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Private hives saved the game from the horrible public hive system in the classic mod. It is only when the private hives started to introduce a stupid number of vehicles, military buildings, aircraft and weapons of which then killed the true meaning of the mod. * What made me love the game was that character locked servers started to appear, no longer can you server hop for gear, no longer can you sneak into a players base and steal vehicles, no longer can you server hop to find a camp base. * Players finally had to actually travel to find gear or other players!!! What an idea, people playing the game legit?! White-listed communities started to appear and saved many players from constantly getting hacked, since the DayZ team abandoned the mod for the standalone game. * But as it currently stands, history is just repeating it-self.

If this is in direct response to my post, I never said I wanted pvp removed. No where in my post does it say that. No where in my post history have I ever said such a thing. I actually argue for KoS staying in game all the time. I'm a bandit. I kill people. I don't always KoS, but yea I like the pvp in DayZ. I just don't want the game to be easy to survive in with 100's of vehicles, everyone having military grade weapons and equipment easily found, and no one having to worry about how they will survive. Stop insinuating I meant something else. If this was not a direct response to my previous post, disregard then.

Hey, In 1 of the dev vlogs for Dayz SA Rocket said "we want you to feel like you are scavenging" he put loot under tables and let you open up boots and doors on cars but why can't we open cabinets, why can't we use closets, why can't we sit in chairs at tables if you can take the static vehicles and let us use the doors ect you can do that for closets/cabinets. We should be able to interact with more of the environment. I know this is alpha for SA but is there some kind of confirmation or anything that this is going to be possible?

The issue is there are so many people saying, "I know it's alpha but..." and then go on to COMPLAIN about something that is explained by the fact that the game is in alpha. People don't know how to have a discussion and be constructive. They only seem to know how to complain about things. I don't see people getting flamed for casually bringing up bugs or asking if anyone else has experienced something. It's people whining and moaning about issues that go without saying. EDIT: And just to go along with an example you used, we don't need threads with people saying "WE NEED VEHICLES!!!" Obviously vehicles are coming, this has already been confirmed. Quit spamming the forums with useless posts about things that are on their way. BUT if you want to talk about what kind of vehicles there should be for example, or how many, or have discussions along those lines then by all means. "The game needs vehicles" is stupid and pointless.

No. Survivors wouldn't be able to loot anyone? Ridiculous. Morality is not black and white. What if you find a dead body? This system is so overly complex and gimmicky, it would seriously detract from the game. I don't want messages telling me that other players are within 500m of me, that basically takes away their ability to sneak up on other players undetected. Besides, you seem to be forgetting that this game is still in Alpha and therefore not all the content is final. There's going to be zombies, vehicles, base building, all features which inherently provide different means of cooperation and combat. Everyone will quit the game? Oh thank you, wise Nostradamus! Even though the mod has already been out for over a year and that didn't get abandoned, so anecdotal evidence would prove you wrong.

I would love to see that a better medical system will affect the whole gameplay not only the firefights. I totally agree there with Zogvarn that we need more differentiation and i think when we start seperating the whole body in smaller parts with more "functions" it could create a awsomely indepth survival system. Like the feet getting sore when you walk long ways without good shoes. That needs to be reflected in different movements not only in taking damage after time, there needs to be different animations when having the right arm disabled and the left, same with legs. I know the medical system we see atm is not even implemented to the point it was in the mod... .....but i think this is way more important then getting vehicles or more guns into the game.

Literally any vehicle is fine for me under one condition. Fuel consumption should be realistic. Huge military trucks and helicopters use a shitload of fuel - and they would really be rendered unusable in a zombie apocalypse. So, if fuel is scarce (like it should be) and vehicles are common (like they should be) I'll be happy. +100. If I can drive a crappy little Ford Fiesta around a muddy field at 50+ in real life, no vehicle should be reduced to such low speeds just because their on grass.

Don't get me wrong, I'm sure the timer will discourage some players. But there will always be a hardcore group of players continue to exploit this advantage until it's actually removed from the game. If you want a current example, I'd suggest playing ARMA 3 : Breaking Point. They currently have this timer system in place, and while it does help prevent ghosting. People will still continue to server hop to the various military bases for gear since there is a chance that many of the bases have never been touched. But your going to regret the timer system quickly once the game allows vehicles to the game, people will have no problem in server hopping to steal vehicles. * 30 - 60 min means nothing to a group of which can steal a vehicle. Or once storage tents will be added to the game, people will just continue to server hop till they discover a someones encampment on the borders of the map. Locking the character to the server forces people to travel, if my base was discovered by someone who traveled allot of distance on that specific server then I would say that is fair. But if my base was discovered by a player that is just server hopping, then I would utilize the same cheap tactic in finding someones base as-well.

Think you are going to be disapointed when the game fully releases, Rocket didnt make anything like Epoch with its house building and locked doors and locked vehicles. Epoch took Dayz way off what the game was meant to be, Epoch took all of the Dayz out of it.

Wait until the game gets more content and private servers start popping up. You could probably find a community that leans more to your playstyle in the future (I am betting it is just less douchy coast campers but not exactly pure PvE) but early Alpha is probably not the best place to hope for a different mindset from the Mod. The game as it stands right now is bare bones and after exploration it becomes hard to move North since you can find everything on the coast. Without storage, bases, or vehicles there is nothing to do after gearing up except act like a douche or pretend to be nice as you murder everyone who is as geared up as you are while pretending they were all bandits.

before all the i am dayz crowd dive in we need a patch with content adding . even if it is early or half broken. if its broken you can yell all you want its alpha bro :lol: at the moment there isnt anything to do or test. it needs vehicles , animals and some part of base building added. adding bicycles for eg dont need to be tweaked so add them in maybe different skin. vehicles dont need to be overly different .hopefully some of these things are added soon to keep me and others interested . awaits bonfire built :D

First off: I like there is PvP is this game, I like how it's a sandbox with no rules, I don't want PvP discouraged with a 'blunt instrument', I think PvP adds to the danger of the game, I like how my heart rate goes up when looting military areas (I consider them to be fair game for KoS even), i like how I have to scan the horizon with paranoia constantly as I am trekking around, i think to be great this game needs a mix of survivors/bandits/heroes. However; *this is your story *unscripted *mmo *survival *horror When you watch the alpha trailer these are the things popping up on screen. These are the things that the DEVELOPERS are telling us this game is about. I don't see *(generic) deathmatch FPS or even PvP listed there, do you? Really saddens me that so many people play it as such and then even try to justify mindless kosing as realistic. Does killing bambis near the coast really give you such a hard-on? Basically what you are saying to me is that in a zombie survival outbreak EVERYONE is going to be either a Merle, Govenor or Shane type character on DayZ. If you watch the Walking Dead there are MANY other types of characters who are gentle and helpful, and those that use force only when necessary like Rick (much more realistic scenario) If you have watched the livestreams, read the devblogs and interviews with Rocket, it's obvious that he doesn't want to break the sandbox nature of DaZ by encouraging or discouraging a certain playstyle in a too direct way. I agree with this. However, it's pretty obvious by listening to Rocket that one of his main goals in the Standalone was to make your environment be much deadlier, making it harder to survive. This is evident in the new medical and food systems which are much more complex, realistic and I am sure in time will be quite deadly to players who ignore their health. Things like having items break and wear our also adds to this. So, no: to the "Hur dur dis iz a PvP game! butthurts need to go play a single player if they don't want to be KoSed-while-un-armed-on-the-coast-by-another-angst ridden-16-year-old-who-is-taking-out-his-lack-of-ability-with-the-opposite-sex-on-people-in-a-video-game." crowd, I am sorry but this game is as much about survival, zombies and realism/immersion as it is about PvP. There are many, many, many PvP titles out there, while DayZ is/was fairly unique with its survial aspect. Why dumb the game down to being just a simple deathmatch? I am beginning to think that the only way what I consider DayZ purists can be happy is when more realistic servers are brought out or all the CoD-kiddies move on to the next hyped game or even when the inevitable Overwatch mod for DayZ: Standalone comes out. The ease of which military loot is being obtained right now will obviously change so that will help too. The mod was nearly ruined by rampant/mindless kos tbh, and its not just the killing itself. Since DayZ mod came out it was dumbed down many times by custom servers and mods. I load up my DayZ commander for servers and what do I see? +barracks +loadout +24hr Day +3rd person +500 vehicles +self bloodbag +no infection +EZ-MODE GARBAGE!!! These are primarily associated with PvP oriented servers/mods because these ez-moders cried like babies when zeds were buffed (viral zeds) and could knock you down, and infection was increased. Cried like babies they did. They didn't want a survival game to get in the way of their deathmatch so they dumbed it down. Dumbed it down they did. They like playing with loadouts so they don't have to run north for gear, added barracks all along the coast etc. Your life becomes cheaper, you don't care if you die because you can re-gear so easily. So it cheapens the whole DayZ experience. These people who like to PvP everyone in sight don't wan't to play DayZ Standalone. They want to play DayZ: SA Overwatch. Problem is that mod isn't out yet and won't be for a while. TLDR; KoS will get better as the game makes survival harder and the CoD-kiddies move on to the next game/mod

lThat game mode with 24/7 day and thousands of vehicles already exists... It's called wasteland but doesn't have the zombies and instead AI.

To prevent things from becoming "24/7 daylight 1000 vehicles max weapon spawns!" Which by the way is a game mode called "Wasteland" in Arma if you want to play it. Here is the solution to the problem: (All servers on the public hive will have to abide by these rules.) 1. All servers admins will have the ability to set a time zone for the server that will be day and night when they want. 2. This ability to set the time zone can be used once a week and will have a 2 hour (this period's length of time is negotiable) period after it has been set to be changed. 3. The day and night cycle will be 24 hours real time. 4. Server time will not change on restart and instead continue on. 5. Any server admin caught trying to abuse things for a 24/7 daylight server or something like that will have a single chance to set the time zone before being locked out of time control for a month. Vote for this solution here on the dayz feedback tracker: http://feedback.dayzgame.com/view.php?id=3908 This solution means that you set the server time zone to be day when you play and gives the chance for players to sneak around at night at the opposite time. You would have your approximately 12 hours of daylight and the chance to choose exactly when this is. And the the chance for covert night ops and raids on bases that are not hindered by daylight.

If you never played the mod how would you know what to expect from the standalone? The mod is full of KoSers and lots of hackers. The mod also has vehicles and other gear.

Lack of endgame options (repairing vehicles, helicopters) loot tiers (heli crashes, NWAF spawns), only 40 people in a map designed to support 150 as well as easily attained weapons and gear is obviously going to cause everybody boredom.

I realize the game is in alpha, and some of these features are going to be implemented, but mostly it's just a wishlist of features. 1. A 30 second timer on logging out if within X distance from another player, cannot log out while bleeding, broken leg or handcuffed, etc etc. While i'm no KoS guy i'm not against shooting someone who threatens me, like when i chat in comms "friendly" and the guy pulls an axe or gun out, I shoot him, and he combat logs, or tries to ghost, etc etc, of course most of the community would enjoy a feature that prevents ghosting/combat logging, and so would I, that's why it's on my wishlist. 2. A class system, I just find it funny how everyone knows how to mend a broken leg, or fly a helicopter(if they release them in standalone), drive a bus or perform blood transfusions, while I can actually do without, it seems like a fun idea. Classes like doctor, pilot, cook, doomsday prepper, etc 3. lots of guns, a variety would be awesome, even if they aren't really needed, yeah sure X rifle is similar to Y rifle, but hey, it's just nice to see them both there, totally capable of being modified and all(maybe with different attachments). 4. More attachments, man i love that there are like 5 different types of clips for one gun, it just adds that variety you and guy X could both have the same gun, but completely modded for different purposes, it just tickles me, I want more added. 5.Some sort of system to mark friendlies, currently, this can actually be done with the in game clothing options, have everyone friendly wear hoxton mask or something, but maybe another way like in epoch? 6.More zombies, it's a shame when I run through cherno only to be chased by 3 total zombies, I know they're working on this, so I'd like to see the increase soon 7.Zombies have spectral powers removes, can no longer walk through walls, enough said 8.Animations to force players to do things, like kicking them onto the ground from the back after being tied up, or hitting them with the butt of your gun, these kinds of things add more to the role-play, you capture a bandit who was attacking your team and you force him to tell you the location of his base, etc. 9.A really cool reward for being a hero, A lot of people ask for bandits to be punished, nope don't do it, instead reward people for healing others, giving transfusions, etc, with something cool, idk what, but it should be cool. 10. (saw this on another thread) grow-able beards! After a character has survived long enough without shaving, he gets starts getting a survivors beard! 11.While painkillers can calm you down from the shakes, I think there should be luxury items lieing around as well, like cigarettes, that do the same thing, chocolate and spices and stuff. these items can have positive effects on player characters, like increased HP regen or slight movement speed, or steady the shakies, just an idea to have valuable resources maybe worthy of banditing? 12. Some way to store loot, like tents or chests or a base of some kind, I think bandits would be less likely to kill, and more likely to stalk and follow, then eventually rob you if you had a base with all the good loot! also it would help with the random dieing that happens sometimes 13. more persistent bodies, currently bodies disappear after a short period of time, but loot sticks around for ever as far as i'm aware, so maybe if the body vanishes then loot just drops to the floor? 14. some reason to play on night servers, I can actually tell what time of day it is on a server based on 4/40 or 39/40 15. A notebook where important info is listed, (players marked as friendlies or bloodtype, event locations, etc) 16. I know we're getting 'em but still, vehicles man, vehicles I understand that some of these will be actual features, but this is sort of my current dayz wishlist, the game is great, i know it's in alpha, but that's what i want to see as we approach release. I'm also interested in what other people want to see in game?

I am sure all of you have come across rope at some point in your travels. I know that there are uses that are going to be implemented as well. I wanted to take a moment to talk about possible uses for it in the game that you would all like to see. I am just going to list them below and give an explanation. Restraint - Self explanatory, I believe this will be implemented, tell me if I am wrong. Drawstring - Perhaps with some other tools and a burlap sack, you can create a small carrying case that would go into your inventory. Makeshift Stretcher - Use a combination of rope, sticks, and rags to make a makeshift stretcher that can be used to carry someone that has broken legs faster than if they were to crawl. Perhaps this stretcher can be used to carry extra supplies? The rope would be used as a fastener to make the frame of the stretcher. I have actually seen this mechanic used in a Takistan Life server. It was not a stretcher, but it was the ability to move someone around that was secured via zipties. Clothesline - If wet clothes become problematic, it would be great if you could use rope to create a clothesline that is secured between two points. You would then remove your gear and it would give you an option to place it on the line. Wait around a bit and they would dry :). Sectioning Off Areas - Use some rope in combination with other materials like sticks and duct tape in between to points to close off areas. You would only be able to get through this impediment if you had a knife or axe to cut through it. Now onto some of the more devious uses.... Dragging - Similar to a stretcher, except if someone was bound by handcuffs or rope, you could have the option of attaching a length of rope and drag them to where you want them to go. It would nice to see this as an option for dead bodies as well. This could be further enhanced by having the option to drag them behind vehicles when vehicles are implemented. This may sound brutal, but Day Z is a brutal world. Hangings - This would apply to both dead and alive. If it is a dead body, you could hang it from a tree or other structures (lamp posts, overhangs, doorways). If they are a live player, the same logic would apply, except after a period of time they would lose consciousness and die. You would be able to save the player by shooting the rope or cutting them down with a knife or axe. Imagine the message that can be sent or received by walking into town where a few bodies are hanging in the entrance. Garrote - Shooting guns makes too much noise, this would be the ultimate silent option. It would be very difficult, but if you managed to sneak up behind them, it would give an option to garrote/strangle with the rope. Maybe there would be a random chance of being successful depending on the rope condition? Those were the ideas that had, what are some of yours?

There is absolutely nothing else to play for right now. No vehicles, no base. Lots of features missing. So seeking gear and a M4A1 is the only goal.

I have lost so much gear but its always fun to start with a fresh spawn and gear up, get my character healthy and interact with friendly players (with a handful of betrayal :P) The thing is, looting is THE main mechanic of the game, second to that are the survival mechanics. Also humans get attached to gear, its how we work, once we have something, even a can of beans, you feel bad if that is stripped away from you, and especially if the reason is something that feels unfair. Things like glitches, falling off roofs when you didn't do shit, breaking your legs when you step off a 2 inch high wall, or a one shot to the face from a random location. These events feel cheap and unfair and is cause of allot of complains. You are talking about creating a story? well there isn't much stuff in the form of mechanics to create that story besides, collect gear and survive. We don't have any vehicles to repair, we don't have any tents that you can store loot in, so you feel more at rest when you walk around with a character. We don't have bases that we can build, etc. There are allot of mechanics that are coming, but in its current state, I think its a fair play to go for the loot because without that, there isn't much to dayz at the moment.

In DayZ, all you have is gear. Gear and your vehicles, if talking about the mod. No matter how fair or even an engagement it was, people don't like everything being taken from them, so they come here to rave about the injustice of the world.

Add em all Rocket, and basebuilding, and vehicles, and a bigger map, and riding horses, and thousands of zombies, and zombie bodies that stay on server for 4 hours, and tons more loot... We dont care about lag and moving around anyway :) :p

First of il start with a list of guns I DONT want to see in the game: DMR: Why: Its the most overused, tree camping, bambi sniping, lame ass weapon ever. It scares bambi's away from bases and stuff as the unskilled user plink's 20 rounds of 762 lead in their direction as they near the bases. Just stupid and should not be included. Barrett and AS-50 Why: Its just as bad as the DMR, except its insta-bone-break-death. And it tends to blow up vehicles too. It would be highly unrealistic to find these guns anyways as they aren't as common in the army as one may think. General Purpose Machine-guns: Nothing against them really, Except that in a survival situation you would almost definitely trade a 12 kg lump of steel for a nice light m4, or other rifle. M249 is even a better solution but not by a long shot at 10 kg. SCAR Series: Nothing against them. But i do know the USMC uses these guns but i have never seen them using them on any media footage. Besides id be happy with a bunch of 416's and m4's Now its on to the weapons I DO WANT to see in the game. I Will split this into 3 catagorys. Common (Or Civil), Military and Rare. COMMON: Pistols: Makarov: The Makarov was made by the masses during the cold war, its cheap, its reliable. And a descent self defense weapon for people who cant afford much. It will be a good weapon to find in the larger cities. Ammunition is fairly widespread in the ex-soviet bloc countries and is still made. Rugger MKIII / Similar Model This would be a nice handgun to pair with the 10/22 from rugger, cheap and commonly used in the sporting community. Shotguns: CZ 720 This shotgun is made by CZ, I dont know if its widely found but id assume it would look the part to be a civilian weapon in-game. Could fare well as being one of the rarer civilian weapons. Rifles: SMLE MKIII This will make a nice rare find in some farm houses. Ammunition would be rare. Could be modified by default to accept the PSU Scope. CZ 550 Well it does seem to be in the lore of the area, it definitely fits in with being a civilian gun. The gun could be compatible with the 8x scope already found in game. Hi-Point .45 and 9x19mm Carbine This will be a really cool weapon to have, Compatible with some attachments from the M4 currently in the game such as ACOG and Red dots. This could be one of the most sought after weapons in civilian areas. Im sure this gun comes as a pistol kit as well. So you could dismantle the attachments and reduce it to being a pistol. MILITARY: Pistols: Glock 17: Its just got to be in here, more or less it should be a police weapon. Found in police stations. It is used by many police forces and military organisations around the world. Its tried and tested. It has to be in the game! CZ-75 This weapon is really popular in the ex soviet block. Its commonly used by police forces as-well as some military organisations. Its beginning to find its way into the US and is becoming popular there too. This must be in the game! SIG SAUER P226 This is also a really popular weapon throughout the world. It is expensive, so id imagine if it were to be in the game it would be rare. Foot Note: Most of these pistols are capable of supporting attachments. Such as Suppressors and under barrel flashlights. Some even support extended magazines. SMG's MP5A6 And MP5 SD6 Used all around the world. Even in Russia, Id love for this to be in the game. Needs to include an optics rail though, the iron sights are horrible if they are the closed version. PP-2000 This weapon is rare and is only used officially in Russia. An idea i have for this smg, is that its as compact as a pistol and can fit into a 4 block space with its stock folded. Ideally a sought after smg. Compatible with most RIS rail attachments. Rifles AK Series (47 and 74 Possibly some rarer 100 series ak's) No brainer, They are everywhere. Probably more than the zombies at this point! TRG-42 Seems fitting that these could be found rarely in police stations. Used allot in the EU, Ammo should be rare. Rifle even rarer. SV-98 Feels like it should be in here. SVD Classic rifle, id love to see this in the game. Possibly a super rare weapon in barracks, or even houses. Its up for speculation. M24 Fairly Standard, Should Typically be rare. I like the weapon but im not fussed if its in or not. FN FAL Fairly uncomon. To give better use to the 7.62 round. Will make a good mid ranged rifle. Bushmaster ACR: Nice weapon, it will make a nice rare find. Rare: Purely My preference Pistols: TT-33: This would be an awesome find. Capable of penetrating light body armor. It will be definitely worth keeping. Can be found in any building due to its rarity. And probability that its someones keepsake. Glock 18C Wouldn't you want a bad-ass glock like this in game? Me Too!. Of course it wont come with all the attachments. SMG: PPSh-41 The image is enough. A smg on steroids. This will make anyone duck their heads. Kedr-PP91 KLIN This fuggly little guy fires at around 1000 rpm. Its the size of a standard pistol with its buttstock collapsed. Possibly another rare smg sought after for its compactness. it fires the common 9x18mm for the makarov. Giving more use to the round. HK MP5K Similar to the above, sought after for compactness and firepower. Can use most mp5 attachments for sights and silencers. Rifles: AN-94 ABAKAN This rifle is rare as it uses standard ak74 magazines and 5.45x39mm rounds. But also it has a two round burst at 1200 rpm. Effectively putting two rounds on exactly where you were aiming. Of course it will come with full auto too! AK-12 Just because. HK 416 - HK 417 I just like these rifles, and perhaps they could be better than the m4's? Who knows! AI AWM The ultimate bolt action of the game, it should be incredibly rare. Found in all houses due to some people using it as an target shooting rifle for extreme ranges. But more commonly found in army bases. ORSIS t-5000 Just looks like it should be rare. Looks kinda lightweight and compact. A pro to this rifle. As a footnote to the rare section, it would be essential that these weapons spawn with at least one magazine. Otherwise it would be utterly pointless in finding the weapon if it didn't have a magazine. On the other hand some weapons can use magazines from others such as the mp5k can use MP5 magazines and the AN-94 can use ak mags. Now im open to discussion and input is apreciated. If you have nothing constructive to post, for example ("ZOMG DMRS ARE ZE B3ST U CANT TAKE THEM OUT!") then you can just jog on.

But a bad simulation, look at other simulators where you manage something. Theme Hospital, Theme Park, Football Manager and compare it to this. There is nothing to do but driving slow vehicles to the marker. There is no insight on the things that really happen on an airport. All things he done would have happened simultaneously in real life. A good Simulator would you hire personal, build gates or the whole airport, buy equipment, plan flights, manage the runway. This game above is just bad.

this game is just slow and takes forever on purpose, driving tons of useless vehicles to this plane and parking it there is not fun, if he had personal coordinating that h being in charge it could be something better also no zombies, worse game ev0r