With this last update...Is Day Z... dead?

[delfin5 5]

Today with this last update of Day Z, I´m starting to think that this game suicided, auto-killed itself... My reasons to say this?

This morning I have been killed by a bandit that was camping with a DMR aiming to the... nothing? I was cutting a cow in pieces in the middle of the wilderness, far away from any possible problem, a lot of miles / kilometers away. He started to shoot me, aiming very bad to be honest, and i instantly wrote in the chat that everyone could read: "Hey stop shooting!!!!!! Im friendly!!!". I wrote that same time I made clic to bandage myself. He stoped shooting while I was bandaging myself and then after 0,5 secs he started to shoot again with no stop. I pressed really fast ESC button to disconnect, and then I remembered while I was watching it, that is impossible to disconnect in that situation. So I just accepted it, maybe bad luck or something, I quit from that game.

Now, with this latest update of the game, I came to play like an hour ago. I was in the middle of a forest, everything was almost full darkness cause of the night, and suddenly, and without any doubt, everything was becoming white, a full daylight came to my eyes, and before I advised what was going on, I saw a lot of messages from all the people in the server saying:

- Waooh!!

- LOOOL

- What the fuck!?!?

And then... I saw this text, like everyone else did, with the screen covered in perfect white:

op op op

OPA GANGNAM STYLE!!

With the music sounding in the background of our screen :S (I was in that moment already with a good friend in the server and he opened fraps, I hope i will be back here in a couple of days with the part that we recorded).

After that everyone was getting killed and kicked from the server by this hacker, and I pressed myself very fast ESC button to try to abbord, but it said when i was pressing ESC a text from the hacker: No quiting , and a second ago, before this text appeared for the people that was opening escape menus to abbord and run away from this hacker, I saw that I couldn´t disconnect cause now you need to be with the abbord button open for a countdown of 30 to 0 that lasts like 45 seconds... Five minutes later, I checked again the server, that was the only one working for me at the moment with all the last updates by the way, and nobody was there, 0 guys in that server...

Now, if the game already was hard for good people and survivors that doesnt kill other people, just the zombis, now actually is the bandit & hackers paradise...

- A survivor can´t disconnect anymore when a hacker start cheating in any way, cause you need 45 seconds and in 45 seconds he already took you down or trolled you to have fun for the full day...

- A good man that has fun killing zombis and helping other people cannot run away any more from bandits trying to fuck him, cause you need 40 seconds with the menu opened watchin to the "abbord" button before being able to disconnect, and that is if he failed very much the shots... The reality is that, if a a bandit sees you , and if you dont want to kill him , you are dead. No more the chance to magically dissapear and going to a server without them to have fun playing a funny game without somebody trying to kill you for no reason...

I will make a direct question: Is this game dead for people like me that are here to kill zombies and not to ruin other people´s game or their work by killing them or destroying what they have? Is the game ended for the survivors? Is Day Z... dead?

Edited February 4, 2013 by delfin5

[DemonGroover 8836]

Whitelisted servers are your friend.

Douche bandits who cant aim are a godsend - you should have hunted his ass down.

[delfin5 5]

Whitelisted servers are your friend.

Douche bandits who cant aim are a godsend - you should have hunted his ass down.

I cant kill somebody that is from a forest aiming with a DMR to the wilderness for no reason in a distance of +500 meters with me having a PDW, while Im cutting a cow... can I... Anyway I didnt talk only about that. I tried to explain that this game has reached the last element it was needing to be the perfect paradise of BANDITS + HACKERS/CHEATERS

Edited February 4, 2013 by delfin5

[FlamingDefibs 421]

DayZ isn't "dead" just because you were harmed by some douchebags. You're overreacting.

[TheBlackJim 32]

Standalone. Nuff said.

[Minibjorn 6]

This latest path in my mind is a good big leap farward in keeping the game in touch with it's survival roots... a survival game is suppose to be hard to keep you on your toes, and personally I look farward to the SA version if it's all the dev team is hoping it'll be.

My server have a good population, 20+ to 50 most times of the day, it's a full day cycle server, so I don't think it's dying, of course the population of the game as a whole will always fall off after the hype. I have no real fears at the moment for the furture of DayZ.

Happy hunting all

[intensity (DayZ) 312]

I pressed really fast ESC button to disconnect, and then I remembered while I was watching it, that is impossible to disconnect in that situation. So I just accepted it, maybe bad luck or something, I quit from that game.

You kinda lost all credibility when I read this. As much as unprovoked banditry might feel like a douchy thing (and probably is) it's quite realistic. You will always have people shooting for no apparent reason.. At least to you. Who knows why they are doing it... They might be crazy, isolation, hunger you name it. What's not realistic is their prey disappearing into thin air (alt+F4) What you tried to do was removed for a reason, it's 10x more annoying than getting shot for no reason.

As for the cheaters DemonGroover tried to explain what you should do but obviously you're too thick to understand. Let me try again:

Whitelisted servers: no cheaters.

Edited February 4, 2013 by intensity

[icomrade 201]

You kinda lost all credibility when I read this. As much as unprovoked banditry might feel like a douchy thing (and probably is) it's quite realistic. You will always have people shooting for no apparent reason.. At least to you. Who knows why they are doing it... They might be crazy, isolation, hunger you name it. What's not realistic is their prey disappearing into thin air (alt+F4) What you tried to do was removed for a reason, it's 10x more annoying than getting shot for no reason.

As for the cheaters DemonGroover tried to explain what you should do but obviously you're too thick to understand. Let me try again:

Whitelisted servers: no cheaters.

Orrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

FR16: no cheaters.

[delfin5 5]

DayZ isn't "dead" just because you were harmed by some douchebags. You're overreacting.

I knew someone was going to answer this and I already had a response ready:

I don´t care about being killed, it´s not important for me. I see it in everyone almost, the game is dieing for the people of my group, for random players I know, for one clan of good people I have played a lot of times in his server... People is quiting the game cause the patches are making just a way to play it: kill everything you see, you cannot disconnect to dodge the all-day-fighting, so just kill, kill forest kill...

And now some adds for my answer: What you call "douchebags" is actually 2 really different people and therefore situations: bandits and hackers...

[delfin5 5]

Guys, try to read again carefully, It seems most of you are missunderstanding the point that I´m not here to cry for being killed by a bandit in the morning and by a hacker in the night, Im here to try to make everyone see if this game is evolving correctly, cause its making harder and harder the game for survivors and easier easier easier the game for hackers and bandits...

For example:

What's not realistic is their prey disappearing into thin air (alt+F4) What you tried to do was removed for a reason, it's 10x more annoying than getting shot for no reason.

The bandit can decide that he wants to kill but the survivor cannot decide that he wants to go away from the fights, huh?

Prey? Prey? Wtf? You are a pretty obvious bandit... Its a matter of a guy having fun to kill other people and another one having fun to play a game against the zombis without wanting to kill other people for fun. Not a matter of prey and hunter, thats the fucking point of the bandits. They can decide how the game is going to be played in that moment for him and for the guy that they are going to shoot, but that guy cannot decide anymore to dissapear from that stupid no sense fight for him.

[estx1992 32]

Lol DayZ is FAR from dead.

I think with anticipation of the Standalone, the mod may have slowed down.

But watch when the standalone releases. DayZ is going to be one of the most played "Multiplayer" games on PC.

I made the switch to WarZ back when their forums started (Before the drama), and there was a surprising amount of players that didn't even know DayZ existed. But after shit hit the fan with WarZ there was A LOT of people looking into DayZ. So expect there to be a huge wave of new players pop up in April.

[delfin5 5]

Lol DayZ is FAR from dead.

I think with anticipation of the Standalone, the mod may have slowed down.

But watch when the standalone releases. DayZ is going to be one of the most played "Multiplayer" games on PC.

I made the switch to WarZ back when their forums started (Before the drama), and there was a surprising amount of players that didn't even know DayZ existed. But after shit hit the fan with WarZ there was A LOT of people looking into DayZ. So expect there to be a huge wave of new players pop up in April.

I don´t mean about not enough players guys. Im trying to go deeper, read paying attention guys. I mean about they are ending with the survivor way to play dayz, and yes , with the survivor players also, but I want to aim exactly to the biggest problem, no more survivors ways to play this game. "Or you go killing people or better go play something else..."

Edited February 5, 2013 by delfin5

[intensity (DayZ) 312]

The bandit can decide that he wants to kill but the survivor cannot decide that he wants to go away from the fights, huh?

If the bandit can just appear in front of you and shot you dead then you have a point. But as it is, you are just not good enough or put yourself in a compromising situation (slaughtering a cow in the middle of the field) and you cannot escape. It's very simple and you need to understand this otherwise you're just embarrassing yourself.

Prey? Prey? Wtf? You are a pretty obvious bandit... Its a matter of a guy having fun to kill other people and another one having fun to play a game against the zombis without wanting to kill other people for fun. Not a matter of prey and hunter, thats the fucking point of the bandits. They can decide how the game is going to be played in that moment for him and for the guy that they are going to shoot, but that guy cannot decide anymore to dissapear from that stupid no sense fight for him.

No, actually I'm a pure survivor. I don't shoot for sport and I always look for friendlies. I got shot in the face more times I would like to admit because of this.

If you want to play as a survivor you need to start playing smart and not make yourself a target. Bandits are part of the game.

[estx1992 32]

I don´t mean about not enough players guys. Im trying to go deeper, read paying attention guys. I mean about they are ending with the survivor way to play dayz, and yes , with the survivor players also, but I want to aim exactly to the biggest problem, no more survivors ways to play this game. "Or you go killing people or better go play something else..."

Understand too that the Standalone is just a couple months around the corner. (Provided it doesn't get pushed again).

Have you been reading the Dev Diaries? and Dev updates on the standalone? They have changed a lot of stuff, mechanically and cosmetically. You can't label the game as "dead" because you got griefed, that's always going to happen.

[mr_chabowski@live.co.uk 2416]

The bandit can decide that he wants to kill but the survivor cannot decide that he wants to go away from the fights, huh?

Sorry to jump in, but... In a word, yes.

I'm not keen on the banditry side of things, but everybody has to accept that it's a part of the game.

Trying alt+F4 to quit out of a battle is a bitch move, and should be considered cheating by EVERYONE.

I understand what you're saying. The last couple of updates seem to be gearing some changes towards PvP gameplay.

It doesn't mean you can QQ about getting outplayed (by someone who aparently can't aim for shit)

If you don't like getting shot, stop putting yourself in vulnerable positions.

[spinager 152]

The Combat Logging has been there for the last couple of months. I don't see why you're complaining now. Thats what I understood from your post. You don't like having to wait to quit the game if someone shot at you.

Like others have said, it sucked when you come up on a sniper camping north of Elek. Getting the jump on them, missing with your revolver b/c they were wearing their ghillie and you were just able to catch his movement from the corner of your eye. Only to have them vanish from thin air. Pretty pussy tactics I say. And when it comes to hackers, deal with it. Go to white list. Go to a non PVP server. Came across one this passed weekend. Was pretty cool, but boring to know no one was gonna shoot you.

[estx1992 32]

Sorry to jump in, but... In a word, yes.

I'm not keen on the banditry side of things, but everybody has to accept that it's a part of the game.

Trying alt+F4 to quit out of a battle is a bitch move, and should be considered cheating by EVERYONE.

I understand what you're saying. The last couple of updates seem to be gearing some changes towards PvP gameplay.

It doesn't mean you can QQ about getting outplayed (by someone who aparently can't aim for shit)

If you don't like getting shot, stop putting yourself in vulnerable positions.

BOOM. There, this thread needs to end on this. I couldn't have said it better myself.

[delfin5 5]

If the bandit can just appear in front of you and shot you dead then you have a point. But as it is, you are just not good enough or put yourself in a compromising situation (slaughtering a cow in the middle of the field) and you cannot escape. It's very simple and you need to understand this otherwise you're just embarrassing yourself.

I was not "in the middle of a field", I was fucking far away from any dangerous or interesting areas, in the middle of the wilderness, actually that position is next to my base with a lot of vehicles and items that hasnt been spoted for 3 weeks already... Anyway you are taking the thread away from the point, so please go to your threads or where you belong, because I want people focussing in the point mate, not in my stupidness or cleverness being a survivor in dayz... The discussion between you and me is if i did it correct or wrong, but what im talking about its about a fact, about the doors closing to the survivors in this game, about the increasing chances for the bandits to be even greater assholes, or to the hackers to cheat freely cause they have enough time to kill you before they leave.

I won´t answer you again cause people need to focuss, thank you for the talking though.. And of course bandits are part of the game, as survivors are also, and their ways to play vs the zombis are decreasing with every update. A really survivor would never talk about prey like you did btw...

[delfin5 5]

Sorry to jump in, but... In a word, yes.

I'm not keen on the banditry side of things, but everybody has to accept that it's a part of the game.

Trying alt+F4 to quit out of a battle is a bitch move, and should be considered cheating by EVERYONE.

I understand what you're saying. The last couple of updates seem to be gearing some changes towards PvP gameplay.

It doesn't mean you can QQ about getting outplayed (by someone who aparently can't aim for shit)

If you don't like getting shot, stop putting yourself in vulnerable positions.

I agree with you but not in everything and I like your position, I never talked about "alt F4" and I dont do that, so you now even will understand me better. I just do what the game allows, not quiting with alt f4.

[sausagekingofchicago 4711]

I knew someone was going to answer this and I already had a response ready:

I don´t care about being killed, it´s not important for me. I see it in everyone almost, the game is dieing for the people of my group, for random players I know, for one clan of good people I have played a lot of times in his server... People is quiting the game cause the patches are making just a way to play it: kill everything you see, you cannot disconnect to dodge the all-day-fighting, so just kill, kill forest kill...

And now some adds for my answer: What you call "douchebags" is actually 2 really different people and therefore situations: bandits and hackers...

Yes it is. That's why you tried to combat log.

Again, if you want to avoid hackers, find a good whitelisted server. 99% of the problem is solved right there. Bandits are going to bandit. I feel combat loggers are worse problem than bandits and I'm a friendly player.

The bandit can decide that he wants to kill but the survivor cannot decide that he wants to go away from the fights, huh?

Yes, it's called "running away from the fight" not "disconnecting like a coward".

Edited February 5, 2013 by SausageKingofChicago

[delfin5 5]

The last couple of updates seem to be gearing some changes towards PvP gameplay.

This is what i want to focuss and what people should pay attention, is not just "some changes" , its a lot!! I dont want to kill other people like a real apocalipse would allow me, why do they have to force me to do it! Thats the point of a good survivor.

Do you remember him? http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTaQ34O-4e6uIPThjkd6A6oh7Mckg9E6VTXNA6rcoVQOCDDfTj7pw

How did he end for what he believe that it was the correct? Now look to the title of my thread.

[mr_chabowski@live.co.uk 2416]

You can't be a good survivor if you're such a pacifist that you get yourself killed.

EDIT: Dale wouldn't have tried to quit out of the fight.

There's plenty room for peaceful cohabitation. But you'll always have to be able to defend yourself.

Edited February 5, 2013 by Chabowski

[delfin5 5]

Yes it is. That's why you tried to combat log.

Again, if you want to avoid hackers, find a good whitelisted server. 99% of the problem is solved right there. Bandits are going to bandit. I feel combat loggers are worse problem than bandits and I'm a friendly player.

Yes, it's called "running away from the fight" not "disconnecting like a coward".

Nope, you are wrong, If I say something, its for something.

I tried to disconnect to be able to feed my small friends (i have a group, small group and we are runing out of food at all) with the food i was having, literally.

Next time think twice before answering, Im not here to lie. Im not a tipical noob coming here to cry...

[delfin5 5]

EDIT: Dale wouldn't have tried to quit out of the fight.

He would if he had good young friends waiting him to feed them with the food of the backpack...

You can't be a good survivor if you're such a pacifist that you get yourself killed.

Not just me , people that doesnt want to kill other people, that is here to have fun surviving and taking down the zombies, while helping other survivors, you are reaching the exact point, maybe the only one here. congrats mate and thank you, at least i see somebody understanding what i mean.

Edited February 5, 2013 by delfin5

[compydad 3]

I don't know what this update has to do with anything the OP is talking about. I've been hacked to death ever since I started playing, and see the Gangam style hack more than a few times.