Admin abuses should be addressed before SA

[taco241 393]

I've heard of quite a few people lately that are getting banned from whitelisted, and private hive servers unjustly.

I never paid much heed until I happened to get banned for stealing a heli I found at the Admin's camp

- no discussion, no questions - just WHAM with the banhammer.

I put in a fair bit of time on this character. And it got me thinking. The stand alone will feature much more end-game content. If I spend even more time developing a character, will I still be at the mercy of whatever goon is running my server to end my gaming experience?

I've never cheated/scripted or whatever (I think I entered secret codes in Mortal Kombat back in the 90s but that's about it)

We need some server admin accountability in SA.

[j0nathan27 2]

if u dont want admin abuse then play on my server first 10 regulars get whatever gun they want and first 3 get a chopper location

[j0nathan27 2]

if u dont want admin abuse then play on my server first 10 regulars get whatever gun they want and first 3 get a chopper location

the ip is : 174.34.133.106:3802 put it in dayz commander as favorite to join

[Rage VG 4033]

I take note of people advertising their servers in any thread they get the chance, and I intentionally avoid them. Because you're annoying.

Anyway, I don't see why you created two threads about this.

[taco241 393]

how about a built-in video recorder in the SA. both for streamers, and a looped (3-5 minutes max) recorder for catching scripters/abusers.

Edited February 4, 2013 by taco241

[frosti 2165]

if u dont want admin abuse then play on my server first 10 regulars get whatever gun they want and first 3 get a chopper location

But that what you just wanna do is admin abuse.

[Dreygar (DayZ) 178]

Admin abuse is something I have noticed for a long time, and that is why I really don't like private hives. No matter if they are "customizing" the map, they still know where everything will generally be if it isn't the vanilla DayZ because they put it there. Then you have the fact that they have the ability to see every player's location, every object's location and it defeats the purpose of making a camp or do a lot of things... which in turn ruins the overall experience of the game. I really hoped that the standalone would rid players the ability of hosting their own servers, but since that isn't going to happen then all I can hope is that it'll be impossible for them to cheat or have any advantage over other players.

[Steak and Potatoes 13480]

This sounds unjust, I hope you find another good home server to play on with better admins.

[fully 51]

if u dont want admin abuse then play on my server first 10 regulars get whatever gun they want and first 3 get a chopper location

I think you missed the point of OP!

[xx_fr0st-w0lf_xx 53]

Admin abuse is pretty bad, its all about finding a server you enjoy and like with good admins. I really hope dayz stand alone has better public servers this way we don't have to soley rely on private servers. Those servers should strip the admins of abuse powers (such as seeing everything) and if a unfair bad is called by the admin or the admin appears to be abusing, he/she loses the privilege to host a dayz server

[Dreygar (DayZ) 178]

I basically hope that the SA will just have better security and such all together. My experiences over the past few days have been fun, but nearly every day required the typical reset of death. From Hackers clearing out everyones gears, to people teleporting behind me and shooting me, and so forth. It's not exactly difficult to arm up. Though it's almost to the point it's not worth really looking for anything because you know someone's going to come in and screw up everyone's fun.

[frosti 2165]

This sounds unjust, I hope you find another good home server to play on with better admins.

That will never happen. Admins on private servers always will abuse their power in on way or another. Only way to deal with it is to ignore or accept it.

To cheer OP I'll tell some of my stories.

On one server I've found admins URAL (big truck) parked in a forest about 1km from North West Airfield, packed up with phat loot, perfect condition, full of fuel. So I get in and drive away in da woods. After 5 minutes server "crashes", then as I log in URAL fuel tank is empty, I so I get out and hide away in woods. After another 10 or so minutes there is chopper flying, admins land, refuel URAL with jerry cans and one of them drive it away to their base.

On another server there was unfamous map going around with all the custom loot and vechicles spawn zones marked on it that one of admins gieved to his friend.

[Dreygar (DayZ) 178]

On one server I've found admins URAL (big truck) parked in a forest about 1km from North West Airfield, packed up with phat loot, perfect condition, full of fuel. So I get in and drive away in da woods. After 5 minutes server "crashes", then as I log in URAL fuel tank is empty, I so I get out and hide away in woods. After another 10 or so minutes there is chopper flying, admins land, refuel URAL with jerry cans and one of them drive it away to their base.

We found an admin's vehicle the other day on our way to Stary. It would have made the trek a little faster and we were all for that! Though 2 minutes into our travels we are all banned from the server for "ESP Hacking". It was one of "The Walking Dead" servers we tried out, and it was actually a pretty decent server as far as performance is concerned, with a good pop, but alas another exploit of hosting your own server.

[Steak and Potatoes 13480]

That will never happen. Admins on private servers always will abuse their power in on way or another. Only way to deal with it is to ignore or accept it.

To cheer OP I'll tell some of my stories.

On one server I've found admins URAL (big truck) parked in a forest about 1km from North West Airfield, packed up with phat loot, perfect condition, full of fuel. So I get in and drive away in da woods. After 5 minutes server "crashes", then as I log in URAL fuel tank is empty, I so I get out and hide away in woods. After another 10 or so minutes there is chopper flying, admins land, refuel URAL with jerry cans and one of them drive it away to their base.

On another server there was unfamous map going around with all the custom loot and vechicles spawn zones marked on it that one of admins gieved to his friend.

You have just been a part of the wrong communities, if you take my car I'll laugh especially if you shoot me in the face because thats the way the mod is supposed to be played I dont need every car, bus or chopper to have my fun running around. At my community Balota Buddies we do all we can for our players to ensure they have fair and secure game play. We even hold special events for our community members to get involved in to display how much we appreciate them. Finding a good community/server is hard to come by, you just have to look in the right areas and find what suits your needs. I personally as an admin and can vouch for myself and our others we offer all the assistance we can to our members. Server admins should not look for an opportunity to attack their communities. I talk and play with 90% of my communities members 3,000+ on a nightly basis especially newcomers who have not spent much time on dayz. I take them into seperate servers I host and give them an opportunity to train and hone their skills so when they go out into one of the regular servers they feel good about the map and basic lay of the mod. Its all in the pudding if you take care of your family they will take care of you.

Edited February 4, 2013 by Steak and Potatoes

[Josh225 129]

I usually try to record whenever i'm doing something like pvp'ing a group or raiding a camp or whatever for some sort of proof that I didn't script. (If you get hackusations it means you're doing something right.

[plrsniper 87]

If you can't trust in private hives admins then you are out of luck son... Short of becoming your own Admin on your own server and of course, not abusing your powers.

[Dancing.Russian.Man 1631]

People who are hosting private servers are allowed to do what ever they want without punishment.

The DayZ Hive servers are being monitored and they have very clear guidelines on how to maintain their server, this includes not banning without a lot of solid evidence. If you break the guidelines, your server will be blacklisted from the DayZ Hive. It doesn't prevent you from hosting a private server, though.

So really, I think the admin abuse is addressed as far as 'official' servers go.

[Toft 61]

I've heard of quite a few people lately that are getting banned from whitelisted, and private hive servers unjustly.

I never paid much heed until I happened to get banned for stealing a heli I found at the Admin's camp

- no discussion, no questions - just WHAM with the banhammer.

I put in a fair bit of time on this character. And it got me thinking. The stand alone will feature much more end-game content. If I spend even more time developing a character, will I still be at the mercy of whatever goon is running my server to end my gaming experience?

I've never cheated/scripted or whatever (I think I entered secret codes in Mortal Kombat back in the 90s but that's about it)

We need some server admin accountability in SA.

The thing is, on private hive's the admins can ban you if they want, if its justified or not.. its their servers and they pay for em.........

I dont disagree that its bullshit too ban a player just because he or she find the server owners base etc, but reality is that its their server on they are the ones paying for it, so they can do what they want. ( on private hives ).

[snake pliskin 11]

My favorite is i was playing on panthera and it was just me and like 4 others since it was late at night. One was an admin. The other 3 were voice talking in side chat and didnt seem to care about giving there location away. So i sneak over the hill to surprise them. As i'm like 400m away, the admin comes on voice asking if i was part of there group because i was getting close to their location. When they said no, the admin gave them my location and said to watch out. Needless to say, laughed at how shitty a server it must be if it had admins like that and left.

[dgeesio 1034]

apparently in standalone so i was told admins cant abuse alot of stuff which would be welcomed

how many times do you go on a server and the admins group just happens to have all best gear everytime ;)

need blood cant get any oh lets just give myself blood, need to know where your enemy is with your loot oh lets check the logs , oh no helis oh lets just respawn somemore and go to location when i restart for other reasons :lol: seen it every day on many servers. oh i just found it afte restart (yes like you do after every restart ! haha )

why its like this is beyond me and very stupid. its blatent aswell. its not even well hidden this is why i never hide stuff in any tents or vehicles cause it takes a minute to check where all good stuff is and its gone.

just hope all this stuff is locked away for standalone like i was told then we can have a fair playing field like itssupposed to be instead of admins just saying hmmm ill spawn myself that and have this gun and find that player :rolleyes:

Edited February 4, 2013 by dgeesio

[theirongiant 200]

It's a double edged sword at the moment, on one hand people go nuts when hackers ruin the game and on the other people go nuts when admins have the power to spot teleporters, hacked in vehicles, check inventories, restore items players have lost etc. I'd guess that there are a higher number of hackers wrecking games than shitty admins abusing the tools they have, hopefully some sort of word of mouth darwinism will make the shitty admined servers lose players and the honest admined servers rise to the top. The SA will do away with the vast majority of the hacking and should do away with the need for admins to have such far reaching tools i'd imagine.

[OrLoK 16183]

Hello there

Admin abuse is a hideous thing. That's why we allow complaints in server threads (as long as they are not trolling). Unfortunately it's a difficult thing to control. Some folk naturally are just arses.

Rgds

L

[TazzNADO 2]

You have just been a part of the wrong communities, if you take my car I'll laugh especially if you shoot me in the face because thats the way the mod is supposed to be played I dont need every car, bus or chopper to have my fun running around. At my community Balota Buddies we do all we can for our players to ensure they have fair and secure game play. We even hold special events for our community members to get involved in to display how much we appreciate them. Finding a good community/server is hard to come by, you just have to look in the right areas and find what suits your needs. I personally as an admin and can vouch for myself and our others we offer all the assistance we can to our members. Server admins should not look for an opportunity to attack their communities. I talk and play with 90% of my communities members 3,000+ on a nightly basis especially newcomers who have not spent much time on dayz. I take them into seperate servers I host and give them an opportunity to train and hone their skills so when they go out into one of the regular servers they feel good about the map and basic lay of the mod. Its all in the pudding if you take care of your family they will take care of you.

Here here, so true! I've not tried the Balota Buddies server yet, as I'm too busy trying to get my server more populated. I will give it a go tonight when I get home from work!

[dgeesio 1034]

Hello there

Admin abuse is a hideous thing. That's why we allow complaints in server threads (as long as they are not trolling). Unfortunately it's a difficult thing to control. Some folk naturally are just arses.

Rgds

L

thing is private hive people just laugh as they say we are private so what can they do to us even if caught = nothing !

hopefully this isnt the case in standalone or it will just be the same again if th files arnt locked down.

[Imafighter 236]

Admin abuse is something I have noticed for a long time, and that is why I really don't like private hives. No matter if they are "customizing" the map, they still know where everything will generally be if it isn't the vanilla DayZ because they put it there. Then you have the fact that they have the ability to see every player's location, every object's location and it defeats the purpose of making a camp or do a lot of things... which in turn ruins the overall experience of the game. I really hoped that the standalone would rid players the ability of hosting their own servers, but since that isn't going to happen then all I can hope is that it'll be impossible for them to cheat or have any advantage over other players.

For my server, I don't even go on it much. I just stay on DART and ban/kick when I need to. I see where everybody is, and see if anybody is spawning with legit or non-legit gear, or spawning in vehicles. Caught two of those skiddies yesterday.