle of view when working with a small rectangular crop (computer screen) , but as it sits now: it is not optimum for realism.

Current options

1. In car / cockpit view. This only gives such a small view angle and does correspond in any way to real life experience my means of angle of view. Driving a simple car feels like looking though a WW1 tank porthole. It may be a literal representation in the way that you can see your hands and instruments but in reality your eyes do not focus on those things, but rather interprets the whole scene in terms of spacial elements.

2. Third person: This feel like pushing a toy car though a lego land. Also you can see 360 degrees from a higher angle giving an unrealistic omni presence. It really takes away from the realism.

The Best option is to have a forced Nose cam, or windshield cam (so you can see some of the hood) I know you give up a little realism by way of seeing in car controls but it gives a better / more realistic field of view. With the option of looking around a bit but not directly behind (especially if in a helicopter)

For examples see the different camera options on any modern car racing game.

Edited February 26, 2013 by Big_T

[OfficerRaymond 2064]

First, the question... Why the dark gray font. Is kind of hard to read.

Second, the same could be said of being able to follow your character in third person mode. It comes down to being a video game, and in video games, everything cannot be 100% realistic.

Not shooting down the the idea, just saying, it has been suggested before.

[big_t 66]

True true, it is only game, but still if possible why not implement?

About the grey font, I have no idea!!! I think I changed it to white now but not sure why it started off that way?? Actually I think I know now, I wrote the text first in text edit on mac it must have copied over the font settings (which is very a lame thing about text edit on mac)

[com1 10]

no

[m.w. vindicator 880]

no

reasoning??

As for the OP, I agree with you about the third person. Also I know what you mean about the first person cam. Maybe you could "lean" forward more in the car so that you see in front of you more and less of the dashboard. This would still give the player the ability to look around the car realistically.

[UmBe 125]

The Player should be able to change the height of the First Person Camera in the "Cockpit".

I think it is the MTV where you sit so redicolously high, that you can Not Look Out of the side of the Truck.

They could call this Option: changing the Seat height (immersion and stuff)

Edited February 26, 2013 by UmBe

[big_t 66]

As for the OP, I agree with you about the third person. Also I know what you mean about the first person cam. Maybe you could "lean" forward more in the car so that you see in front of you more and less of the dashboard. This would still give the player the ability to look around the car realistically.

Yes if the in cockpit/cabin point of view was moved forward about a foot or two, just outside the front windscreen or cockpit glass that would be perfect and give better sense of things.

[Jeremiah Cross 55]

I would rather it be the in car view we have now, but with the POV moved back a little bit, giving a more comprehensive view of the dashboard. I find the hunched way forward elderly driver POV a little annoying. If they did away with the UI (which I remember Rocket saying in one of the dev blog videos was one of their goals, or at least making it a minimal UI) and just had your fuel gauge, speedometer, a check engine light, you know, the usual stuff you'd find on a dashboard, I'd be down with that. If you want a more "right over the hood' view, just zoom in. But then again I typically drive in first person anyway, i find it easier to avoid obstacles from that view. Removing 3rd person on foot would mess me up for a bit, but I'm sure I could adjust.

Edited February 26, 2013 by Jeremiah Cross

[Positronica 30]

Your argument should be based around what is more fun, not what's more real, because ultimately that's what matters, and frankly there's a lot of people who find the game more enjoyable if they have the option of both first person and third person available in vehicles, depending on what situation they're trying to take-in and navigate. If it's that big of deal to you, the proper solution would be to request that the devs put a vehicle-first-person-only switch as an option for server operators, and then everyone who thinks first person is better but can't trust themself not to sometimes use third person, plus everyone who can't stand the thought that someone in a different vehicle is playing the game differently can all go play on servers with the restriction switch enabled.

[big_t 66]

Your argument should be based around what is more fun, not what's more real, because ultimately that's what matters, and frankly there's a lot of people who find the game more enjoyable if they have the option of both first person and third person available in vehicles, depending on what situation they're trying to take-in and navigate. If it's that big of deal to you, the proper solution would be to request that the devs put a vehicle-first-person-only switch as an option for server operators, and then everyone who thinks first person is better but can't trust themself not to sometimes use third person, plus everyone who can't stand the thought that someone in a different vehicle is playing the game differently can all go play on servers with the restriction switch enabled.

Yes that could work

OR just have one view that is about half way between the two current ones but feels and plays much better (more drivability and more overall awareness). >>> Behold the Nose cam.