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This has been confirmed. From what I've heard (Rumors) they haven't even started modelling the vehicles yet.

The mod will also familiarize you with the game (Unless you've ever played Arma). Even with SA, I don't think it will be as populated as the original mod at first due to all the bugs. I also heard in the SA alpha they won't have vehicles at first for a while? I don't know if that's true or not.

You need admin tools which are essentially hacks, your best bet is to go on other servers and look what admin tools they use. The only other way is to add weapons etc to your character via the database, and with a worldspace location/s you can spawn vehicles in, but this requires a restart everytime.

Welcome to APT Dayz Epoch Panthera server! IP: 62.210.203.197:2342 Title: [APT Clan] DayZ Epoch Panthera |AI Missions|300 Vehicles|Auto Refuel|God Mod Traders|No Bag Stealing|Self Bloodbag|Indestructible Bases|Active Admins|No Lag | Vilayer.com How to play Epoch Panthera: Download Dayzcommander and install it. Go to install/update and download last version of Dayz Epoch. You need to go here http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=7467 and download the file on the bottom Island Panthera. Inside should be a folder named @panthera, extract to the same location of the other maps eg: Steam Games/SteamApps/common/Arma 2 Operation Arrowhead/ After that, on Dayzcommander go to settings and bellow "Additional Launch Parameters" copy and past this : -mod=@panthera;@DayZ_Epoch Click Done on the bottom and you are ready to go! Admin Team: Caganamata MadFrozen

- Low cost base building materials. - No building plot is required to build. - 300+ Vehicles. - Animated Heli Crashes. - Self Bloodbag. - 100% Safe Traders. - Lift and Tow Vehicles. - Custom Debug Monitor. - Flip Vehicles. - Added custom buildings at NEAF and Balota. - Active Admins. - Every 3 hour restarts. (countdown in debug monitor) - Database backup every hour.

Well if this guy actually has 1500 vehicles on his server. It will.

Don't bother. Do it here... http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/153894-dg-pvp-mp5sd-spawn-autorefuel-1500-vehicles-towhelilift-novylugbase-nvgs-dg/

Hello all. We have just started a new epoch server running 1.0.3.1. Anyone that joins in the next 24 hours will get an awesome load-out!! Server Hardware/Network Specs: CPU Type : Dual Intel Xeon E5-2620CPU Speed : 12 Core @ 2GHz +HTServer Memory : 48 Gigabytes RAMNetwork : 1gbit Dedicated Connection Server Information:TBGClan.com 900+ Vehicles DayZEpoch Chernarus - (1.0.3.1/103718) [Regular][GMT-5] DayZ.st50 slot server. No Lag issues. Head Admin = -[TBG]- AnalGrape -[TBG]- imfromnz Any age is welcome on the Dayz Server.Team speak information available at TBGClan.com for anyone over the age of 18. Please Come and join us. We would love to see you on! Thank you! :D :D :D

There will be gun customization, as well as tags/patches/vehicles. Not in release, but a confirmed feature. The only kind of anything I'm interested in, as far as you're asking, is ghillie shrouds.

[RC] Rape-Cage [RC] About Us We are a basic clan/group,We play Day-Z Epoch a lot.Which is based off of our Clan/Group,We do have fun times most of the time,But when doing something for the clan or server,We take it serious.We also are a Military based clan,Some ranks are removed for a easier approach for people who don't know the rankings,And much easier to understand. We also have a server that we play on ALOT. Please do join too. Server IP : 198.154.118.36:4020 Clan-Missions Our Clan has missions that we do based off and on our current epoch server.We are well armed and battle ready for anything thrown at us. Bounty MissionA player doesn't really like another player,They know what to do call us in and of course providing a payment and we will take them out till they are done.Or maybe the player is messing with the clan,No words needed to be said for that. Clan VS Clan MissionOur clan versus another clan no big deal,We'll smoke them anyways. Clan VS Group MissionMight be a group overpowering our server,We'll take care of them. And More Ranks and Jobs Ranks Private - A Basic Clan Member. Corporal - A Higher Ranked Clan Member. Sergeant - A Higher Ranked Clan Member,Has a higher power of say over Privates and Corporals. Captain - A High Ranked Clan Member,A Higher power than Sergeants,Corporals and Privates,Is a assistant of Majors. Major - A High Ranked Clan Member,A Higher power than Captains,Sergeants,Corporals and Privates,They are allowed in meetings with Colonels and Generals.Is a assistant to Colonels. Colonel - A Very High Ranked Clan Member,A Much Higher power than Majors,Captains,Sergeants,Corporals and Privates. General - The Highest you can go into the clan,Has the highest power over all ranks. Jobs Basic Infantry - Basic Soldier Uses Assault Rifles Heavy MG - Heavy Gunner Uses Heavy Machine Guns Sniper - Sniper That Uses Basic Sniper Rifles Elite Sniper - High Deadly Cobra Sniper Using High Powered Sniper Rifles Medic - Carries Medical Needs Always Carries Basic Rifle Engineer - Keeps up making sure all vehicles are nice and cleaned up Carries basic rifle Pilot - Pilots Clan Members and allies to any area designated Carries Basic Rifle Looter - Loots up towns for food and items.Carries Basic Rifle Chef - Keeps clan updated on how much food we have.Carries Basic Rifle R.A.P.E. SQAUD Member - Elite Soldiers that are to be needed with Infantry,Always take lead,Never leaves a enemy alive,All weapons allowed Security - Watches base while no one is at base,Carries a stunning weapon,Such as a FnFal Recruiting Officer - A Officer Ranked By General Or Higher To Recruit Players To Clan Members Commanding Officer - A Commander Of Certain Squads Commander - Basic Commander that keeps clan up to shape, Must be ranked by General Of The Army.Weapon choosen by himself/herself Council Member - A Member Of The Council That Agrees On Ideas Or Rules In The Clan,Basically A Adminstrative Part Of The Clan.Also Made To Stop People Complaining Of Who's The Leader Of The Clan And All Of That Stuff.We don't want a "dictator" so we have a "democracy" you could say How To Join UsPM Me on here Find Me On Steam : NateDaBeast Team-speak 3 Server (Poke Someone To Be Moved Saying "I want to join the clan/group"): ts3.gtxgaming.co.uk:1005 Or Join Our Day-Z Epoch Server :198.154.118.36:4020 MUST Fill Out A Application Below: Application Name: Username: Skype Username Or Teamspeak3 Username: Age: Timezone: Rank ( List Why ) : Job ( List Why ) : Why Do You Want To Join Rape-Cage :

Hello All Day-Z Players, We are a Day-Z Epoch Cherno Server,We currently have lots of scripts and editing on the server making it a 1700 KB Download, We promise you'll have a great time and enjoy playing. We welcome all kinds of players ranging from casual players,bandits,heroes etc. whatever you would please to call yourself we allow it ! Except Cheaters/Hackers ! You can bring a Group or Clan onto the server as well ! We have our own Clan/Group too called Rape-Cage. If you would like to join our Clan/Group Please do go onto our Team-speak 3 server or on our website or this link and apply ! Our Server,Team-speak 3 And Website Info Our Day-Z Epoch Server IP: 198.154.188.36:4020 Or Search Up [RC]On DayZ Commander Team-Speak 3 Server IP: ts3.gtxgaming.co.uk:1005 Website http://rapecage.enjin.com/ Features -800+Vehicles We Have Up To 800+ Vehicles Spawning on The server,Usually rounded up this is the total Cars : 370 Cars Air : 90 Air Vehicles Tanks : Tanks are a work in progress for them to spawn in.Currently only able to purchase them from traders. So total is 500 Estimated vehicles on server depends on how many players are on,But otherwise highest is 800 or higher -Vehicle Flip Don't you hate it when you go to fast escaping from those bandits or brain-eating zombies ? then your vehicle just flips over maybe even a your helicopter ? Well we hate it to so now you can flip vehicles over from just scrolling and clicking "Turn over Vehicle" -Safe-Zones At Traders Everyone hates spending your gold or whatever on a item or vehicle you want then next thing you know they either get stolen or blown up even you get shot.So we prevented that with a bigger radius at Traders so you don't get shot ! Also you can backpack steal too ! -Custom AI Missions Our AI Missions are different from most others.All because of the EMS AI Mission script.Ranging up to 20 different times of AI missions.You will be rewarded for the mission you do.That is a promise.The vehicles will disappear when you get them from AI Missions,Which we are trying to fix.So don't take them they will disappear. -Towing And Heli Lifting Everyone hates it when you have two vehicles but its just you or more vehicles than people with you, So now you can tow your vehicles and also Helicopter lift them. Not all Helicopters work with lifting. -Sarge AI We have Sarge AI on our server.They have great loot and are not hard to kill nor to easy to kill,Just right unless they glitch up which does happen sometimes. -Auto-Refuel We have a Auto-Refuel script that allows you to roll up to a gas station and some gas tanks,And scroll and auto refuel your vehicle,For helicopter you land by or on top of gas stations to auto refuel -Custom Buildings We have many many multiple buildings on the map for looting all the way to a place to make a base.Also making the map look nice :) -And Many More We have many scripts on our server for your enjoyment.So please do join and venture through learning more about them. Server Rules We do not allow discrimination! Anyone abusing glitches or using any form of hacking will achieve the great achievement of being Kicked or Banned :)! We do not allow combat-logging so if you do , Once you log back in you will be knocked out for a regular time basis as if a zombie knocked you out! Have Fun ! Everyone else does,So don't ruin it for everyone else :) Website http://rapecage.enjin.com/ Other Enjoy the server and please do add our server to your favorites,And tell your friends and feel free to stream or make videos :),Please put our IP in the description or however you want to if streaming.

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Hello all Gamers4Fun started a new Dayz Epoch server come and check us out maybe you like it Server IP 195.154.241.14:2302 Features Self Blood Heli lift Vehicle Towing Salvage Vehicle Custom Clan bases Custom Military Bases Custom Spawn Menu AI Patrol / Missions Extra Vehicles Extra Buildings Indestructible Bases PlotPole Zombie killer Anti Hack Server IP 195.154.241.14:2302 Website URL http://Dayz.Gamers4fun.nl SERVER RULES 1. If a base is left unlocked and open, you can go into said base and steal any gear or vehicle left unlocked or open. 2. You are not allowed to destroy locked vehicles and storage buildings INSIDE a base. It will result in a ban (IF THE PLAYERS ARE ONLINE, AND INSIDE THEIR BASE BEING ENGAGED, and their vehicles and or storage buildings are blown up from the crossfire, it is acceptable.) 3. Trader Cities Starry, Bash, Keln and Donator are SAFE ZONES. If caught camping the roads out of Trader Zones, it could lead to a kick or ban. Starry, Bash, Klen and Donator, are the only trader zones with god mode enabled on them, the others you go to at your own risk. 4. Stealing from players in trader cities will result in an immediate ban if caught and shown proof 5. You are allowed to build bases in any location you desire except for the following - YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO BUILD IN cities, factories, or on the airfields. if you do decide to build in close proximity to the military base, we are not responsible for any damages to anything inside your base, you build near it at your own risk. 6. You are not allowed to build any items to block another players base doors, vehicles, safes, or sheds. They will be removed and the person that placed them will be banned, no warnings will be issued. (and yes, we can see who places the walls / buildings.) GENERAL RULE FOR ALL G4F SERVERS 1. Utilize our command structure. If you have problems inside the game, take it to a G4F member first. All G4F members have G4F tags. If the G4F member is unable to help you, THEY will take it to the next higher, a Moderator to have them handle the issue. If the Moderator is unable to fix the problem or issue, the Moderator will then take it to the Admins. The only time that it is acceptable to go straight to the Admin is if there is a confirmed hacker on the server. Any other things that are taken to an Admin without taking the proper steps will be ignored by the Admin and if it occurs more than once it could lead to a kick from the server / ts. Multiple reprimands will lead to a Ban. 2. Talking on the MIC on Global and Side Chat will not be permitted. First Offense - Warning will be issued Second Offense - Kick will be issued Third Offense - Ban will be issued 3. Stream Sniping or using someones stream to gain intel on them is strictly forbidden and will result in a ban if shown proof if you are caught stream sniping on all current and future servers. 4. Racism will NOT be tolerated on any of our servers. 5. Trolling will NOT be tolerated - (for example, a guy came into ts and asked me if i could take a survey for his class. i said sure, he started asking me questions about landing on the moon for the first time three weeks ago, then about the watergate scandal and nixon getting impeached last week.) long story short, he was banned fromt he TS server. If anyone has someone that comes in and tries to troll you in that sort of manner,. contact an admin or mod immediately. 6. Immaturity is not an excuse for breaking any rules. We do not have age restrictions on our servers, but act Mature and you wont have any problems.

Hey everybody I’ve been a DAYZ player ever since the alpha and i have feel in love with EPOCH. there is a new server i have found that has currency base building new weapons new vehicles, you know the works. at the moment we are a kind of small players we have about 8 people on regularly, we are looking for PLAYERS. we have a team speak address 98.250.186.181 The leader of the is Smoke. he is a friendly active admin and he will help you with any problem you have. The Server is called TSH. there is a lot of friendly people who will help you get on your feet and survive. the IP is 192.254.71.229:4040. THERE ARE ALSO NEW BUILDING AND BASES

Day #19 Yet again I find myself on the coast with nothing. The gods quickly remedy the irritation by offering me the ultimate in bambi troll material: tank traps and a toolbox to place them. I took both before heading for the airfield to check for some weapons. As I approached, a little bambi wannabe bandit started shooting at me. His aim was off by a bit, so I started approaching him and zigzagging, while tightly gripping my axe. Alas, the little bambi found his aim soon enough, pulling full automatic at close range. I dropped to the floor with a faint smile. On the next respawn I found I now had the body of a girl. Perhaps something went wrong with the black magic ritual, but for now, this was my form. I checked the airfield and headed to Cherno, where Tipsy and crew said they'd found a Little Bird parked on top of the town hall. Covered by the team, I checked the helicopter. It was completely broken, but not unfixable. My years as a leasure pilot had taught me to fix these kinds of aircraft. I almost fell to my death when I exited the helicopter on the wrong side: A few hours later I had fixed the helicopter and flew it over to the fuel pad of the military hospital to refuel: After the long and tedious task, we finally had an operational helicopter! Tipsy boarded the chopper and I flew us far north, in search of bases and hidden vehicles. And sure enough, on the north-eastern corner of the known map, on a hill: Tipsy was afraid to fly the Huey, since the engine wasn't in the best of states, so we left the helicopter for what it was and headed west across the northern part of the map. Tipsy noted a small light vehicle on the north-western corner of the map, which I shortly thereafter acknowledged. We landed and found a small camp with a beige UAZ and two tents. The tents and the car contained some really good weapons: MK48's Mod 0's, M40A3, M4A3 CCO SD and lots of other stuff. We raided the camp and using our newfound toys, the machineguns, riddled the UAZ with holes until it burned. Flying over an industrial compound, I spotted something very rare: A yellow URAL truck by a building. After landing, we found it was missing two wheels, one of which was in the truck. The camp we had just raided contained the other wheels, which we used to fix the truck. Tipsy hid it nearby and requested to be flown back to the Huey we found, detouring through Polana factory. We arrived at the Huey and I helped Tipsy get it operational, before saluting him as he took off. I boarded my own little bug and flew back to refuel: Unfortunately, the auto-hover malfunctioned(never trust automatic technology), sending my helicopter crashing when I tried to lift off. Fortunately, it didn't explode, but the fuel leaked out almost immediately, bringing the bird to the same state that I found it in Cherno. I used the time until the server restart to play around with my M9, enjoying its looks: After the server was back, I headed out to get the URAL that Tipsy hid earlier, figuring it would be my best chance to find some industrial parts at the North West Airfield: As I approached the airfield through the forest, I noticed a military UAZ hidden in a tree. Checking the gear I found nothing of real use to me, but a vehicle like this is often owned by bandits, so I used my Mk48 to blow the car to smithereens and quickly headed out: Tipsy messaged me that he and the rest of his crew had just died to a helicopter crash at the camp we were earlier, due to once again, the autohover malfunctioning. I headed out to pick up their gear and bring it back to them: The URAL had little fuel, which, combined with my chosen route down to the coast, proved to be a rather dumb choice: I ran out of fuel inches from a road and radioed in for some help with fuel. KJ, the alleged hacker clan from Day #15, responded that they might have some fuel for me. Meanwhile, Tipsy and his crew came back and got their gear from the truck, planning on setting up an ambush on KJ once they came to my rescue. After threatening with the belt, they backed off and went on their way. KJ had almost made their way to me, when they got ambushed and massacred. I still had no fuel, and no chances of getting any help now, so I left the truck and went to get some fuel myself: As I ran towards Kamenka, I spotted this duo of a hero chasing a bandit with an axe: They approached me and suddenly, the bandit pulled his silenced sidearm and shot me in the head, quickly dropping me. I respawned at Kamenka, as fate would have it, I was a man again. But just as I started running towards my URAL again...: I slowed down to a walk and started walking to my death like a man as the group spotted me. Armed with my weapons, they surrounded me, but didn't shoot. We started talking. Pretty soon I found out that this rag-tag group was, in fact, KJ, who had come to help me. They returned my weapons and apologized for my death, clarifying it as a mistake. With my Mk48 and M4A3 CCO SD returned, I headed back for my truck, as KJ radioed in that they were still planning on bringing fuel to me. A few minutes later I heard the rumble of a boat next to me, and the KJ clan joined me on my way to the URAL. Once there, I refueled it with one jerry can and we all headed to Komarovo to get further fuel: Once there, KJ decided they were afraid of the rats that infested the area and took refuge on the truck, shaking in fear: They finally agreed to come back into the truck once I was done fueling it. We headed to Zelenogorsk, as per their request. Quite literally, we were riding into the sunset: I dropped KJ off by the supermarket and headed off as they needed no further help. On the URAL radio, a call for help came in from one Mantas, promising weapons in exchange for a pickup. Reluctant at first I went to pick him up anyway. A short time later, Mantas and I met. He was hungry and cold, so I offered him a ride in my truck, which I convenietly named 'Tommy'. We drove on to Polana factory to get some parts for my Little Bird, when we came across a military UAZ in perfect condition. Taz the UAZ was born: Mantas and I headed further, when he spotted a heli crash site to our left. I noted the crash as well and drove to it, but somehow I couldn't see Mantas, and he couldn't see me. We wondered what the disrepancy was, until I noted that I found something at the crash site that Mantas was sure he couldn't see. Only then did we realize that we were, in fact, looting two separate crashsites, not 200m from each other, thinking it was just one. The mystery of our invisibility was solved! After picking up the guns and ammunition from the crash sites (MK 48 Mod 0, M24, M249, 20 STANAG, 10 STANAG SD, NVG, M14 AIM) we headed to the factory to refuel: And we left in our little convoy for Berezino to get some medical supplies: After we were done getting medical supplies, Mantas said goodbye after one last photo: He drove off to hide Taz and I drove away with Tommy. Hiding him in the forest, I requested a lookout for it, so it might not be stolen. Time to go sleep and hope Tommy will be there the next morning:

Hey Community, we startet a new Epoch Chernarus Server. We use the Bex Epoch pack and modified it. On our Server you´ll find some nice features: - sarge Ai - Missions - Sector (hard but nice loot) [;)] - anti Backpackstealing in Trader zones - new Trader - safe Trader zones - self bloodbag - tow / lift but not all vehicles and all helis can do it! - new vehicle - 32 Slots - auto refuel - Indestructible Bases - more Helicrash Sites - more Vehicles - Beginning is easier because the Server is NEW and more! We hope you come to our Server and have fun on it! 85.131.202.93:2302 thanks PpS-Clan

14/12/2013 - FPS drops from planes and choppers fixed - For the last couple of dayz patches there have been horrific clientside FPS drops, if for example you are in a city full of zombies and a plane or chopper flies over. I've looked at the changes in the dayzmod 1.8.1 test patch and merged some of them to fix the problem on our server. Zombies will no longer agro on air vehicles.

weve got alot of people already playing from the old taviana server, we recently switched ip and then changed the map all together cause taviana was getting a bit old. So NEW MAP MORE FUN We really want to get more players on our server, the server is running excellent right now. We are a really nice and active community. Most of the people logon Teamspeak everyday and play together! Come and have some fun! Come join us @ IP : 5.153.13.117 PORT : 3391 Teamspeak ip : ts63.gameservers.com:9177 MODS THAT HAVE BEEN ADDED Custom loot spawns More guns, more skins! Towing+lifting Self Bloodbag Indestructable bases Missions Extra vehicles Custom buildings added to the map Admin events Halo jump TO JOIN PANTHERA EPOCH DOWNLOAD LATEST PANTHERA MAP AND ADD THIS TO YOUR LAUNCH PARAMETERS -mod=@DayZPanthera;@DayZ_Epoch Enjoy! we got really active admins and a fun community. And we hope to add you to it! see you soon!

First of all, not everyone KOS's. On public hive, I'm a hero, and I only KOS bandits. Second of all, most people who get KOS'd, have it coming to them.. If the objective is to survive, you do not hang around Cherno/Elektro/NWAF all day then wonder why someone eventually shot you. If you want to survive, you take less traveled routes and get yourself geared up.. You also make wise decisions about approaching situations. Thirdly, a plethora of Mods and heavily scripted servers where you spawn with weapons, have 1000 vehicles, or otherwise ARE NOT A PUBLIC HIVE, encourage deathmatch playstyle. Finally, because at it's core DayZ is still a first person SHOOTER and in order to SHOOT you have to have a TARGET, and if you see someone as a TARGET you don't stop and talk to them in order to construe a reason as to why you should or should not shoot them. That's far too risky. As I said above, I play on Public hive as a hero, and I only shoot Bandits.. but if it was not for KOS bandits, then guess what? I would have no targets and I would get bored and stop playing the game..or I'd go play battlefield or CS or some other FIRST PERSON SHOOTER. And, to conclude: Stop making KoS threads. They're fucking old. Nobody cares. Go play another game. OR at the very least, play on Vanilla servers where the KOS rate is a fraction of what it is on private hive.

I would have agreed with you a year ago. The thought that somebody could squirrel away an AS50 or DMR and be back in the fight without significant work was distasteful. Then I started running my own server and saw the little fuckers hacking and cheating their way through the game. Teleporting to tents and vehicles and ruining people through unscrupulous actions. You can't stop cheating or hacking in a game... that's reality. Being able to protect your gear while offline is a way to combat it.

Ruthless Toothless will be running its first ever weekly event tomorrow Dec 14th at 7 pm pst (west coast) time. The event will be a Manhunt. The hunted will be carrying 8 full briefcases and an extremely rare weapon as well as supplies and ammunition. He will start on the Northern tip of the big island and will travel by foot to the racetrack on the small island.Along the way he will update his position via waypoints and if engaged will return fire. As he starts to run low on ammo and supplies he will scavenge the cities or kill the ai for their gear. intel reports ai heli patrols will be grounded in observance of shomer shavis which will give players freedom of the sky's for the first time. Whoever takes him out will be allowed to keep all loot as well as pick a vehicle from a list of 5 vehicles that do not normally spawn into the server.Hope to see you there. Tune in next week for Sabina Tank Wars.... More to follow.

Chaos Vanguard Who are Chaos Vanguard? We are currently a new clan founded on the 31st of August by the founders Oreo and Lynxx. We focus on a variety of games such as Nether, League of Legends, Infestation: Survivor Stories and many others. We are expanding our clan as it's growing and we want to involve as many people as we can to have a fun experience when they play with us. We currently have bought an Epoch server included with several custom scripts to enhance your enjoyment on our server, as it is all up to us to keep it maintained as Epoch isn't supported for Taviana so a lot of work goes into keeping this server stable for you to have an enjoyable Experience. Server Information: ts: 78.157.201.51:10002 Web: www.thechaosvanguard.shivtr.com IP: 5.9.85.103:2352 Server Details: 150+ Vehicles Indestructable Bases Supply Drops Custom Traders Extra Barracks Self BloodBag Remove Clothes Sleep In Tent 18 hours day Anti Hacks Active Non Abusive Admins Feel free to come and join us we are friendly and we highly recommend PVP and tactical realism in fights. We welcome bandits, netural and heroes and if you have any other questions feel free to pop into our teamspeak and poke an admin or me ( Angry ) Division leader of Dayz. Hope to see you on!

The Epoch crafting system, in my opinion, is perfect. And if you could some how impliment craftable survivior vehicles it would be amazing.The level system would probably need some tweeking. Something that can steer away the pure "shoot on sight" mentallity. That is another thing that I mentioned the traders need to have a smaller, not unlimited stock and more limited market for stuff to make hoarding a lot harder. The safes and locks in brokes need to be able to be broken into!!!!! There should be something that you can find or buy for a high price that allows you to make an attempt at cracking safes and picking locks on doors. Or make it possible to break down doors without completely destroying somebodys base. I like the input guys keep it coming! :lol: :D :thumbsup:

On topic: There are too many different mods of this mod to give you accurate answers on all of them. I'll hit the three I have played more than others. Breaking Point - LOTS OF GUNS. No seriously there are almost too many guns in this mod. It also has Bloodsuckers. Most major loot spots have a Bloodsucker that spawns in the area and the longer you are in the area the greater chance it will spawn. It will hunt you down to the ends of the earth and is tough. Last time I played they were still rather buggy and I was killed in a chopper because one attacked my friend on the ground and the damage applied to me somehow. This mod really is a bit more PVP set up as guns are easy to find as are multiple types of Ghillie suits and armed vehicles. There are placed that spawn military loot but no zombies making finding decent guns fairly easy... once you have a chopper. They have Hive servers like Vanilla Epoch - Private servers which means that the owners can add whatever they want so a good deal of them are Self Blood Bag 1000+ vehicles but if you find a good one without all that crap it can be just as hard as Vanilla. The nice things are that you can actually reasonable store some items. At times I think they went too far but in general you can't store too much. They have put a lot of thought into causing you to want to interact with something other than other players and military spawn points. Origins - Whole new map. You can construct player housing which is the same for everyone and isn't easy to break into. There is also a background story to it if you did want to explore that. Wandering AI helicopters fly patterns over parts of the map and will kill you... trust me on this. Zombies are a bit harder and take much more damage from head shots. It has a "leveling" system based of humanity which can be rewarding and frustrating all at the same time. There is an AI island with some of the best loot in the game but you basically need to assault it as a squad to get anywhere. Were I you I would play Vanilla. If you start to grow bored with that then try a different flavor and don't be afraid to come back to vanilla as it might be fresh again after trying something a bit different.

See but I am actually using it to survive. The locations I tend to pick for bases are all about survival first. Do animals spawn nearby? Check. Is there a water source nearby? Check. Is it in a location that is well hidden and/or hard to shoot me while I am in it? Check. The difference is I tend to be focussed on long term survival and not just day to day survival. It gives me a goal. Like R4ZOR49 said it isn't better, it is different. There is a lot of appeal to having a goal beyond, "Run to Stary and loot tents, loot Grocery Store, and then IGNORE EVERY OTHER BUILDING IN STARRY." :) I prefer it because it encourages me to engage zombies who drop loot you can't get any other way. It encourages me to hit buildings and loot spawns because it is the only place to get some things that are useful. It encourages me to set up a series of small goals and follow through on them. Step one: Find basic gear and a basic weapon. Pistol, Shotgun, Enfield, Map, Compass, Matches, Hatchet, Crowbar, Tool Kit. Step two: Find better gun, food and drink, crap vehicle to move around in. Step three: Loot while making my way to a trader. Grab items that sell for a bit more throw extra guns in the vehicle Step four: Buy a vehicle (typically an ATV to start with then eventually a Camo SUV but a Mozzie can be useful if more difficult to hide) Step five: Scout out a safe area of the server not already being used to place a small base Step six: Buy a Safe and start gathering building materials, maybe upgrade vehicles slowly Step seven: Save up for a plot pole have all my items crafted and ready to set up Step eight: Cross fingers and set up the plot pole then all the base items I prepared, try not to get killed because that will require me to rip down the plot pole and start again Step nine: Enjoy your labor... if you get bored find a new server and start over During the whole process, especially steps 5-7 I am having to hit many different locations and types of buildings. I hit Farm spawns, Industrial spawns, Military spawns, and some Residential spawns. Farm Spawns give me lumber but I could just chop down trees, or a chainsaw which makes cutting down trees and making Lumber a breeze but is a rare spawn that requires 2 cycle oil to mix with fuel so I need the residential spawns to get that. I also need Sledge Hammer from that to craft certain things. Industrial Spawns give me cinderblock and mortar which I will probably eventually want as well as tank traps, wire kits, scrap metal, and vehicle parts I can use to fix up a vehicle or turn into scrap metal. Fixing up and selling vehicles can help me earn the money I need so I always keep an eye out for good ones and carry around a few things to get them running again. Military Spawns are obvious but they also yield duplicate guns that sell for a good amount and get me closer to buying a plot pole or other needed thing. I need to SHOOT zombies to get things like lockboxes, sledgehammer heads/handles, briefcases, and most importantly Combination Locks. So instead of just looping around and running them through buildings I engage them and loot their corpses. So the the thing that Epoch does that I think the SA doesn't encourage is it encourages me to enter different buildings and interact with zombies. That is on top of making me canvas the map for bases, supply drops, Helicopter crashes, and mass graves. Stand alone has some better systems for inventory and such and has added some nice things. It needs more tweeks but it has it's own benefits that Epoch and others lack.