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Lock em. Invisible walls to follow the exact border lines of the map. Invisible walls aren't realistic, but neither are endless barren hills with nothing so much as even grass anywhere. Pros: People can't drive vehicles for 5 minutes out of the map and make huge super safe tent cities there. Vehicles become more common for all players since they aren't stored god knows how far out of bounds. Finding stashed goods becomes more common and at the same time more risky for everyone because tents aren't god knows how far out of bounds. You can actually find a camp with a chopper in it because the chopper isn't stashed 25km out of bounds. Cons: You can't super safely store your shit anymore. Boohoo, that's the way it was supposed to be. You'll actually have to risk your stuff, be it goods or vehicles and let other people have a chance to screw you over. There's really no real cons are there?

This is disappointing. We have about 10 tents set up with a legit base camp no duped stuff, inside the map border, just with all our stuff. We've got about 12 of us in our group and we keep vehicle parts, medical supplies, ammo and food/drink there with our vehicles so that we can run efficiently. At least put in the update that tents will delete if not interacted with for X amount of time. That way people that set up and move on will have them deleted but legit camps will be fine.

Dear people who are complaining about vehicles in a tent thread. The vehicles and their spawns have already been sorted out. Since 4 days ago. http://dayzmod.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=12809 Since then our group has found and repaired 6 vehicles for our own uses. Look harder (at announcements and in game).

Please add your views in here mate, would be best to keep everything in one place. Like I say in my post, I have the best items and I hate dying and losing them but I support a global wipe of characters/items. The reasons are that I have killed now countless people that have the best items, and a lot of them. Although the server hop issue will be fixed soon items right now are popping up everywhere. Killing a player to see they are carrying around 3-5 night vision goggles is a bit stupid. Killing two people with the exact set of items, 100% the same items(nothing more, nothing less) is a bit stupid to come across. Although me and someone I play with usually run around with the same gear on usually our inventory and inside our bags are different, and that was not the case for the people I killed. Wiping would make everyone just respawn, reseting vehicles and deleting tents. Putting everyone at the same level(atleast for a little while) Maybe a better idea is to wipe at the server hopping fix because then items would be a lot less common considering a lot of people would be forced to stick to a couple servers instead of hopping in stary, looting 10 tents, repeat.

Now just need to fix it so anything outside the map borders isn't saved, including players, vehicles, and tents, and all will be well!

I have heard too many things about hackers spawning items/vehicles, certain servers being mass killed, and too many people talking about dupes and so on. In my honest opinion everything should be wiped, this is alpha so it can not be such a big deal. For people that are going to post, "you probably have nothing and never had good items so you want a wipe to be fair" you are completely wrong so let me stop you before you post something silly. Right now in game I have a lot... a ghille, silenced m4, nv, gps, enough food/water for days, every medical supplies, ammo/weps out the gazoo. I died to a hacker mass killing a server last week and lost the best items, my setup was a ghille suit, silenced m4, DMR(in backpack) silenced m9, every tool, nv, rangefinder, along with all this the 24 slot backpack... And I easily got most of this back from killing other players and finding some neat stuff. A lot of the people I play with also have gotten the same outfit as me including the weps/tools I have. The one thing that worries me is that lately my group and I have been killing people and finding a really stupid amount of items which is probably not legit. When we kill some people we find that they have 3-5 night vision goggles on them which is really hard to believe they found that many considering the .11% chance to find them. Another weird thing is that my friend killed some guy yesterday and it was the same guy that killed our other friend before and he looted all of his items. The odd thing was the guy that he killed had a friend that died along side of him... but the other guy had the exact same items to the dot, nothing more, nothing less and their backpacks were overflooding some how...(items did not stop apearing while taking items out of their backpack) This is just a suggestion considering all I have seen, maybe people are just really, really lucky.

Admins can only kill you via Arma II Means. He did not slay you, he shot you. So what is the point of this thread? Admins can not: Slay, Spawn gear or vehicles, or any other means of cheating.

It's what happens when you have Alpha/Beta stages with no barrier to entry such as an application and wait list. The majority of people think I paid money to play this (even though they actually didn't, they bought ARMA2) I should have my way! @rocket Wipe away, please hit vehicles next! Also, would you consider a complete wipe (characters) each time a major feature is introduced to test viability?

To all of the people claiming this hurts people with "legit" tents, I just want to point out that very few people actually know whether or not their tent setups are legit. Tents you found on the ground and especially those on player bodies could easily have come from the results of a duping fest. Perhaps you personally were not at fault in the duping, but that doesn't mean your tent is legitimate. It could very well be a copy of a copy of a copy 10 generations removed from the original tent - the only one that was actually supposed to exist. And, yes, I realize some of you found tents long ago in grocery stores and you've probably got a 95% or better confidence level that it's a legitimate tent, and you're probably right, so you don't have to pen up a long-winded response lambasting me for making false accusations and painting you with too wide a brush. This is a time when "it's Alpha" can never be spoken more truly. Advanced mechanics like tents, vehicles, etc. are under constant threat of wipe in my opinion - and should be. These items are the "end game" of DayZ if anything is. They are a turning point between the initial struggle for survival and supplies, and the "late game" hunt for vehicle parts, working vehicles, and advanced weaponry and equipment. With a tent, it's easier to get a vehicle, and with a vehicle - more tents and other vehicles. Long story short tents are a fulcrum in the game. An absolutely critical mechanic that effects game play behavior in a myriad of ways. If we want the play experience we have to be reflective of the actual game - and more importantly for the data rocket is gathering on our activities in the game to be accurate and informative, then we must accept the wipe and understand that all benefit by playing in a "legitimate" environment free of an over-saturation of what is really supposed to be a very rare item. Expecting them to somehow mine the data and tease out which tents are "real" and which ones dupes, well, that's simply an unreasonable level of effort to maintain data integrity at a time (Alpha) when data integrity is simply not a priority on the plate. It's easy to get emotionally invested, I realize. You just have to try and remember we're all flying through the air at supersonic speeds in a plane that's held together with chicken wire and bubblegum and missing half a wing. Things are libel to get bumpy, and every once in awhile some of us are going to fall out.

I came to the same thought. if people use vehicles just to get to their tent camps outside the game zone, wouldn't it be reasonable to wipe the vehicles out? I play for a month, and I haven't ever seen any choppers or cars passing by. not a single time or just build a wall outside the map. like, it's a quarantined infected zone we are playing in

Should be noted that not every spawned vehicle needs all of these things - you should check each vehicle you find for status before deciding what parts to retrieve from your storage (or which parts for which to hunt). I've found vehicles that were green but for a single missing wheel. Not sure if they spawn like this or I'm interrupting other players' repair efforts - either way it works out in your favor to check ahead of time.

Sorry for sounding noobish, but the extent of my time in Dayz has seen nothing more than a few people in the same city at the same time. This talk of tent cities and working vehicles, what the crack there? Where do you see such things? Is there a synopsis around the net which tells of the purpose of this game?

Better move all of our stuff into our newly aquired fleet of vehicles in the mean time XD

I see no problem with this. It doesn't 'ruin the game', as has been suggested, it just makes everyone play like new players. Now everyone has to find gear, rather than resupplying from private reserves. That's the point of this project, right? To test game mechanics? This X3. I hope vehicles get wiped next.

Go for it rocket lol If it stops all the greedy bassabs hoarding off the maps where no one can get without a vehicle, fair play to you. Ill loose a bit of stuff but better that for the overall gain :P Shame you can do a reset for all vehicles as well In the three weeks probably ive been playing with my mates i have not yet seen one vehicle other than some daft beggar on a bike with 50 zeds behind him. We have visited site after site looking for vehicles but not a single one, i guess because they are all sat off map where we cant reach them. Definitely needs looking at imho.

Will tents be removed from inventories/vehicles too?

Does this only apply to tents? My clan members are worried about their vehicles.

Glad to see this move... Those refugee camps are a blight and a den for dupers!!! Is there a plan to regularly purge the wastelands beyond the borders of all saved tents, vehicles, wires and other items??? It's too easy to get a vehicle and drive for ten minutes into the rolling desert and set up a camp beyond all reach... Question regarding tents... Are there plans to eventually make tents "rain free" zones where we can preserve/recover body temperature when it's raining similar to other enterable buildings/deerstands? Put up a tent, crawl inside and as long as your completely covered, you are protected... This could players a realistic, albiet dangerous, alternative way of riding out a rain storm in the wilderness. As it stands we either have to build a fire (giving away our position), use a heatpack or find a building to hide out in...

Well, i will be 100% honest here. I am a bandit.. But not the kill a random player on sight kind.. Id rather be abit more creative with my means.. We are a group of nearly 10players who play together, and one of the days when i was solo, and bored of staying in the woods i figured would go to shore, to see the sea and relax before going back into the grey zone.. However, while i was sitting on the beach, admiring the view, i heard something in the grass behind me, about 25meters or so out, i didn't turn arround, i knew no zombies walked out here, and with the gear im packing anyone with a weapon will msot likely shoot me the first chance they get. For the record, in terms of what i have. Guillie, DMR, M4A1SD, M9SD, Coyote backpack(24slots), all available accessories exept range finder, 2bloodbags, 2morphine, 2epipens, 3bandages, 5cooked meat, and 5bottles of water, not cans, since i use bottles for refills, as it makes me survive longer in the grey. My char has about 3days on it atm, so.. I figured my time had come now, i'll just sit here, admiring the sea, waiting for the bullet to come.. When i figured i could just tell him he wasnt alone there, he might have not spotted me yet, so i tell him in direct comms "Hey mate, if you are a newly spawned, and got a weapon, feel free to shoot, that's what everyone seems to do anyhow" This guy walked up to me and said "shoot you? not sure if that's how this game is ment to be played, im trying to survive here, i got no friends here, and i just got killed over some bandages and food myself" "I see" "Do you wanna take a seat? The view is pretty nice here" "sure, if it's safe enough" "you are no more safe here than you are in cherno mate, no point trying to convince urself otherwise" We sat there for 5mins, and he said that he wanted to survive for longer than just 1hour or two.. I checked his gear, and asked about his health.. He was at 6k hp, he had a makarov with 1mag, 1bandage, 1 painkiller and 1can of food.. I ended up telling him to drop the weapon on the beach.. and so he did after thinking about if for a few minutes.. I ended up giving him my M9SD, 5mags, hunting knife, matches, 3cans of food, 3bottles of water, healed him up to 12k blood, gave him 4 bandages, and then pointed him in the direction of Polana, and told him to not stop until he reached that town on the map, shows him how to use Shift+Leftclick on the map to set positions, and then told him to not go to the NWAF, nor the EAF, nor run into cherno/elektro looking for supplies, they can be found in the wild.. And then we parted ways, he was standing there for a few minutes while i observed him through my scope of the dmr.. He actually started heading directly for polana, newly equipped and ready to survive in the woods.. in the grey where all of us are. If you are reading this, you name started with "Can" something.. Hope you are still alive mate.. And i hope you didn't waste those M9 mags i gave you.. We do exist, both survivors and bandits alike.. But there is a clear diffrence on how people play the game, i for one play it like it should be played, like a survival game.. This aint cs, cod, mw with a bigger map and added vehicles.. So many thinks otherwise.. But that is theire problem, not ours.. -Z

I was kinda hanging out in DayZ doing my thing when I stumbled over yet another camp in the middle of nowhere, and I wondered to myself 'whats to stop me going in there and looting it up ... someone could log in I guess and shoot me ....' So as I piled the tent into the handily parked Lada I thought to myself 'if there was booby traps I'd be much more inclined to avoid these sorts of things'. So ... here's my thoughts (subject to drastic change) I was thinking with a toolbox and grenades you should be able to boobytrap tents. (identified as boobytraped and can be removed with toolbox). This would add two things to the game, the first - it'd keep peoples grubby mits of my crap (somewhat) and the second is it adds a 'is it trapped, do I take the risk?' element to the game. Now, before anyone just goes 'people are just gonna get toolkits and take them off your tent' and lets face it your right. The end product is SOME form of protection from those who don't have toolkits. Right now there's nothing stopping anyone from looting any tent they want. And to boobytrap a tent you'd have to use a grenade and possibly some other bits and pieces. But it would add a somewhat different element to the 'tent' playstyle. This also leads to the possibility of boobytrapped vehicles. (again fixed with a toolbox) It's not ment to STOP people looting your camp. It's just a deterrent for those who stumble across it making them think twice about ransacking and running when they don't have all the equipment they need to do so. Thoughts?

I was the partner who was there, shooting this guy in the head with a DMR repeatedly for what felt like an hour or so. We have 3 vehicles and about 20 tents, which he ended up finding (not sure how). I know many of you might not care about "campers" like us who complain when our camp is compromised, but this is beyond that... this is about cheaters. Ban this guy, please. Name: Crazy Hunter Server: US 42 - Seattle 13 - LEM Time: 3:30am-4:20am PDT

* Server this happened on. Seattle 3 - LEM * Time that it happened including your timezone. Between 3:45 am and 4:15 am PST * What happened during the incident. This scum bag was constantly dcing every time me and my partner shot him. Headshots wouldn't put him down as his corpse would fall (and be lootable) but a few seconds later he'd spawn a small ways back from where I'd killed him and attack us again. He started shooting at our car as we were driving. We parked a ways from our camp and somehow he caught up to us. And the continuing fight he kept after us and left for a short while only to return and try again (DCing even more) Not only did he compromise our camp, he destroyed one of our vehicles. It's pretty ridiculous that even head shots don't even put these fucks down. He dies and comes right back. I'll try and provide what else is needed. Edit: Edited to fit format, and to help iron out the facts. Crazy Hunter is the sort of player that needs to be REMOVED. We fought him for over 20 minutes (Close to an hour but I'm not 100% sure of the time frame) of him constantly DCing each time we'd get him. When we'd finally start camping the approx location he'd come in... A few moments would pass and suddenly he'd be behind us and shoot one of us. How do I know it was him? The guy first spoke in direct near the very first encounter. Asking who was there before the first action. A short while later we noticed in the players list his symbol changing from the one that denotes in game vs in menu.

Basically what the title says, can you save more than one vehicle at a time? This is something thats been on my mind since i started finding vehicles.

Much of our encounters now have been pretty tame after Vybor. We repaired our car and woke up at our new and improved camp We set ourselves up pretty good! I think you will notice here I am missing my Ghillie suit. You would indeed be right, and it deals with that truck. The V3S. After getting our car, we decided to get better things. The server had more people on it now that it wasn't pitch black. We felt it would be safe to travel to Solnichniy and Berezino for car parts. Everything goes smoothly for the first hour. We gather up some wheels, missing some Engine parts. We come back from Berezino to hit up Solnichniy to drop of the wheels. We even get lucky to find a bike in the middle of the road and I end up riding it. Which you look ridiculous on with a Ghillie Suit. Hops and Jenkins use the car, driving it up along the road with me lagging behind. Some god forsaken reason the bike is going about 65mph on the highway. I fear that I may fall off this bike and break my neck. This was least of our concerns as Hops and Jenkins spot someones bus just outside of Solnichniy. AK rounds suddenly ring out, hitting Hop's and Jenkin's car. They heave through a few barricades in the city. Three enemy players come out of the city, no doubt hearing their car rolling up miles away. Hops and Jenkins make it through just fine. Few windows blown out. I however, for some reason, decide to run through town with the bike. The player seemed confused as I roll up, smash my bike into him. But not before he gets a few shots off on me, killing me. I noticed however a few minutes later it says 'So and so was killed.' Killing him also with a bike felt oddly pleasing. The V3S is still missing its engine, so I run through Chenro dodging zombies full sprint with nothing but an M1911 I found, trying to find parts. People must've thought I was a noob, but ducking into an apartment complex, crouch running, weaving around a corner and out the back, over a fence and around a corner generally loses the zombies on my tail. A few nice hatchet swings cleans up any intelligent zombies that figure out I am coming around the second door. FINALLY finding the Engine parts, a glitch kills Hop's when he finds a dirtbike. He spawns near Solnichniy and notices the bus is still there. He attempts to drive it back to me and he picks me up near the outskirts of Eletro. In the meantime, I find Engine parts and we think this is going to be the motherload. We would have FOUR vehicles. Four of them! Why so many? We don't know, we just want it! I want the V3S most of all. We attempt to round some zombies when they hit the bus and the bus stops dead. "Hops, why did we stop?" "I am not doing it man... Its--..." Suddenly, the bus explodes and we discover why those three left it there. All I can do is hope I respawn near my corpse. After two attempts of respawns I do spawn fairly close to my corpse and I run for it, looting my old backpack with the engine parts and getting it on my back. At that moment, the V3S was mine. I pull it out of the city and round the tracks, making for a side road and over a hill, heading back to camp with it. Picking up Hop's later on in the day we decide to hit up a market. our first big V3S run. We sweep up several cities of their supplies... The run would have went much smoother if... Well. I didn't shoot Hop's in the head by mistake as he was refueling the V3S. Then inside the same marketplace in the same city, I cross over informing Jenkins and Tes to cease fire so I can assist them better, Tes ends up shooting me in the head! Thankfully, I spawn near the city of Kameko and I am picked up easily, we all rush north, putting our supplies away and setting up barbed wire everywhere to keep out people who might get ideas. It appeared, the V3S didn't like one of our tents. It slowly over the next two hours made its way to our spare equipment tent and levels it, crushing the contents inside! We lose several days of equipment. We all stare at the truck at this point, wondering if it is worth it. Its my truck it seems, just like my name. 'Omen of Misfortune.' and I still love it.

Prior to this they had another UAZ that they ended up going up a hill at 90+ with and hitting a rock, and they both ejected just before it blew up, hahaha. We are apparently horrible with vehicles. And the bike... Oh the poor bike. I don't want to talk about it. :(