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Just thinking about dropping a key in the grass... >.< painful. But really I was thinking maybe you could just take a wheel off of a car for security, unless you were parked outside of the map :P. Being vehicle-less for a week now has changed my opinion, i will kill you for your car and i will just hide it better next time. These vehicles don't spawn continuously and they don't even respawn at a normal spawn point when they are destroyed, its important for them to be able to circulate and be easy to steal if found. Also it sounds too carebearish for rocket to implement.

I'm curious if it acceptable to the Day Z devs to have your server wiped. I'm talking about erasing tents, vehicles, anything serverside and resetting it. The reason I ask is primarily vehicles. They may be horded or lost and never found. Is it against Dev policy to have servers refreshed so newer players can have a reasonable chance at finding vehicles?

some one probably used your vehicles to run down the tents.. .as this causes items to be destoryed

I heard US70 is an actively administered server that is manually restarted regularly to maintain tents and vehicles. Just saying.

It is proven here, which I now re-quote and post: He came all the way across the map on our server to come there and participate. If he was doing something illegitimate he wouldn't have spawned in the wrong place, would he? Is that honestly your response to the direct quotation of your team member saying: "Who the fuck gave me this position? I spawned just right next to the tents.". Bring your whole damn team in here again to explain us how the hell someone can mix up "spawn" with "drive" and not correct himself afterwards? How the hell can someone complain about being too close to the tents, when he drove there himself? You are obviously grown men playing, but the lies and immaturity just shines right through your damn posts and it is pretty obvious that you are above hypocritical in your playing methods. Not once were you seen nor heard driving or discussing driving during your entire video. You are obviously hiding and avoiding getting caught yourself, in your own damn mess and exploits. However, once we move closer towards the truth, all I see is poor replies without explanation and basically avoiding the highly suspicious comment of your team member, followed by useless and immature images and .gif's. In the video you so proudly posted, at 11:10 "Who the fuck gave me this position? I spawned just right next to the tents." is said by your team member, which gives it up. You denying that is as damn sad, as you being grown men sitting behind your monitors with big smiling faces. Posting silly and immature images and .gif's and trying amazingly hard at making other players look bad and insult them. Grouping up on Jonatan. I'm not going to tell you to be ashamed, but it is in all honesty sad. We, personally, are trying to enjoy a game. You enjoy making others look bad in public and wrap the truth up. Grow some balls and a head on those shoulders, and act like grown ups. Not only what you did in game, but also how you reacted will show the true face. It is sad and this whole forum will recognize it. The only thing that comment proves, is that they gave him the location of your camp. If anything, this proves the opposite of what you are claiming, as the guy spawned in a bad position. Also, the video proves this happened after the fight took place, completely rendering the point of spawning near your camp obsolete. The vehicles thing: no proof, no care. Now, back to the actual facts with proof. I haven't seen a single post in here explaining: - the server restart - the nighttime change - the logging off during pvp combat Don't even bother denying it, since all three of these facts are proven in the video.

There is every reason to go to places in the middle of nowhere: lighting fires so as not to been seen; hunting animals; logging out; pitching tents; hiding vehicles; etc. Nearly all my in-game time is spent as far away as possible from buildings/hotspots and there are many other players who do this. A heatmap is a cumulative map showing data over several days, it's a trend map, not a single moment snapshot, so it will show all the places that players go.

"Performance and Optimization - Reduction/elimination of the new server lag. This is caused by the ArmA2 server expecting immediate response from the central server. Vehicles are the main cause of this, as whenever they are damaged everything stops while the server ensures this is recorded in the database." http://dayzmod.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=10353

We don't own any vehicles, a hacker blew our camp up along with using a map hack and stole our remaining vehicles. Server is getting updated at the moment.

I think it's mostly because vehicles lag the server. Especially when they get damaged.

I dont get why there are so few vehicles anyway. Raise the cap.

its really not that hard to find vehicles so long as you arent tied down to one server. when i want to go cruising in dayz i head to cherno with a buddy. we get geared up with car parts, go to a spot where a car spawns. and check all the servers till we find a car spawned there. usually doesnt take more than 5 minutes to find a server with a car there. the key is knowing the car spawn locations

What toss. Vehicles are handy but far, far, FAR from being essential to playability.

Been to almost all possible heli spawns within two days of the server being up and found nothing. Vehicles are there and do respawn, too. Or spawn again kind of where they got destroyed, still haven't figured that out.

I agree with OP limit 2 vehicles for person to own and respawn new vehicles every day. vehicles make this mod actually playable.

I agree. If they were to disable vehicles from being allowed to save outside the map, then resetting the vehicle cache wouldn't be a necessary measure to prevent hoarding. Thanks for your reply.

A vehicle reset every month is a silly idea. Someone from the dev team posted that they would recommend Rocket to make vehicles/tents unsavable outside of the map boundaries so that stops people from hoarding them out there where they will never be found. Will people hoard them inside the map boundary? Yeah of course, my clan does it.. but the fact of the matter is that the map is only so big and there really isn't any "safe" spots to hide them so they are findable.. it's even better than you finding it at it's spawn point because it will already be repaired and full of loot for you! Also, the debug forest is inside the map boundaries and is quite close to a town and players sometimes have their location reset to it so hiding vehicles around it would be a terrible idea.

How adorable' date=' a hoarder comes in to gloat. :rolleyes: Are you also the type of clan to lock your server after a reset, or crash it upon someone successfully robbing your camp? [/quote'] What is wrong with a server being locked after a reset? You do realize that this is sometimes required to allow vehicles to spawn when servers are being hammered by people connecting straight after a reset/crash... right?

Based on my in-game experience thus far (and correct me if I'm wrong) I'm assuming that: 1) Vehicles will no longer spawn on a server once the 'cap' has been reached and they've all been fixed, taken, and hidden. 2) Vehicles can de-spawn if they're destroyed (thus putting that vehicle back into circulation and re-spawning in another spawn point across the server). So, in theory, an 8+ member clan could easily monopolize an entire server's vehicles and hide them in remote areas making them almost impossible to find (especially if hidden in the debug area outside the map). That being said, here's my questions: Q#1: What's the "official" word on players going into the debug forest? I know Rocket made a thread about it being against the rules to kill loading players there. But, in general, is it off-limits? Is storing vehicles there "legal"? Q#2: This is more of a suggestion, but I think it would be wise for all servers to reset the vehicle cache (say once a month?). That way it'll give solo players a fighting chance to claim a vehicle before an organized group takes them all and hides them hundreds of kilometers outside the map.

Yeah like I said, that was my 1st thought that they had found the vehicles and took them back. But still doesn't explain how my tent which i packed the 1st time and placed in my inventory had suddenly appeared back in its original position, unless there is a bug in how the servers save tents and stuff. If it wasnt for the tent issue , I wouldnt even have bothered making this thread. I did not say admins on DE6 were cheating, I just stated the facts which happened and seemed a bit weird to me. Also you answered to my question that rollback is impossible so thats enough for me, thanks.

As of right now they are not needed and are not spawning. Iirc the new 1.7.1 patch will enable them again and they will be required to fix vehicles.

For the last time... Admins of a server cannot rollback, revert or whatever you decide to call it to a previous state... Maybe what happened was, that they noticed the 4 vehicles missing, went hunting for them and moved them to somewhere else along with there camp.. I'm seriously getting fucked off with uneducated people coming onto the forum and accusing admins of cheating constantly.. No, I'm not the admin of de6, but I am an admin... Please do a search before you accuse someone of cheating... It's open fucking warfare on admins in here, and I can see a good few people leaving because of it...

Looks like destroyed tent restored guys. Your camps are fine too. Bad thing - I didnt saw your vehicles.

It's a struggle, and as we lose cars we learn what works and what doesn't. We have things all over the map. We actually USE our vehicles, though. Not just keep them to say we have them.

theres vehicles on us77 some i just have to leave around coz ive already got a few, dont need more.

i hide my vehicles in trees, i have a hilux, lr, ural and two tt650's. Still waiting for a chopper ot spawn though.