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I would say YES to vehicles, but on this stage of the game i will have to say no. My interest lays more into the camping tents which have to be back and the other mainfixes. Even tho vehicles wouldn't be that bad, aslong as they will be rare (maybe 30-50 per hive/server) and that the fuel will have to be hard to get (not just drive to a gasstation and there you go). But oh well, as i mentioned earlier.. it's too early to even think about vehicles, let's first cross our fingers for more weapons, More glitch/bug fixes and maybe the camping tents? x)

Yeah I need vehicles

Excellent! Hobo Bikes all the way!! I hope to see character interaction like that though with vehicles. It would be sweet to be able to put small packs, water, etc like shown on the first & second pictures. I find that it would also be neat to be able to attach things like bedrolls, pots & pans on the outside of your backpack eventually, giving rope a dual purpose!

Most definitely, OP. Bicycles need to be the first vehicles that they implement prior to vehicle patches. And they need to be EVERYWHERE. MOAR, MOAAAR!!!! *Insert Zoidberg Voice*

LOL. I just see a bunch of white bars. Is he STILL at it? Anyway, back to something I was going to bring up before: I wonder that nobody had any comments about what I said concerning vehicles back on page one. Anybody?

rare bicycles + rare cars + rare helicopters + rare trains + 150 player servers = common vehicles in general

Even once vehicles are implemented I think bicycles will be pretty rare. I'd get used to walking if I were you. xD

I agree. Personally, I think vehicles should either be non existent, extremely rare, or so complex as to require a large amount of team effort. I think they just make the game too easy. You don't have to "travel" anymore. No need to plan your route, worry about food or water for the trip (currently not a huge concern, but "alpha"),infiltrate, observe, loot, then leave, retreat to the tree line, and wipe the sweat off your brow. Now, we can just hop in the sedan and drive real fast down the road. Stop at the first town we happen to see. All the doors closed? Good. Loot loot loot. Drop everything into the trunk. Now on to the next... Further more, cars make the map too small. I can already cross the entire map, from end to end in a fairly short time. As far as the perks for donators goes, I kinda understand that one. Server owners have to give some kind of incentive to players to be willing to donate, and thus keep the server operational. They put a lot of effort into organizing events, private community websites, etc. I would know. Ran a BF3 platoon of just over 100 members. Took up a lot of spare time, and that was nothing compared to what some of these private communities require in terms of maintenance. Without that incentive, they either end up FORCING members to pay or leave (they usually just leave), or rely on donations that never come. In which case the bills don't get paid, the community dies, and all the effort goes down the drain.

Honestly, I don't want private servers like they have in the mod. Those ruined the mod. 1000 vehicles, military grade loot, perks for donating money, etc etc are just horrible. I'm quite content with the way servers are atm. I'd be fine with a little more server owner control, but nothing like the mod. The server hopping and combat logging need to become really hard to do though.

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Wish people stop askin for vehicles its stupid they are gonna be a looong ways off before they get to that point so asking now is plain dumb.

I'm pretty sure that Dean is going to make cars and vehicles in general pretty rare for some reason (I guess that's because he likes hiking so much) so how about adding some "smaller vehicles"? -Skateboards -Rollerskates -Kick scooters -Bicycles (obviously) All those could successfully shorten the travel time and be fairly common without disrupting game's survival concept.

Personally I am playing the game at the mo, but I'm not giving alot of time to it because I see that it has too many features missing. I don't mind this, I knew it was an alpha and I knew I'd have to wait a while more, but I just like seeing the game as it develops and that I contributed from the get go. I'll be playing it more in future when they sort out server issues as well as getting vehicles into the game. I'm hoping it will develop into a game I like, it may not. But I think Barbarosa1955 you're judging the game essentially at the moment as a skeleton with a few signposts of things to come. It's not broken or anything else others have been saying. What it is, is unfinished.

Ehem... I play on 3PP servers. I would love to see 3PP go away. That is not deceptive. Because I play on 3PP servers I actually have experience with all the exploits. Because I also play on 1PP servers I also know just how the game plays with the removal of those exploits. I can, from there, make an intelligent decision based off of experience and say that 3PP servers are worse than 1PP because of said exploits and it should, at the very least, be corrected in a manner that removes those exploits. Why do I play on 3PP servers? Well, because when I want to play say... an Epoch Dayz:Mod server without self-bloodbag/1,000 vehicles/trader safe zones on Taviana I can find exactly 0 1PP servers, but I can find a 3PP server. They ran out of cake and my options between "Cake or Death" is "...or Death". So I play on 3PP servers. If I get a little less extreme and accept AI missions and more vehicles on Chernarus I can find maybe 3 1PP servers but the pings are rather high for all of them. So again my option is "...or Death". So what do I do? I play on 3PP servers and deal with it. Basically having the option means there IS no other option for many of us. Maybe it would be nice if the other side of the coin was excluded a tiny bit for once, or they fixed the exploits so I didn't HAVE to play in 3rd person constantly to not be at a huge disadvantage since I can't seem to NOT play on a 3PP server.

I would like to see vehicles in DayZ get more complicated especially the aircraft. I have a few m8s who play the DCS games and they assure me that the avionics and flight mechanics in those games are a lot harder compared to the ArmA system. Seeing as how Mr Halls vision of DayZ is a harsh unforgiving anti game environment, it would be a step in the right direction to have at least the hardcore mode simulate something like the DCS system for aircraft. Make land based vehicles use a 3 pedal and gearshift system as well. I do believe that BIS has a working model that complicates the avionics and flight mechanics somewhat in their Take on Helicopters game. With all the great new systems they are putting in place for the infantry side of things and the survival side of things. Especially the implementation of a hardcore server version which removes the arcade style 3rd person view. An overhaul of the current anyone can drive and fly system in the ArmA2 engine should be looked at IMHO. An in game Book/Manual could be implemented that takes you through the start up system for the more complicated avionics of the helicopters and the flight mechanics etc. If they did this so that the new systems where on the Hardcore servers and leave it as is for the Casual servers they could once again cater to both sides of the coin. What ya think ?

I won't argue about the feasibility of training a bird, but it still involves training several times a week for years to accomplish. It's not like the bird will learn from you reading a book. It is too complicated to implement, and even unmanned aerial combat vehicles would be more feasible from a resource perspective in the apocalypse. Your dog will catch a stick and bark at strangers with little or no training at all.

DAYZ 'WOODO AND FRIENDS' HAS RETURNED ONCE AGAIN BUT THIS TIME IT'S EPOCH CHERNARUS SERVER IP: 216.185.103.153:3204 1GB DEDICATED SERVERAUSTRALIAN BASED - HOSTED IN SINGAPOREGREAT PINGNO LAG OR DELAY ON ANYTHING300 VEHICLES OF ALL KINDS24/7 UP TIME WITH A RESTART EVERY 3 HOURSACTIVE ADMINSBASE BUILDINGTRADER CITIESAI MISSIONSBANDIT AND HERO AI GROUPS PATROLLING CHERNARUS IN VEHICLES AND ON FOOTCUSTOM SCRIPTSMUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MORE NOW AND TO COME IN THE FUTURE

vanilla dayz mod, you can not. There is a mod of the mod Origins, There is some ability to armor vehicles. Epoch has some ability to add weapons to some vehicles.

I've noticed that certain issues like "Floating Loot" are listed as resolved in the bug tracker but they aren't resolved in game. I still see floating loot often. Also, as far as loot falling through floors, I placed an item on the floor of a one story building yesterday and it never reappeared but this issue is listed as resolved on the bug tracker. I'm just curious if anyone else is having these issues and if so why is the bug tracker inaccurate. I reported an issue (nesting of yellow carry cases) on there a week ago and it hasn't been listed as reviewed or even acknowledged. I think the dev team is doing an amazing job and I love the game, I'm just wondering how others feel about the system and looking for some feedback so I won't have to wonder how these issues are being addressed. I think if people had a clear idea of what it means to report a bug they may do more of that and less coming on the forums to say "OMG420yoloNOscope add vehicles m8!" EDIT: After digging further into the bug tracker, it is obvious that people are putting stuff in there that does not remotely belong there. Perhaps no one is assigned to work on it currently. Some of that stuff should be deleted. I saw that someone had asked a question "If I buy the game and don't like it can I have my money back?" That's not a bug people.

1) you should expect tons of hackers at this stage. I wouldnt worry about it 2) no vehicles/bases yet, thats the first thing. you can play in 2 hrs chunks BUT... I think your expectations are a bit wrong - you dont achieve anything in DayZ. You just survive or die. eventually you can get some gear which you are gonna lose sooner or later. this game IS about dying, man. embrace it :)

You can not make armored vehicles in DayZ mod. Moved to mod forum.

Don't you get that noone cares about your esoteric ways of pulling Dayz ears into the MMO sector. MMO - is MASSIVELY, 40 is not massively. None of the game MULTIPLY the amount of people on different servers, otherwise Dota 2 and Counter Strike would be the biggest MMOS out there. The fact that you so easily say "AH BATTLEFIELD IS NOT MMO DON"T BULLSHIT ME" ofc it's not and DAYZ NOT AS WELL. It's NOT an MMO, it has 40 players. When I log off there are map which gets resetted every 3 hours. Even ARMA II Dayz mod is more like an MMO because it has vehicles and tents which try to be there. GOD even DAYZ ORIGINS is more MMO than DayZ Stanadlone - you can build houses in DayZ Origins, you have world that changes and saves it's state(not gets resetted every 3 hours), you have 70 to 80 people in DayZ Origins. I can't get my money back. Steam does not allow me to. If I could I would have done this already and continued to play DayZ Origins or DayZero.

Yea, the clunkiness of the engine turns a surprising amount of people off. But the smoothness of the character movements and animations now have slightly improved that. However full judgment on whether the devs have managed to un-robotify the engine will be passed once more updates are released and vehicles come into play.

Well, yes and no. I'm certainly not ignorant as to why you might suggest such a thing, insofar as you might think James Byrd or those like him have been the only people to be dragged by vehicles until death. I must confess to some degree of ignorance about how you decided that those are the only people who have ever been killed in this manner, or that "dragging to death by vehicle" is somehow a tactic used only in the commission of hate crimes when, in fact, lots of people have died this way. I mean, MLK was shot by a gun. Does that mean everyone in the game who uses guns to kill people is a racist? In summary: I genuinely don't appreciate being called a racist. I've been trying to stay civil as often as possible on these forums, but under the circumstances I think it's perfectly reasonable for me to tell you to go fuck yourself, douchebag.

First of all dont get attached to your Gear. And what determines sever hopping? By that logic, there should not be a HIVE Yeah, maybe you would be happier if DayZ were only played survival purists, but is not, and by the way I'm not an idiot cod kid. I bought original Operation Flashpoint in 2001 and all the Arma series and have an account on the BI Forums since 2002. And I know the engine limitations and it doesnt look good, but I got the game none the less and so did my squad. Listen I get you, really I do, but you want to play by the book and impose that style to the community, you just have to accept all the KOS is because the survival, camps, crafting and vehicles are not yet implemented. There is nothing else besides combat worth doing at the moment.