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didnt Mean Not FInd Just it Wont Be the only thing you Find ^_^ am From a Rural Area So Whats Available Most Common is Usually Like Barn Reds Navy Blues and Similar I Assume Chenarus Would Be Similar Since it is Rural Farming Towns But Still For every Store Usualy Has at Least 1-3 Cans Stock of all Colors And extra Boxes of the Basic Tones/Neutral Colors and Many Peoples Houses/Sheds would Most Likely Have Cans of Basics To Cover up Patches of Missing Paint on old Vehicles to Protect the Metal or to Paint over Patches of Siding that Need it And so on

Because he talks about vehicles a lot? Just curious as to what in this video was your great revelation into development that has given you the confidence that you lacked before?

hahaa Not Maybe Painting With Shapes But Painting Solid Panels I think is Possible For Bases and Vehicles And Signs Perhaps Like Writing Notes But Visable in Game Like on Cardboard But in a Spray-paint Font And True Weird Colors are Rarer to Own irl so Makes Sense to Be rare in Game too I Dont want to only Find Bright Lime and Shiney Gold Cans but Maybe Be Some Commons you would See Reds/Blues/Greens/Tan/Black/Grey/Brown/White/Olive And Yeah Camo Doesn't always Mean You Want to Kill People Bet Heavily Implies you Are Accounting For Hostile Encounters Is How i Meant By Using to Kill or Have Conflicts Meaning you Heavily Account for this in your PlayStyle Makes me think You Are an Experienced Combatant or Expect a Fight one way or the other which Does Make Me Weary to Trust or Make Contact that's How i Meant

Which Makes it Less Need for only Black and Green than Fighting People Zombies Dont Discriminate Why Bother with only Camo unless your Planning to Kill and Have Conflicts with People? Cant Hide From Zombies in DayZ their Eyes Are Superior to Hawks and they Can Smell us through the Walls it Seems xD anyway Not Bright But Some Colors Would Be Nice Especially Once you Can Paint Vehicles and Base Parts or Signs If those Are Added Not Just Helmets and Guns But Even So i Would Probably Do a Helmet With Some Color Not Neon Pinks or Anything But Deep Red and Black Combos or Such Could Be Cool and Totally Something i would do IRL Make My Helmet Match My RedPunk Boots

More zombies and I think make them a little more dangerous as well. One screaming sprinting zombie should attract others, for example. But I think the people shooting people on the beach will be taken care of when it's not so easy to sit on the beach and shoot people. A few ways I think/hope this will happen. Hunger. Hunger will be a real threat in the finished game. Desease and illness. The risks for this are gonna be high. You eat some smelling food or drink some stagnant water without purifying it you will get sick. And sickness will kick your fucking ass. You will drop everything you don't need cause you're too exhausted to carry them. You got shot and didn't pull that bullet out and disinfect the wound? You just got sick. You shot someone and stole their loot without paying attention to them? You just got sick cause that person had diarreaha and you haven't disinfected that loot. Sickness should be a really really bad situation to be in. Alone your chances of survival will be slim. Ammo will be rare, getting into a firefight will be a tough decision when all you have is 3 mosin rounds and a pistol mag. There will also be things to work towards like fortifying a house to store your loot and rest. If you get sick and have a place to rest you're chances of survival will be higher. than if you where sleeping outside in the wild. And fixing cars, when you find a car you are gonna spend DAYS fixing that shit and lots of time keeping it running as well. You wont be fueling at the nearest fuel station any more, you'll be siphening car tanks and searching for jerry cans. fixing a car wont be a simple "find wheel, find engine parts, go" anymore, there will be different parts for different types of vehicles, a bus wheel wont fit your motorbike. A motorbike engine part wont fit your hatchback. Hunting will be a big factor too because it will be a good source of food, setting snares and traps about the woods to regularily check, or hunting deer and cow. Though this creates another threat, what if someone finds your snares and waits for you to come collect your food? You just got sniped and are now being cut of to feed that group of bandits.

It can't be argued by the fact that it's alpha, because it's already being claimed to be permadeath right now. This isn't like vehicles, where they say they will be added. They claim it's already in the game, and it simply isn't. So yes, Rocket is wrong and while it's not the end of the world by any stretch, people fall into this misinformation and perpetuate a weird notion that simply isn't supported by any actual evidence beyond Rocket simply stating something. "They are adding permadeath bit by bit." There's been no work in this direction at all thus far. Maybe it will come, but the fact that they are already claiming it to be permadeath and making no effort after 10 months to actually make it so, implies to me that they truly believe they're using the correct terminology already for something that simply isn't accurate.

b]Updated: 05/10/14 All Servers Specific: Added: Buying stuff at traders no longer uses animations, instead it uses a yes/no menu. Added: Clicking cancel, when choosing item quantity at traders, now cancels instead of buying/selling 1. Fixed: Misc bug and exploit fixes. Updated: 24/09/14 Updated: 26/09/14 All Servers Specific: Added: Respray Vehicles. (Selected vehicles available.) Added: Added traders for Overwatch items instead of the same trader as Epoch items. Fixed: Errors and organized alot to make load times better. Updated: 24/09/14 All Servers Specific: Added: Tradermenu now displays item in list with pictures after clicking them. Added: Murdermenu and Humanity menu available at infostands in traders. Added: !pm/!privatemessage command added! You can now send PMs to other players. Added: !event and !leaveevent commands redone, bugs fixed with gear and gold save. Added: AI will only drop their gear -IF- you shoot them, running them over = no gear. Added: AI now have varying difficulty, can have up to 2000 cash on them! Added: New bandit/hero missions, allowing you to gain humanity or lose humanity. Added: Crates will smoke (or light up at night) when completed. Added: Added a new trade system, you can now enter the amount you want to buy/sell! Added: Currency Section to the banktrader instead of building supplies. Fixed: Hud alignment for smaller resolutions. Fixed: Fixed problems when giving player coins, cleaner message to sender and receiver. Fixed: Cleaned up some tradercode and organized some stuff..

I understand wanting to have your clan members in the server, dont get me wrong, we did the same thing in the mod for our community members. What i dont understand is giving people "special rights" because they chose to donate money, like giving them special starting gear, vehicles, items, etc. If people want to donate, they should do it out of they're own free will, and not because they can get a vehicle/gun/vest easier that way imho. That just selling a product and has nothing to do with donations, as donations dont give anyting in return, thats the very essence of donations.

Lets see now. I'v played it about a year ago then stopped because of how unplayable it is. Logged back on last night to see what kind of progress the game has gotten: >zombie ai still retarded >zombies still run through walls, ground >invisible enemies in ground/wall >zombies see through walls >controls still shit >still no vehicles or anything fun >still dying randomly from low hieght jumps jesus christ this is embrassing, does this company not have employees? Its a game about fking zombies, and the zombies havnet worked for 2+ years now. What a joke. And fanboys please don't spew out your "this is alpha" bullshit. A game doesnt stay in alpha for years with 0 progress at gamebreaking bugs like this. Especially when you'v made this many sales in pre-purchase. Absolutly horrid management.

Server Scripts, Tools, and Plugins Indestructible Bases Ai Missions Side Missions (Events) Anti Combat Logout SupplyDrops Kill Messags Build Snapping SafeZone Trader Lift & Tow elevator (ComingSoon) Take Clothes Self Bloodbag Extra Loot Extra Vehicles Antihack by Infistar Server Admins: [sKS]Goliath,[sKS]Primo,[sKS]Vehro,[sKS]Astiix Server Ip: 144.76.6.164:2680 Homepage: http://www.sks-community.net

Just want to get the word out for all tired of playing on incomplete servers with no spawn loadouts and random spawns after searching for months I've found the MIA servers are the best I've seen all up to date we have epoch and overpoch servers complete with pvp and pve constantly maintained by active admin who script awesome missions epic vehicles and a good crew, so if you want to get hooked on amazing servers type MIA with dayz launcher and join us in overpoch if you want a good clan to roll with join us at miaclan.net and tell em Phantazem sent ya. url for clan http://www.miaclan.net/activity.php for those who use teamspeak bare in mind we are a family friendly server and ask no sailor talk keep it clean our teamspeak is 66.55.149.29:9455 check us out we team up on many games. We are also now featured in the arma 3 epoch which in arma2 mixed with standalone epic game so if you want to find good loot and roll with 8 to 9 others across the wasteland give us a look up.

Greetings Survivors! Rotgut Dayz is looking for new players to join our community. Currently, we are a small group of regulars since day one. We mostly hangout in teamspeak, so join us if you want to be part of the group. We have two servers, both on Napf and they are working progress as they are fairly new. So you may encounter some issues while playing. But rest assure, admins are working hard in order to fix the problems. Also, the servers are PVP allowed, so we don't want to hear any people winging about their death during a fire fight. Server features will be displayed below. A brief description of ai missions will be provided for new players to have an expectation. Rotgut Overpoch Napf: >Ant-Hack >Hard Missions >Roaming AI >Self Blood Bag >Coin & Bank System >Active Admins >Loads of vehicles >AI Island & Castle >Pro Snap >No maintenance >No plot pole to build >Indestructible Base >Indestructible locked vehicles >Free refuel at any service station >Auto repair at any service station >Rearm armored vehicle at any station >Safe Trader Zone >Custom Debug >Lockable mission crates (Load them in vehicles and lock them at your base to save them) >Vehicle Tow >Heli lift Rotgut Overpoch Origins Napf: >Anti-Hack >Hard Missions >Roaming AI >Self Blood Bag >Active Admins >Loads of Vehicles >AI Island and Castle (Working Progress) >Origins vehicles >Origins Building >Pro Snap (Working Progress) >No maintenance >Plot pole serves as zombie shield >Indestructible Base >Indestructible locked vehicles >Free refuel at any service station >Auto repair at any service station >Rearm armored vehicle at any station >Custom Debug (working progress) >Lockable mission crates (Load them in vehicles and lock them at your base to save them) >Vehicle Tow >Heli Lift Missions: We have a large list of customized missions with custom loot. Difficulty from Easy to Insane. AI vary from 10 to 40 depending on the mission difficulty. Mission with Medium to Insane Difficulty tagged will have 50 caliber gunners protecting the loot. Mission with Hard difficulty or higher will have AI helicopter support. Including 10 airborne enemies. Loot: Easy difficulty - Medical and random supplies Medium difficulty - Armed air vehicles, Armed ground vehicles, Medical crate & Weapon crate Hard difficulty - Building Supplies & Gold Extreme difficulty - Weapons and Gold Insane!!! difficulty - Weapons, Gold and building supplies. Admin List: Rotgut (Owner) Donut2010 Beastman KILLKILLKILL Tictactoe TS3: tsla1.vilayer.com:10006 Website :http://rotgut.enjin.com/home Rotgut Overpoch Server: 199.229.255.204:2402 Rotgut Overpoch Origins: 69.162.104.189:2702

Cars should just plain deteriorate over time without care. This should happen even if the car is being used. Cars should rust over time unless waxed (or something like that). Engine parts should wear out if not oiled regularly. Tyres should have a very small chance to burst. Lots of things like this should happen to cars making them harder to maintain So there is no point in having 5 of them. And once they reach a certain state of disrepair they should despawn or become a seperate unrepairable entity. (but that would only work if cars where implemented like my vehicle suggestion - http://forums.dayzgame.com/index.php?/topic/212383-unrepairable-vehicles-to-spawn-salvagable-loot/) That unrepairable vehicle would stay there for a few more days before despawning.

I was talking with my friend yesterday about vehicles and ways to avoid situation from MOD when all vehicles will stay in forest hidden for a week because somebody "just need that car there". We have realised that previous cleanup mechanic is odd (vehicles were deleted if their position weren't updated for a week) because somebody can enter a car, drive it 5 meters forward and it have cleanup timer reseted. So we agreed that odometer counter would be great option in game: Something like this: This would allow a lot of stuff. Modders can use it for something. Maybe car parts life and decay could depend on this? Even filling up a tank can be countable, if I fill a tank with 20 liters and car burns 7 liters (fuel burned by different cars can vary) per 100km i can run about 300km, which can be easily calculated using a car odometer. This would also be visual improvement, awesome to see counter rolling while driving.

I completely agree with this, there needs to be more "story" in the world. Here is something I posted in a thread I made about looting car parts, it was about how car parts would spawn while keeping the amount of useable vehicles down. But this part of it is relevant. -------------- Non drivable vehicles would be more common, much more common 50-100 per server but they would be in such a state that they could never be repaired. Some of the conditions these vehicles would be found in are - Completely totaled on a building or into a tree at the side of a road - anywhere Burnt - anywhere Shot up by military - near military bases Full of dead zombies and rotting flesh - mostly in cities Rusting to pieces - near the coast or in the woods -------------- I was stuck between them spawning in different locations like choppers do or them being in the same place and X% of them spawning loot on restart. I was unsure because if they moved every restart it would seem strange. Though thinking about it, some of them could be static and some of them could move! The crashed cars for example, it's possible that they only crashed yesterday meaning that they could be random spawn while others, like the burnt cars and ones full of dead zombies/people would always be in the same place. I was thinking that these cars would show story, find a car that crashed into a tree? there should be a dead person in the drivers seat and maybe some valuable loot in the boot. Find a car full of dead people/zombies, there should be valuable loot but you would need to disinfect or take on a high risk of infection. Top notch post Xbow!

This is stupid, it's punishing people for not playing the way you want them too. I agree that KOS is out of hand but I don't think that punishing people for it is the way to go. There should be incentive *not* to kill everyone you see. What can they offer you, what can you gain from not killing them? A few examples of things that will help with this. ------------------------------- I was talking on reddit about salvagable parts from non drivable vehicles (I also made a thread about it here) the other day and someone pointed out that if they saw someone looting one of these cars for parts, they might think that they have a vehicle somewhere that they are trying to fix. Suddenly, there is hope of a vehicle, one of the rarest things in the game (this is assuming they would be. 10 per server, max). The goal isn't to shoot this guy and take his stuff anymore, it's to follow him and find out where it is or team up with him and help him fix it. ------------------------------- Caches/bases. If someone is looking pretty geared up and walking around in the forest or a small town, you may think that they have caches or a base nearby. And so the best thing to do isn't to shoot on site anymore, it's to follow them and find out where they're hiding their loot. Bases will also promote team work. I'll paste part of one of my comments from another thread to show what I mean. >I also think a detterant to smashing on a door with a sledgehammer will be zombies *and other players* (in the finished game, not as they are now) there should be more of them and they should have some way to respawn (or just a fuck tonne of them to begin with, 50 in a small town). So if you wanna smash that door down, you better have two or three guys ready to fend of the horde. and >If I'm making a house I am gonna make it so that a fresh spawn cant get in. The best way to raid a house would be with a squad. If you where doing it solo you would want to do it with lockpicks (which should be rare) and the risk would still be high cause if you get your leg caught in a bear trap your gonna be immobilized and probably scream and all the zombies in a 50m+ radius are gonna hear you. *to clarify, I suggested booby traps should be possible, for this reason* ------------------------------- I think there should be benefits and downfalls to each style of gameplay, but they should be real world consequences. Not emotions and things that effect stats.

Fighting13th (40 Players) Server IP: 212.129.58.220:2302 | v1.8.0.3/Beta 103718[3DP:ON|CH:ON] TS3 IP: 64.34.202.140:10777 WWW: www.fighting13th.com About Us: The Fighting 13th was established July 21st, 2009 (under 13th MEU moniker before) and been active ever since. We have 100+ members from all over for the different games we play. We have 3 active Divisons: Warthunder, BF4 EU/US and Arma Our Arma/DayZ Division has been active for more than 6 months so far and now finally we have a server to play on. Admin Team: Our admin team consist of a few mature Clan members who are there to help anyone in the server. Server Information: Active, Mature, Polite Admins on server and Teamspeak 40 Player Server HALO Spawn 300+ Vehicles Regular Scheduled Restarts (4 Hours) 15, 10, 5 min server restart warnings Regular Updates (New scripts/map edits) Custom Scripts: Selfbloodbag HALO SPAWN Safezone's Wicked AI missions Servicepoint (refuel/repair) Custom debug monitor No weight Custom buildings Deploy bike Custom loadouts Build snapping pro Animated chopper crashes TOW/LIFT Custom loading screen Befriend Dog Zombie Respawn Killmessages Friends saved in DB 3 Secret Military Bases (More coming soon…) The first 10 Players that join our server get a free Epoch Building Box to get started!

Welcome To Blades DayZ Epoch Chernarus (Roleplay Server) Server: 71.203.232.52:2302 OR Blades DayZ (Search in filter) ~We would love to hear feedback and recommendations //Features Our main focus was to make this feel like a real zombie apocalypse. We have added many scripts and map addons to our server such as, Self Bloodbag, Auto Refuel, Mission System, Roaming AI , custom Epoch traders, snap building, indestructible bases, more vehicles, tow and heli lifting script, taming dogs, gender selection, service station, more locations(camps/cities) and a lot of cool other server functions. (Custom loadout system,anti backpack theft,safezoneTrader, ETC (TOO MANY TO LIST)) Mostly, every day we do an event, ran by admins. (we sometimes take players to 'quarintine zone' or a camp, and we will try not to let people die) WE DO NOT USE BATTLE EYE, We use a better anti hack for Epoch. (battle eye is too glitchy with the scripts we added) //Admin Events Admin Events happen mostly every day, the events will be put in global chat (by admin) and there will be a meetup point. If you are there to kill us- you will be kicked, then banned. The events end with player getting loot, you most likely will not die in the events, and the events are all roleplay based. //Rules No cheating with scripts or mods No KOS (kill on sight). you can kill once you made contact, you may not kill the victim if they are complying to a robbery. New Life Rule(NLR). Once you die, you may not remember where your body was and you cannot tell your friends on teamspeak or anything like that about your killers location and their intentions. Roleplay. Don't change your back story after you already told someone. But always try to stay in character. No combat logging or ghosting If you have any trouble connecting to the server use the ArmA 2 in game server list, or if you need the IP to connect, I will add on to the post. The Server is still in development Hope to see everyone on! Bye-Bye! // If this is in the wrong section, please tell me I will move it :) :beans:

[GG] Ghostz Gamerz Server | Website We run a overpoch server. With Most scripts and least lag. [GG] Server stands out from the crowd because of the number of awesome scripts we offer. And also good active admin staff and rules to make the server stable. Scripters work everyday to make the server better. We also offer free teamspeak for you to find other survivors of talk to your friends. We offer free channels for groups and clans. Server Addons and Content>>> Single Currency - Our server is ran off a gold coin system to insure safe and easy trade.Banks and ATMS - All around the map you can find ATMS to withdraw/deposite your gold for safe keeping.TOW&LIFT - Gives you the ability to tow and lift ANY vehicle in the game. As long as you have a certain vehicle.Debug Monitor - By pressing insert a debug monitor will display to give you accurate in-game stats of your character.Overwatch Conent - We have ALL overwatch content on the server. Nothing was left out. All guns, vehicles, and skins have been added in to both traders, and loot spawns.SafeZones - All traders and banks are protected by a safezone border that enables god, activats a zombie shield and slows all vehicles down to prevent accidents.Mission Systems - Not only do we have one mission system, we have TWO. One for AI and loot crates and the other for hidden treasures, airdrops, and carepackages.Snap Building - This will let you snap building objects at angles giving you an edge on base building.Deploy Menu - Our scroll menu isn't clutterd up with custom selections. You right click the item with custom actions. Such as a bloodbag, or toolbox for deploying a bike.24/7 Day - Bright and Sunny all day.No Rain or Fog - Because we care about our players FPS.Refuel/Repair - All gas stations have refuling and reparing stations at them.Adjustable Distance - We give you the ability to set your view distance how ever you would like.Antihack - Our antihack consist of inifstar and custom developed protection by DTG.Mo' Map Features - We have custom map features and bases on our server to add more places to PVP and loot.JSRS - Our server supports JSRS.One Step Bulding - No more waiting around to build objects, do it at a click of a mouse.Suicide - For when you don't feel like walking or cycling. Joining Our Server: Some players can not see our server through Dayz Commander. If you cant see it then just add this IP: 69.64.34.160:27016 to Dayz Launcher. You can also still join it in Dayz Commander if you put it in your favorites. Even if the server isn't showing information. If you join it it will still take you to the load in menu . TS: 69.64.34.160

Glad you liked it! Right now I'm focused towards the first release, but then I'd like to extend the app including the possibility of having multiple "characters" (one for each hive) and also linking multiple Steam accounts together, so that you can create real "trade companies" with your friends. As a developer, instead, I'm excited to provide data that could be used to tweak the loot economy itself (I've talked about that in previous episodes). For instance, they could understand that after the introduction of a certain game mechanics (who said vehicles??) tools can become more valuable than guns. In particular they could know that a simple "wrench" is valued like "3 mosin", etc. Cool!

I hope with the dam, that when vehicles are implemented that you'll be able to actually drive over it! So many mod memories of quads doing massive flips when trying to cross the old dam. Overall looks great, really love the atmosphere of the sleepy fishing hamlet.

Get the mod.....fire an AKM in the middle of Cherno, enjoy the relentless never ending stream of zombies :) They have always said they want more zeds, as mentioned they threw around the number 3000. If I remember though that was in a build without loot. Zombies and loot items both count towards the servers "item cap" so they will have to balance it out, im sure we will see more but they cant do too much heavy optimisation until they have all the features in, knowing what resourses they have to work with ect. Expect a lot more Z's its finished as for an endgame, unique items is a good one, but I think that will be in anyways in the form of loot rarity and global item cap. Vehicles and basebuilding will supply a brilliant endgame aswell. But for me should be no defined endgame, freedom to do what you want as an endgame is part of dayz, for one person could be making a camp, another farming, another PvP. If its defined in any way we loose that freedom

Reapers Overpoch Server HOW TO JOIN OVERPOCH: In Step 1-2 you may change the version you download as you wish, but most Servers run these! Step 6 is also optional and only recommended, it is the easiest way to test if it works! 1. Go into your DayZ Commander under [install/update] 2. Download Epoch 1.0.5.1 and Overwatch 0.2.5 3. Go into your DayZ Commander under [settings] 4. Go to [Additional Launch Parameters] 5. Below it, insert one of the below without the "(", ")" (use only one, and if it doesn't work replace it with the next): (-mod=@DayzOverwatch;@Dayz_Epoch) (-mod=@DayzOverwatch;@DayZEpoch) (-mod=@DayzOverwatch) 6. Connect to: 142.4.215.203:3002 and magic happens! DE/EN SERVER! Server IP: 142.4.215.203:3002 TS IP: voice.rmrbf.com Website: rmrbf.com Features: - 7000+ Custom Map Objects - 4 Airfields! NOW 5!! - Shooting Range, Shutter Castle and much more! - Categorized Overpoch Tradercity (currently down) - Refuel/Repair at Gasstations (Repair = Gold price) (currently down) - Player Menu (ColorCorrections,ViewDistances, deploy bike/motorcycle/gyro and more! - Map updates - Safe Traders - 1000 Vehicles - Events - Instant Build - Snap Build - No Plot Pole - NO WEIGHT! - New Server (enough base positions) - Active Admins! - Great community! - Custom Overpoch AI Missions - Custom loot spawn - Start loadout - NO lag - NO desync - Many more addons coming! (you may also request any wished addons via TS,PM or on out website.) The RMR community has now also gone on the Overpoch adventure! We hope you like our Server and that not just the server grows but the community as a whole becomes even stronger! We have great staff, great members and all around a fantastic run at many different games! If you want to play on a server that is fun and fair but also matched with competition you should definitely give it a try! We have cross population from Europe, North America, South America, Germany, Australia, Norway, Sweden, Russia and more! So if you are looking for a clan in your area chances are high you will find one! Many additions are coming since our Overpoch Server just started but we hope you enjoy the hard work that was put in! I hope to see you online soon! :) Best regards, Blite Head coder Also thanks to our strong community for making this possible

I play as if there is humanity as a gameplay element. I keep score within. I RP this way as purist survivor. I don't play many shooter games but I was hooked on Resident Evil from the beginning. This feels like it has the potential to be some sort of open world Resident Evil with even more health factors and random evil players who try to kill me! Imagine a 20yr S*T*A*R*S* veteran (see: Biohazrd JPN on PS1) washed up on a beach after a world wide rage zombie infection. I'm basically "chaotic good", I guess. I was zombie hunting, with a side of bambi assist/hero in the mod a lot. As a lone wolf in the mod I had month long characters with multiple vehicles, camps, and over 1,000 zeds dead, Fred. With broken and less zombies in the game, I haven't really been able to continue my mission of cleansing the Earth of the unholy hordes. One day, when the sun shines a little brighter on dusty ol' Chernarus, I'll have me lots and lots o' smelly flesh ripping zeds to lobotomize.

That's not even counting the back-end stuff like security enhancements, the more robust server/client interaction, vastly superior UI, network bubble and other things. Not to mention when features like barricading and vehicles actually are released they're going to be infinitely better than in the mods. I've said it before and I'll say it again: people vastly over-estimate the mod and look back at it through rose-tinted glasses all of the time. It had major issues and limitations same as the standalone.