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I must admit when it comes to finding a server I stay far away from clan-based ones, tired of one group of players hoarding most, if not all, the vehicles. It ruins the game for others a fair bit because they've got no major goal to hit other than survive which becomes so ... very ... laborious.

Obviously, this is too hard for you to understand. WHY WOULD THERE BE A TEN MINUTE DIFFERENCE IN THERE? I understand time zones. You just lack common sense. And really we only posted this because it seemed your attempt to get your vehicles back. I don't really understand how you say a server ALWAYS crashes at the same time and it doesn't crash at that time (8-10 minutes off). And really, if it hadn't crashed RIGHT after we stole the vehicles, I probably wouldn't have posted this. Sorry for the misunderstanding :-/ PS: I ended up killing a guy and his body disappeared immediately too. Not too sure what it is with bodies, must be glitched.

It's just the work of one or two really try-hard script kiddies from TKC. Most of the mod-appers there don't even do anything besides spawning ammo boxes and vehicles. It's the work of one or two twelve year olds with nuke scripts.

I basically bought a PC for this game. Im hardly computer illiterate, I used to be pretty hardcore into operation flashpoint back in the day but I must say, PC's have their own set of problems. It's not all roses when you're tweaking settings, trying squeeze every last extra frame out of your system, even though it should be able to run a game on max settings with no problem. This never happens with console games Not to mention worrying about cooling, etc. Sure, you can get a good gaming pc for 800 bucks, but if you want it to be future proof (more than 1 year) it will require regular upgrades, an AMAZING cooling system, etc. You'll end up spending far more on one 'generation' of gaming then you would in 2 console generations. Also, this idea that console gamers dont want an experience like Arma or DayZ is just laughable. Of course we do. We are begging for it. Just like we are begging for diablo 3, guild wars 2, and minecraft. of course, controlwise a game like arma ii would only be possible console with voice activiation or some sort of keyboard support(simple to do, many console games already have it) but dayZ really doesnt require any special controls other than 'move' and 'shoot'. It's not like you're commanding an army. from a technical standpoint, it's also funny to hear people think dayZ wouldn't run on consoles. My 6 year old PC ran DayZ. I'm pretty sure Ps3 could handle it with some smart coding. it might even be more stable. certainly with less hacking and cheating. Really though, the map itself wouldn't be much of a problem. 50 players, a few shambling zombies, a handful of vehicles and some loot is not too much for a console to handle, even with a big environment like chernarus. It wouldn't take that much reworking. And it'd be a revelation on consoles. Seriously, DayZ as a launch title for the next gen of xbox and ps3's would be simply incredible.

Just thinking about dropping a key in the grass... >.< painful. But really I was thinking maybe you could just take a wheel off of a car for security, unless you were parked outside of the map :P. Being vehicle-less for a week now has changed my opinion, i will kill you for your car and i will just hide it better next time. These vehicles don't spawn continuously and they don't even respawn at a normal spawn point when they are destroyed, its important for them to be able to circulate and be easy to steal if found. Also it sounds too carebearish for rocket to implement.

some one probably used your vehicles to run down the tents.. .as this causes items to be destoryed

I heard US70 is an actively administered server that is manually restarted regularly to maintain tents and vehicles. Just saying.

It is proven here, which I now re-quote and post: He came all the way across the map on our server to come there and participate. If he was doing something illegitimate he wouldn't have spawned in the wrong place, would he? Is that honestly your response to the direct quotation of your team member saying: "Who the fuck gave me this position? I spawned just right next to the tents.". Bring your whole damn team in here again to explain us how the hell someone can mix up "spawn" with "drive" and not correct himself afterwards? How the hell can someone complain about being too close to the tents, when he drove there himself? You are obviously grown men playing, but the lies and immaturity just shines right through your damn posts and it is pretty obvious that you are above hypocritical in your playing methods. Not once were you seen nor heard driving or discussing driving during your entire video. You are obviously hiding and avoiding getting caught yourself, in your own damn mess and exploits. However, once we move closer towards the truth, all I see is poor replies without explanation and basically avoiding the highly suspicious comment of your team member, followed by useless and immature images and .gif's. In the video you so proudly posted, at 11:10 "Who the fuck gave me this position? I spawned just right next to the tents." is said by your team member, which gives it up. You denying that is as damn sad, as you being grown men sitting behind your monitors with big smiling faces. Posting silly and immature images and .gif's and trying amazingly hard at making other players look bad and insult them. Grouping up on Jonatan. I'm not going to tell you to be ashamed, but it is in all honesty sad. We, personally, are trying to enjoy a game. You enjoy making others look bad in public and wrap the truth up. Grow some balls and a head on those shoulders, and act like grown ups. Not only what you did in game, but also how you reacted will show the true face. It is sad and this whole forum will recognize it. The only thing that comment proves, is that they gave him the location of your camp. If anything, this proves the opposite of what you are claiming, as the guy spawned in a bad position. Also, the video proves this happened after the fight took place, completely rendering the point of spawning near your camp obsolete. The vehicles thing: no proof, no care. Now, back to the actual facts with proof. I haven't seen a single post in here explaining: - the server restart - the nighttime change - the logging off during pvp combat Don't even bother denying it, since all three of these facts are proven in the video.

Please note that we are now currently no longer recruiting! Hi all After playing this game for a while now I've come to realise that working in groups is much more effective/easier than trying to survive alone. I therefore want to form a group of people that can work together looting, killing and exploring. The long term goal is to eventually get a base setup with tents and vehicles where we can store all our loot. All you need to join is Teamspeak and a mic (obviously). Oh, we also require that you speak English, even if only a little. If you think you're man (or woman) enough to join, reply here or PM me. I'm always online. PM for details of the Teamspeak address and hop on :) Edit: The server we shall be using as our home server has not yet been decided. In terms of group size I have only just started this group so there are only currently 3 people involved (including myself). However, there are many people currently looking for groups to join so I will be recruiting more members over the coming days. Just jump on TS at anytime if you have any further questions or PM me. Looking forward to starting this. Edit 2: We now have about 6 people joining, keep this up guys, we still need more :D

There is every reason to go to places in the middle of nowhere: lighting fires so as not to been seen; hunting animals; logging out; pitching tents; hiding vehicles; etc. Nearly all my in-game time is spent as far away as possible from buildings/hotspots and there are many other players who do this. A heatmap is a cumulative map showing data over several days, it's a trend map, not a single moment snapshot, so it will show all the places that players go.

"Performance and Optimization - Reduction/elimination of the new server lag. This is caused by the ArmA2 server expecting immediate response from the central server. Vehicles are the main cause of this, as whenever they are damaged everything stops while the server ensures this is recorded in the database." http://dayzmod.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=10353

Was playing on DE 6 (DAO.nu server) yesterday and stumbled upon some clan's camp in north. Packed with tents and 2 offroad jeeps (UAV correct name..?) ATV and motorcross. I took UAV and ATV and drove them away during my couple trips I made to the camp. Didn't take much from the tents, only M14 and few bloodpacks. While i was driving away I went by my tent and took all the stuff inside and saved them inside the UAV, packed the tent and placed it in my inventory. Drove to safety and saved both vehicles. Now, I got back this morning to only find that both vehicles are gone and I thought Ok, someone could have found them and took them somewhere. I run my way back to the clan's camp only to find my old tent (which i packed) in its original place with all the stuff inside when i saved it. Then I run to the camp and its been cleared, all the vehicles that were there are now gone, tents are still there but only with trash loot. I'm not saying for sure that admins on DE6 reverted back, could have been some other weird reason, but after reading all these posts on these forums it just seems to me this kind of behaviour occurs too often , that after well equipped camp gets looted magically things revert back to what they were before looting took place. Like I said, can't really proof anything since I didn't record any ingame video of the events (will do so from now on), but maybe if other users on DE6 has experienced the same they could make their voice heard here.

We don't own any vehicles, a hacker blew our camp up along with using a map hack and stole our remaining vehicles. Server is getting updated at the moment.

I think it's mostly because vehicles lag the server. Especially when they get damaged.

Based on my in-game experience thus far (and correct me if I'm wrong) I'm assuming that: 1) Vehicles will no longer spawn on a server once the 'cap' has been reached and they've all been fixed, taken, and hidden. 2) Vehicles can de-spawn if they're destroyed (thus putting that vehicle back into circulation and re-spawning in another spawn point across the server). So, in theory, an 8+ member clan could easily monopolize an entire server's vehicles and hide them in remote areas making them almost impossible to find (especially if hidden in the debug area outside the map). That being said, here's my questions: Q#1: What's the "official" word on players going into the debug forest? I know Rocket made a thread about it being against the rules to kill loading players there. But, in general, is it off-limits? Is storing vehicles there "legal"? Q#2: This is more of a suggestion, but I think it would be wise for all servers to reset the vehicle cache (say once a month?). That way it'll give solo players a fighting chance to claim a vehicle before an organized group takes them all and hides them hundreds of kilometers outside the map.

I dont get why there are so few vehicles anyway. Raise the cap.

its really not that hard to find vehicles so long as you arent tied down to one server. when i want to go cruising in dayz i head to cherno with a buddy. we get geared up with car parts, go to a spot where a car spawns. and check all the servers till we find a car spawned there. usually doesnt take more than 5 minutes to find a server with a car there. the key is knowing the car spawn locations

What toss. Vehicles are handy but far, far, FAR from being essential to playability.

Been to almost all possible heli spawns within two days of the server being up and found nothing. Vehicles are there and do respawn, too. Or spawn again kind of where they got destroyed, still haven't figured that out.

I agree with OP limit 2 vehicles for person to own and respawn new vehicles every day. vehicles make this mod actually playable.

I agree. If they were to disable vehicles from being allowed to save outside the map, then resetting the vehicle cache wouldn't be a necessary measure to prevent hoarding. Thanks for your reply.

A vehicle reset every month is a silly idea. Someone from the dev team posted that they would recommend Rocket to make vehicles/tents unsavable outside of the map boundaries so that stops people from hoarding them out there where they will never be found. Will people hoard them inside the map boundary? Yeah of course, my clan does it.. but the fact of the matter is that the map is only so big and there really isn't any "safe" spots to hide them so they are findable.. it's even better than you finding it at it's spawn point because it will already be repaired and full of loot for you! Also, the debug forest is inside the map boundaries and is quite close to a town and players sometimes have their location reset to it so hiding vehicles around it would be a terrible idea.

How adorable' date=' a hoarder comes in to gloat. :rolleyes: Are you also the type of clan to lock your server after a reset, or crash it upon someone successfully robbing your camp? [/quote'] What is wrong with a server being locked after a reset? You do realize that this is sometimes required to allow vehicles to spawn when servers are being hammered by people connecting straight after a reset/crash... right?

Yeah like I said, that was my 1st thought that they had found the vehicles and took them back. But still doesn't explain how my tent which i packed the 1st time and placed in my inventory had suddenly appeared back in its original position, unless there is a bug in how the servers save tents and stuff. If it wasnt for the tent issue , I wouldnt even have bothered making this thread. I did not say admins on DE6 were cheating, I just stated the facts which happened and seemed a bit weird to me. Also you answered to my question that rollback is impossible so thats enough for me, thanks.

As of right now they are not needed and are not spawning. Iirc the new 1.7.1 patch will enable them again and they will be required to fix vehicles.