GameJeff100 1 Posted June 18, 2012 Arma does not support true melee.Ranged weapon. Low damage. Silent. 2m effective range' date=' 100% drop-off at 3m and beyond. Set number of uses or increasing chance to disappear (break) on use. Varying spread/cone depending on weapon type (like pellet vs. slug for shotguns). Voila. Melee done.This whole "ARMA doesn't support it" argument is confusing. We're not talking about implementing a grappling system or something. Melee will function exactly like every other weapon in the game.[/quote']Yeah just like old Duke Nuke em. They created melee weapons easily. Just make a Ranged weapon with unlimited ammo that has a really really short range. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ssg (DayZ) 8 Posted June 18, 2012 Did you know you can retrieve bolts shot from the crossbow' date=' for re-use?[/quote']Isn't it bugged? Me and my friends haven't been able to retrieve single bolt in 1.7. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sinaz20 0 Posted June 18, 2012 Did you know you can retrieve bolts shot from the crossbow' date=' for re-use?[/quote']Isn't it bugged? Me and my friends haven't been able to retrieve single bolt in 1.7.It's not bugged as far as I know-- the bolts have their own interaction hotspot-- so there's a bit of a pixel hunt to retrieve them.If the zombie falls onto the bolt, it can be nearly impossible to retrieve it, though.I've read you can hide the body and the bolts will stay behind. Shrug. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brohemoth 0 Posted June 18, 2012 Axe should be one hit one kill. We're all strapping young lads here (no such thing as females who play DayZ) so we would have no problems swinging an axe into zombie necks all day in real life like Paul Bunyan on crack. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
prometheus111 1 Posted June 18, 2012 no such thing as females who play DayZWay to alienate any female player base...I hope there will be some sort of melee added... having a hatchet and hunting knife and not be able to use either to defend myself is a bit ridiculous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brohemoth 0 Posted June 18, 2012 way to take what people say on a forum seriously Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dinsdale1978@gmail.com 19 Posted June 18, 2012 Axe should be one hit one kill. We're all strapping young lads here (no such thing as females who play DayZ) so we would have no problems swinging an axe into zombie necks all day in real life like Paul Bunyan on crack.I guess you never pissed off a woman then. They can swing weapons just as well as any "young lad." You may want to start hanging out with some females and leave the boys alone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Villa Straylight 0 Posted June 18, 2012 Also, very Walking Dead (graphic novel, not TV show). That hatchet is practically a character. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ApeToe 3 Posted June 18, 2012 Maybe my dream of being able to finish off passed out players that you've shot down will finally come true! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lone1egend (DayZ) 0 Posted June 18, 2012 I'm all for melee weapons, in fact they would be the HIGHEST of priorities to have in a post apocalyptic zombie world. You obviously wouldn't ever want to draw attention of other Survivors or Zed in a real life or game scenario. Some things that "I think" would need to be implemented with any kind of melee system though....* A swing stamina system; sorta like Dead Island. Fact of the matter is, it takes a lot to bash in a humanoid skull, unless you are all juiced up. The human skull is the hardest part of the body, so it should take a toll on you to use a melee weapon. Limited amount of swing in "X period" of time. Even possibly forcing you to move slower for a short duration of time, multiplied by "Y number" of swings. As well as a toll on your Hunger/Thirst for each swing; it doesn't need to be big, but some kind of toll none the less.* ANY and ALL items that are melee capable should and would need to have some fashion of durability to it and eventually break. Again with the human skull being the hardest part of the body, you are only going to be able to swing an axe/hatchet so many times before the handle breaks and/or the blade dulls to the point were it becomes a blunt instrument. Same could be said with a baseball bat which would eventually splinter, a golf club would bend to the point of not being useable, etc, etc, etc.....* Some weapons; smaller ones in particular (ie. Hunting Knife or say a possible screwdriver and such), should have a random chance of not being retrievable. You lodged that knife into a skull, there should/need to be a chance that it is now stuck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xyro 9 Posted June 18, 2012 Remember that time people said Arma 2/DayZ can't do melee...yea me too... This video on top of the other two Arma 2 melee mods I've seen (The katana one and the Crusader battle one) hopefully will shut those up who think it's set in stone that Arma 2, is not melee capable. If there's a will, there's a way.I would love to see some for of melee implemented, but I don't think it should close to game breaking. It's something you'd want to use in a very low ammo/no ammo situation or a time you just MUST kill that one zombie without alerting players or a horde.Is that what the dev was getting at when he said the hatchet will have more uses? Who knows, but that's what I hope it will be. Here's some idea on how I think melee weapons can work and not hurt the game/play style of it.Cons of Melee -You already don't want to be near zombies due to the obvious reasons...health loss, bleeding, broken bones, alerting more zombies, etc.-Health is rare enough as it is. Why would you want to put yourself in harms way if you don't have to?-Your still exposing your self to potential bandits and making yourself vulnerable when going for that kill swing.Pros of Melee -Using a melee weapon brings that true survival realism effect to the game.-Allows you take out a zombie without alerting more, again stressing the survival realism feel of the game.-Gives you some sort of 'out' if you don't have, are very low or trying to conserve ammo. Especially with the implementation of the no starting gun in 1.7.1.-The possibility of using stealth kills if you sneak up behind unsuspecting players, make it personal! :DWays to make it work -Have the axe and knife degrade over time, so you aren't encouraged to just run around with an axe or knife slashing away. With NO option to drop it once it's degraded. This will prevent people from always having a weapon (Making them use it when it matters), as well as people finding an axe/knife that only has one swing/stab left on it.-You can only carry one knife and axe at a time. This would prevent people from throwing every axe/knife they find in their bag and 'hoarding' weapons to counter the degrading durability.-Make it so you can only melee every X amount of seconds or make it an option in the scroll window, so people CAN'T hack and slash.I feel this would be a huge benefit to the game and really stress that realistic survival feel. I'm not looking for swords, wrenches, etc. to be added to the game, I feel the axe and knife are more than enough. If they're implemented with degrading durability, again it deturs you from hacking and slashing and will prevent the game from turning into L4D. Again, being near zombies now is a bad idea, pretty sure you wouldn't want to go toe to toe with a horde and take on all the disadvantages listed above with being in swing range of A zombie, never mind several.TLDR - Melee good, can be done and hope will be done. Me passonate about idea, you lazy for no read good idea. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S1ippery Jim 139 Posted June 18, 2012 If melee is put in DayZ I imagine it would work something like; Select G to open inventory. Right click hatchet, Select "Melee with Hatchet", [Error: You need to be standing next to a Zombie to melee with Hatchet], (moves closer to Zombie) Select G to open inventory. Right click hatchet, Select "Melee with Hatchet...[player begins lengthy melee animation]...Zombie breaks legs, eats face, You Are Dead, cue violin music. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NinjaJake 22 Posted June 18, 2012 (no such thing as females who play DayZ)Cool casual sexism bro.Now pretend that you don't care and that you were 'just joking' (Protip: Jokes are funny) and we'll pretend that your super edgy-ness is cool and stop talking about it because we're men and its 'uncool' to call people out on their casual bullshit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
funionz 7 Posted June 18, 2012 (no such thing as females who play DayZ)Cool casual sexism bro.Now pretend that you don't care and that you were 'just joking' (Protip: Jokes are funny) and we'll pretend that your super edgy-ness is cool and stop talking about it because we're men and its 'uncool' to call people out on their casual bullshit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NinjaJake 22 Posted June 18, 2012 The emptiest insult on the internet."How DARE you stick up for someone else for no reason other than its the right thing to do!? Stop pointing out my shittiness it makes me feel bad ;_;"=) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viktor_Berg 0 Posted June 18, 2012 Aside from the obvious guess at melee, I am thinking we might finally be able to cut down trees properly. This will lead to two possibilities: either the ability to deforest any desired location for setting up camps in thick forests, OR an ability to build palisade walls using the cut down trees. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livilaNic 13 Posted June 18, 2012 If melee is put in DayZ I imagine it would work something like; Select G to open inventory. Right click hatchet' date=' Select "Melee with Hatchet", [Error: You need to be standing next to a Zombie to melee with Hatchet'], (moves closer to Zombie) Select G to open inventory. Right click hatchet, Select "Melee with Hatchet...[player begins lengthy melee animation]...Zombie breaks legs, eats face, You Are Dead, cue violin music.ROFL! The way he noted it in the update thread (which I assume you read before posting): can only drop through right click in gear menu (can only drop through? *unsure*). This in fact will be the case. Seriously, had a good laugh at this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
funionz 7 Posted June 18, 2012 The emptiest insult on the internet."How DARE you stick up for someone else for no reason other than its the right thing to do!? Stop pointing out my shittiness it makes me feel bad ;_;"=)There is no 'right thing to do' on the internet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Connor Turley 0 Posted June 18, 2012 It could be used to amputate body parts that have been bitten by the zombies then you'd need a fire to carterize the stump. And a bandage to cover it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NinjaJake 22 Posted June 18, 2012 There is no 'right thing to do' on the internet.So edgy.Anonymity + Means of Expression = Look at me be an asshole because nobody can stop me in my secret internet treehouse.=) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shag 90 Posted June 18, 2012 Didnt read whole thread but melee weapons are confirmed in 1.7.1.2 already. In closed test as we speak. Sounds interesting. Will be fun when running out of ammo.Lets hope we get one from the start. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deepfried 95 Posted June 18, 2012 throwing axe?Wait what? melee? I dont think I like the sound of that. Zombies are supposed to be scary, your supposed to want you keep your distance... not run up to them and hit them with an axe... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S1ippery Jim 139 Posted June 19, 2012 throwing axe?Wait what? melee? I dont think I like the sound of that. Zombies are supposed to be scary' date=' your supposed to want you keep your distance... not run up to them and hit them with an axe...[/quote']Have you played any Zombie game ever??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ocyris 0 Posted June 19, 2012 If it needs additional cruelty then there should be a chance it get stuck in the target :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xyro 9 Posted June 19, 2012 throwing axe?Wait what? melee? I dont think I like the sound of that. Zombies are supposed to be scary' date=' your supposed to want you keep your distance... not run up to them and hit them with an axe...[/quote']Don't read through the thread to see how it could be implemented in a pro/con way. Please, don't. I SAID DON'T!!! STOP HITTING THE PAGE 4 LINK!!!ON1E Share this post Link to post Share on other sites