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sorry I guess they added this: 11. As a server admin you must not: You are not permitted to ban players for killing yourself or clan members. You are not permitted to shutdown your server when your killed. You are not permitted to shutdown your server when you lose a vehicle. You are not permitted to kick or ban for smacktalk. You are not permitted to ban for suspected cheats or exploits of a non-server-disruptive nature, including but not limited to ghosting, unverified cheating, duping and similar, UNLESS you have solid evidence, IE logs.12. You are permitted to kick or ban for hate speech, including racism and homophobia. All kick or ban actions must be reported in the forums under section http://dayzmod.com/f...heat-reporting/13. You are permitted to kick or ban for ongoing severe hacking that is affecting players in a server-disruptive way. All kick or ban actions must be reported in the forums under section http://dayzmod.com/f...heat-reporting/14. PVP is enabled at all times no matter the rpg element the admin tries to set. but how do you know that someone went to another server after yours and looted same area? Proof? All you can tell is someone looted a area on your server, than DC.... so?(yes its lame, i know) how do you know they did anything else? Proof? seems flimsey to me. I hate the DCing and farming loot and all that but its seems a little presumtuous of you unless you followed someone to another server? Idk, im not a admin, i have no idea.

Bla bla bla. Admins have loud mouths. On every second server they announce that alt+f4ing and ghosting will get you banned. I yet to see at least one case where somebody got really banned for that behaviour.

^^ thanks, looked for this earlier but couldn't find it. Server hoping/ghosting is never okay.

That sounds like the best suggestion I've heard past few weeks, it's entirely up to you if you find the mod playable or not but personally I find it fun and playable, I run daily with mates from my gaming community and we have lots of fun, to each it's own, don't get me wrong, I'd love to see the hackers, grieving, server jumping and ghosting gone as much as the next guy but currently the mod is not at that stage so you can either compensate for that or quit.

Watched Deagan's stream where he was hacked 6 times on 5 different servers. Teleporting, invincibility, mass server kills, etc. Seems about par for the course. Play on a server that has more than 5 people on it and you'll start encountering them on at least an hourly basis. I've switched to playing Lingor Island and private hives. It eliminates both the ghosting and (for the most part) hacking issue at the same time.

He's complaining about how people can travel on one server to a base location on another server, then go to the server with the base on it and attack it. Ghosting.

My point was that anyone should be able to accomplish whatever they want, how they do so is up to them, and no path should be given extra weight through built in mechancis in an attempt to "balance" the system. We all have access to the same content, its up to the players to use the content the way they want to get to where they want. I agree that holding on to your humanity would be the most rewarding path, but thats because it should be the most difficult. I think this concept can be found in any form of media that deals with the break down of society, and I at least think its the way it should be in DayZ. No cookies for good little boys, if you want to be a white knight fine, but you should realize why your one of the few on that path. I do think once players are able to build more stable structures and ghosting/altf4 are removed/addressed any friendly communities will draw tons of attention both from friendly and bandits. I completly agree, thats why no other games feature the mixture of content that DayZ does. Perma death, open sandbox, full pvp, realisitic damage, etc. the majority of gamers can't handle these factors because it forces them to reliaze that they can't/won't win. This is why we have the crazy PVP/hacking we do, people can't handle investing in their character when it can all be taken away through their own actions or the whim of another player. This is the biggest design challenge for DayZ, IMO I want no escape, single EVE style servers where everyone is forced to endure the same horrible experiance. I doubt it ever gets there though because most people would quit once they realized they aren't 100% in control and can't escape the evil shit other people want to do to them. This is why altF4 will never really be fixed, if you listen to recent interviews rocket has talked about doing cool offs, but not log out timers. If people can't escape they freak out, even if they die after logging back in they still didn't lose as bad as if they died after being shot, they still got to give a last F U to the killer by ensuring they don't get their gear. This is also why there will never be intrinsic value to a player character, ie skills or things that aren't easily replaced. This would add alot to the game IMO, and I think its the only thing that could encourage random grouping, otherwise you can just get what you need yourself and don't need anyone else. It would incrase the butt hurt to much though so it will never make it IG. Pussy's are ruining this apocalypse sim

Are we pretending hackers are no longer able to magically teleport and instakill us like some type of inter-dimensional beings? Easy: find knife, hatchet, matches, canteen = unlimited survival. There are some really scenic places up north to live and you'll even get the occasional visitor that will never see you. With a tent, toolbox, tank traps, some barbwire, entrenchment tool, and sandbags (are the last two even in regular dayz?) you can setup a nice base in the hills that will be pretty hard to attack without ghosting through it on another server. I have several spots picked out for when underground bunkers become a reality.

Don't need to server hop to find items but vehicles... I question your claims. There are multiple scenarios that can happen in this game, the server owners can horde all the vehicles and shut down the server whenever one is stolen, a clan can horde them all, teh server might not be fully whitelisted so no vehicles are spawned what so ever.... there are vehicles but they're hidden or waiting to respawn. You might get lucky but out of the 100s of servers I have played I have found two helicopters and a bus, one helicopter was hacked along with the bus and the final helicopter was on skalisty island at that spawn. I've played so many hours of this game looking for vehicles, I always scan the vehicle spawns when I am nearby and I have only found one legitimate vehicle. I've found vast camps with 10-20 tents full of gear beyond your wildest dreams but no vehicles. If I wanted a vehicle badly I would server hop till I found one and set up home and stay on that server. Just like I have done on Lingor I've set up home on one server and on that server I also have a vehicle but that vehicle is barely even hidden, all someone does is need to go off road by about 50m near a large POI and they will find it sitting at the base of a hill, just its good to know vehicles exist on that server and that is why I am staying. Its not even a case of me not finding vehicles myself, the only vehicles I have seen other people using are hacked ones on DayZ and I've been playing a lot for the past 3 months so... Serverhopping is lame for ghosting and in some sense even loot spawns but this is alpha, I've seen countless times where the entire server was void of loot, are you suggesting people should keep looking even though the server is broken indefinitely (until restart)... no you would log and go onto another server but wait you're server hopping! So what defines server hopping? Are you only allowed on one server per night? You need to put the e-honour away, people ghost, hack, glitch, dupe and hop to their hearts content on this game, when the game is in alpha and some of the mechanics aren't polished if someone wants a vehicle are you really asking him to look indefinitely on a server that might not even have any spawned? Pssh

So you were griefing and ghosting. It's people like you who make dayz less fun for others.

I said you have a TWS because thats the only way you can make that shot at night from a click out and I hit kill me. It's the only possible answer. I never ghosted anyone. Ghosting implies logging while in combat to reposition and gain advantage. All i ever did was log into the server from a day server where I could actually see to get to Cherno.

Oh look nice ghosting again, followed by a disconnect.

He logged off, Replaced himself shot then instantly logged off. ^ Ghosting.

You seem not to understand what the term ghosting means. It means logging off while engaged in combat switch servers and changing positions. You killed me. I went to a day server where I could see to get back to cherno.

Dan - GUID: 87cfd92b32daa0650c527160220af302 Nice Ghosting to get a kill.

Um, show us the link to where ghosting is allowed. Can't believe you would suggest it is OK to ghost.

instead of being immature point me to where rocket says that ghosting is a cool thing

Ghosting: Maneuvering or Counter-Maneuvering through server hopping. Duping: Duplicating gear through one of the number dupe exploits.

Please shut this server down for the following violation: " 11. As a server admin you must not: You are not permitted to ban players for killing yourself or clan members. You are not permitted to shutdown your server when your killed. You are not permitted to shutdown your server when you lose a vehicle. You are not permitted to kick or ban for smacktalk. You are not permitted to ban for suspected cheats or exploits of a non-server-disruptive nature, including but not limited to ghosting, unverified cheating, duping and similar, UNLESS you have solid evidence, IE logs."

Please shut this server down for the following violation: " 11. As a server admin you must not: You are not permitted to ban players for killing yourself or clan members. You are not permitted to shutdown your server when your killed. You are not permitted to shutdown your server when you lose a vehicle. You are not permitted to kick or ban for smacktalk. You are not permitted to ban for suspected cheats or exploits of a non-server-disruptive nature, including but not limited to ghosting, unverified cheating, duping and similar, UNLESS you have solid evidence, IE logs."

Please shut this server down for the following violation: " 11. As a server admin you must not: You are not permitted to ban players for killing yourself or clan members. You are not permitted to shutdown your server when your killed. You are not permitted to shutdown your server when you lose a vehicle. You are not permitted to kick or ban for smacktalk. You are not permitted to ban for suspected cheats or exploits of a non-server-disruptive nature, including but not limited to ghosting, unverified cheating, duping and similar, UNLESS you have solid evidence, IE logs."

ghosting is meta-gaming. meta-gaming is encouraged by rocket himself.

it makes me sad to see a server admin advertising ghosting :(

Although this guy's math is probably spot on, the main problem is the vast amount of duplication and recirculation of higher grade military equipment. Temporary solution: Find a quality private hive and make it your home. Just playing a couple of hours on numerous standard hive servers, you would encounter numerous duped items i.e. Rangefinder, M240. Most of which was simply looted off another players corpse who looted it from another player's corpse etc. etc. The gear is seldom left alone or destroyed so it just becomes rampant in circulation. Main reason I suggest a private hive first(aside from the obvious performance/control/security advantages), but it slices that circulation rate considerably, and players are given the opportunity to farm it for themselves on a relatively even playing field. For instance, I play on Rinaun's server circuit(HIGHLY RECOMMENDED). This guy has multiple unbiased admins as well as himself to monitor any abuse/combat logging/spawning/ghosting/scripting, you name it. Cycling out both barracks early this morning and some time this afternoon I came across Rangefinders, NVGs, an M240, Mk 48, among other valuable items, some of which I never even knew spawned in the barracks, such as NVGs. It just takes time and patience, because i certainly ransacked through A LOT of garbage to find those items. RNG is rng, that's what it is, but the rewards are grand for those with patience, strategy AND a good environment to execute both. We could use more people on this Hive, come join us. over 80+ active vehicles and rivalrys/alliances forming left and right facilitated by a hosted teamspeak server. Sorry for the quasi hijack, but this is about the best temporary solution I can find for your current dilemmas with spawn rates and their proportional value weight to you as a player.

I agree to an extent (I know it is funny after reading the last posts), I only care when people try to defend the action. If you are going to be a pussy at least do not admit to being a pussy on the forums. The only part I disagree with is where you say we are telling someone how to play the game, well if calling people out for cheating is all of a sudden "telling them how to play" then I have no idea how they hell we should act. It will never be fixed and when it happens to me I just move on to avoid ghosting. I never come on the forum just to single someone out, and to be 100% honest I only read the thread to see the rage (that I then participated in). I just hate people defending the use of blatant cheating though, I could care less if you do it but have the decency to at least feel shame.