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If you "save" a tent, it should persist. Sometimes the server loses its connection to the hive and "forgets" where tents and vehicles are. A proper server restart will almost always bring them back. Check again in a few hours if your stuff is missing.

15) Add a Kill zone if you leave the main area of the game like in battlefield series. ( warning you are wandering to far from your chance of rescue you will die in 20 seconds beep beep. ) 16) Add Item/Weapon/Vehicle Degradation ( weapons jam/break after to much use, items like matches run out, etc, vehicles lose hull or engine after x amount of time used etc )

A cut down video of us getting caught out by a lot of zombies while trying to refuel our vehicles at Novy. Never again.

+1 to this. Same goes for vehicle's. Knowing how much space is left is a must really. Nothing like losing your new shiny GPS because you pushed the tent / vehicles to breaking point.

personal reasons. What's currently there is helpful to new players, but I think that the vehicle spawns that are up there cause camping and quickly snatched vehicles. I think you should learn this game by playing it and world of mouth after a point.

Camps and Vehicles section has been revised to allow quicker access to vehicles. Soon as you have an Axe, Knife, Matches and a 16-slot backpack your main priority should be finding a vehicle to repair.

same here (i think) *Where you were: N/A *What you were doing: being ingame while server restart *Current installed version:1.7.1.5 *Server you were on: chicago 32 *Timeline of events before/after error: i wanted to pick up a friend - so i started from our camp with motocross (in the camp were also: v3s truck, 2 (empty) tents, a uaz and a bicycle). when i was on about half of the way to my friend the server restarted. after restart i spawned back in our camp, all vehicles were still there. so i left to pick up my friend again and came back to our camp about 10 minutes later - now the v3s truck with some decent loot in it (nvg's, m107, gps units) and the uaz (with some jerrycans in it) were gone. its a pretty strange thing though. at first i thought the 2 vehicles were stolen by at least 2 guys. but its strange that this should have been happened when i was actually ingame on the server, just 10 minutes out with motocross to pick up a friend. the camp (actually inside map borders, not in wasteland) existed since about 2 weeks before that and during this incredibly long time obviously nobody discovered the camp and everything stayed in its place. so why should it be that the 2 vehicles got stolen in exactly this pretty short 10 minutes when i was omw with motocross? other strange thing is that the tents stayed where the were (still empty) and the bicycle also wasnt touched. --- maybe only vehicles and tents which actually had loot in them were concerned by these hive issues?

Not once did he mention having vehicles, and even if they did, i doubt they had one every time they made a camp.

You can't dupe anymore after the patch anyway.... Duping is a silly thing to complain about. I can kill you with an Enfield just as easy as I can with a higher tier weapon. Wasn't a lot of the duped stuff hidden away in off-map tents / vehicles though? problem solved.

we HEARD you talking on the server chan when you were joining and were saying we believed we had gotten nuked because we all got kicked from the server... At this time we believed that the camp we were raiding belonged to ADMINS, and that they had shut the server down to avoid us getting their gear... I was pretty far away from the main shootout when i blew myself up with a grenade and i was right behind a guy laying down near the tent... I'm not saying hacking def. didn't occur, but I can promise you it wasn't any of the 3 of us who were assaulting your camp. I can't explain what happened to kick everyone off the server, but I can tell you that had been happening all throughout the day, and someone was moving vehicles pretty quickly upon server restart each time because I saw the server desync a lot after the reboots.. so that may very well have been admin abuse with bad timing. However, like i said.. some of the corpses were still there from the shootout.

So opened fire on 7 people last night in an open field, 6 of which logged out.. Turning into a bit of a joke, maybe a little less focus on fixing vehicles and a little more focus on working on a solution for this. Love the game, love the work you guys are doing but this is a big one...

Yeah I read it and it changes nothing I've said. It's basic common sense. People play on servers where they like the rulesets. Making a thread in forums where people typically only go when they have a problem with something defeats the purpose of having a poll or a vote. It completely swings the favor toward the people wanting the change as the people who don't want the change are playing completely unaware of this post at all and filling up the server everyday. In the end you should set the server rules how you want because you are never going to please everyone. The people who play on the server play there because they enjoy the rulesets or the majority of them would play somewhere else. I often go to hardcore servers because I like that type of gameplay and people really get into the game on those servers. I also like the rulesets on this server because when I want the game to be a little faster I have that choice. If I had to guess I'd assume these guys got vehicles then made camps and none of that stuff is permanent. Wanting rules changed because of some temporary items you have on a server isn't practical. Probably server hoppers that found a vehicle and decided to setup shop and now want server rules changed. I'm just here defending the 100s of people who play everyday just fine with the current ruleset and see no reason to come to forums to find out if there is some poll to change them. Change the rules all you want but do it for your own reasons and what you want not for a few people who some may or may not even play on the server. You'd be ruining the rulesets for many to conform to the few. That just doesn't seem practical to me. Changing them because you want to and pay for the server, that seems practical to me. Someone suggesting new rule sets to you isn't the problem here and you deciding you want to change them is perfectly fine. It's the one sided poll in the forums which will never be accurate at all which is the problem.

The answer to this thread is simple. Helicopter bullshit radar. Don't place your vehicles near your tents.

We naded 3 of their vehicles and they just vanished xD. Why would you want to pay £10 for 2 skins that really only make a difference in 3rd person mode...

Besides first getting rid of people nuking and killing entire server populations... make it so if you are moving in the debug forest you get teleported out. ( or make everyone in debug forest non kill-able ) I will label these with numbers so people can discuss them easier. 1) Lets get rid of night vision goggles and thermal scopes - why: they are not good for this game, it's better we use flares/Chem-lights/Flashlights. 2) Fix the Day and night Cycle: what to fix? - First of all, The day and night cycle is not fully synced to all clients, and may of times it is day to one person but pitch dark to another. 3) Another thing is the duration of the current cycle, it needs to be sped up, we need maybe 5-8 hours of light and 2-3 of dark. something to give us balanced playtime of the cycle and not the current too long of a cycle. 4) Change the de-spawn timer on saved vehicles to 24-48 hours. Add in more vehicles, add in more bicycles, perhaps add in the ability to craft a bicycle. ( Make use of the scrap metal, and toolbox see my other thread: http://dayzmod.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=19541 ) 5) Tweak Zombies to break legs less often, Make different tiers of zombies do more damage and have different habits.(by the way loving the new zombie field of vision.) 6) Add in NPCs that use guns ( this could range from npc survivors, raiders, bandits, even military officers securing a FEMA style camp or the airports themselves. ( arma offers the editor which makes it very easy to setup scenes for all of these and can be tweaked to balance.) 7) Make Loot Spawns that consist of nothing but whiskey bottles and empty cans to re-spawn on the normal loot spawn cycle. 8) Remove Helicopter radar ( Tested it out for myself, wow this makes vehicles way to easy to find and ruins this game! Remove the Radar, or remove helicopters for now until radar is removed! ) 9) Add More random events, ( similar to helo crashes, can be anything ranging from shipwrecks, a helicopter flying thru the air and you see it o down and crash and spawn a helicopter crash site its definitely possible in the editor and scripting it as a chance to go off is possible. etc bandit npcs attacking you etc. ) 10) If possible make it so you cannot rapid fire pistols and snipers etc they can shoot really fast and stay decently accurate, too accurate for rapid fire. 11) Add an option on ATV/ motorbike to Flip them over. 12) FIX THIS! There is a bug with the M19 side arm and the Revolver Side Arm that when combining ammo it will refill the entire clip once it combines it to the different ammo type, making it an infinite ammo side arm provided you reload with 1 bullet left in your clip then combine the ammo twice. 13) Add more Drop when shooting sniper rifles. and possibly make them louder/agro more zombies. 14) Add more incentives/benefits to not kill people , as it is if you see someone your best option is to kill them as it increases your survival time. I have more but I'm gonna add them later I'm tired. will edit and reply as we go. ~MrFixit

So if you have a heli, you can find other peoples vehicles by like, tabbing?!

Attention: These suggestions are aimed towards what the game can be. The Arma engine is a completely different system compared to most of the DayZ community's idea of what the game can be. Rocket did mention a little clue about possibly making this a standalone game. Also, the development team could have thought of these already. Please post your opinions and modifications to this post and keep it on track. Environment: [The ideas and possibilities are endless and only limited to the imagination of fellow DayZ players. Perhaps a New York themed large scale map?] -Lights in the city some perhaps flickering due to damage. This is only depending on the time frame of how long it's been since initial infection but would add another "creepiness" factor to the game. -Wild animals including bears and wolves in the forest would take out the simplicity of traveling more treacherous. -Wandering Zombies should be able to roam the lands simulating their search for brainz. -Minor amounts of farming due to the theory of moving towards the survival aspect and learning to leave our "lives" behind. -Additional weather conditions and various tactics on how to outlast/survive them. Inventory: [The current inventory that we, as players deal with, was not made for an in-depth system that we are used to as DayZ players.] -Receive an error message when not enough spots are available Perhaps "Inventory is full" -Option to have the Backpack inventory open while looking at your main character menu is open. -A sound of "rustling" while someone goes in your backpack. -A trading system between two characters until a final solution to dropping items and not deleting them. Vehicles: [Once a better physics engine can be added/modified, the vehicles will become even more fun and worth it to complete. Although, many will request more vehicles to servers.] -Inside a vehicle, the option to roll down a window, shoot with a limited field of fire restricted to your seat/location in the vehicle. -Ability to look at the gear/inventory while in the vehicle. -Vehicle listing of the amount of spots in the inventory that are available in the vehicle. Items: [This is a very exciting section due to all the ideas we can come up with together.] -Matchboxes should come in quantanties of 32 matches and can run out. If the elements are harsh at the time of starting a fireplace, it will give a message saying "Match went out due to rain/wind/etc." -Magazines should have an additional feature due to the fact that ammunition is interchangeable now. Now, keep in mind, just because you have 50 rounds of 7.62 and two DMR magazines, you could only fill to only two of those magazines. Refilling a magazine could have it's animation and timed cooldown. (Fillling M16 magazines in real life is very time consuming. =P) -Campfires should have an inspect feature available with three tiers with a time window; Coals are hot (been put out in the last 5-10 minutes, Coals are smoldering (been put out 10-25 minutes), Coals are cold (25-a number left to the players' imagination.) -Option to utilize your sidearm alongside your flashlight at the same time. It takes a lot of training to become effective firing at targets this way and the suggestion would be increasing accuracy when your flashlight is not out. -Weapon attachments system similar to Resident Evil in game would add another dynamic to your personal loadout and have you pay attention to what you are equipped with. Nothing too detailed yet nothing too simple.(Will edit this later.) Character: -To groups and clans, a "leader" should be able to create a badge/patch of some sort and have the option of handing it out to their teammates for identifying purposes. This will alleviate the problem of spies and bandits that infiltrate a group but if that person is patient, it will make the betrayal even sweeter. =) -While spawning in game either a normal day or a malicious ghost tactic, the player(s) that are still in the same room should receive and "Player spawning in." notification and makes all affected players to become invulnerable for a time period. They can A. High tail it out of there without threat of attacks from zombie or player if they were clearing/searching a room or B. Stick it out and wait to shoot the new spawner. Now realize this is immediate area spawns like same room/building. You as a person and player should be able to hear it but it falls upon you if you do not pay attention to the slightest of noises. This will mitigate most spawn deaths but not all. -Spawning over and over to find a "faster" run back to their body so be discouraged. Set a respawn timer of 10 seconds or more to prevent the spam of deaths just to get a good location. Deal with you death and get over it. -!Ghosting! One of the hottest topics alongside DC'ers. Here is my solution; If you have fired your weapon or been fired at in the relative area, your character should be unable to leave the game for an extended amount of time. Your character will remain vulnerable and you will be susceptible to death and perhaps will receive a notification on how you have died while trying to log back on. Now onto Ghosting, a system should be thought out where if you haven't fired or been fired at and still trying "Ghost" towards an enemy position, should you spend a certain amount of time in a server, you should not be able to join into the same server, I.E; I am in a server for 2 hours with buddies and stumble upon figures in the distance and we pin down 2 survivors in a building but they are smart. I have not fired so I leave the server to get into a better position while my friends keep them pinned, I cannot re-enter that server for 15/30 or more minutes depending on how long I've spent in it and my friends cannot ghost since they have been firing at the survivors. There will be no "true" way around ghosting in my opinion. V1 Reminder! This will be a post that I will follow as best as I can and update with new ideas regularly. Thanks for reading! - Grimm

@ Ichor/Bass On the topic of realism: Is it realistic that someone in this "zombie survival game" can haul an engine that weighs much more then you do by himself cross country to then replace it into any vehicle make or model and also be able to repair hull damage with scraps, put on new wheels and the like? No its not but its a game and games aren't realistic they are made with set realities that fit the game simulation to make it fun. and on this topic, get rid of radar ( if its in the game ) to find vehicles, get rid of night vision goggles. on the Topic of my ability to craft a car/truck or even something as simple as a bicycle: I have made working buggies. I have rebuilt atc's and I think if I was a game character that could run cross country and pickup a toolbox put an engine in my backpack and carry it all the way back to a broken down car, I could find a way to make a simple bike, or buggy. Edit: interesting pic http://i.imgur.com/AzEDE.jpg this is why there are no vehicles on most servers.

Guys, there's my Day Z story. *--* Remember that, all the Very rare stuff I found, it was the first time for me, and I'm still a sort of new player, I don't really know well the world and the North part of the map, and I'm really bad at shooting games... I'm also in the mode of Hiding and Huting close to a water source with the less gear I can have ( In a forest, close to a water source, with animals, woods, as far as I can of any road, buildings or highest spots of mountains).*--* Well, after a long long time of surviving with my great gear for the type of gameplay I'm playing, I decided to head to the North with my character. I ran, ran, ran. For a long time... But, with the gear I had, it was not a problem : GPS, Compass, Hatchet, Hunting knife, Box of matches, Tool box ( if I was finding any vehicles or bycicle ) and others. I had 3 morphine, 3 painkillers, an M4a1 scoped ( found on a dead body in the airfield, the south one ) with 6 mags for it. I went in the NW Airfield, and found in the south barrack and found an G17 and 4 mags for it, more mags for my M4a1 ( but I didn't took them, I'm a hunter, I'm not a Military bandit who wants to kill everyone). THEN, I found a body, with a Coyote backpack ( I love it :) ) , a Bizon SD with 5 mags, and some usefull stuff ( cooked meat M9 SD, Enhencing Tools, etc.) Well, I found an adevenced dead survivor. I went to the other barrack, more to the North of the airfield. I was looting, and found no good stuff, all I wanted was a Guillie Sout and NVG ahah... Then, I heard footsteps. The time was in slowmotion, my hand was shaking, I was blocked in this little barrack, with like 12 windows, I was in a bad situation. I didn't know if he heard/saw me or if he had a friend or had a group with him. I decided to go in the bathroom, just at the moment I turn myself to the door, I see 2 guys running inside, they didn't noticed me, but they had like 20 zombies on them. The time stopped. I got a brillient idea, when they all killed the zombies, I decided to shoot the mirror, hoping it's going to make the same noise as the window, and with a silencer, they'll not know where I'm. I just wanted them to leave this building. So I shot, and it worked, the sound was the windows breaking sound! At this moment, they went inside a room. I shoted maybe 25 rounds on the mirror at all, and each time I was shooting ( 5-10 Rds ), they were moving to another room. The moment I saw them they weren't looking at me, but at the doors and the windows in the corridor, they came, 1 per 1, in the same piece as me, without noticing i'm there.I saw that their nametag was orange ( Bandits ) and started to shoot at them like a retard. I killed 1 guy, the other went inconscious, I was thinking about if i'm tring to heal him or not, but I finished him. I got NVGs and an FN FAL with 12 mags, so I decided to leave the Bizon leave this area as fast as possible. I was shaking at hell, it took me more than 20 mins to stop. So with 240 Fn FL rounds and all my gear, I knew that I was able to survive for a long long time. But... I went to the Devil's castle, were, I started to shake again, because I know, sometimes, there's bandits camping in there, but for no reasons. I did every lootable place, except the big tower. I found a tent, at this point, I was able to survive for all my life, anytime, anywhere in the forest. The only thing I needed to find, is a great spot with a water source, animals and a place to hide my tent as close as possible of my camp. But, I couldn't leave this great lootable building without going inside. Best and worst Idea EVER... I found my Guillie sout at the top. It was the best Day z moment EVER for me. Just need to find a Spot in the north, in the middle of nowhere and it was like the '' winning of Day Z ''. I was so excited! I started to go down the turning stairs, then, my Left arrow get stuck, and I felt for like 4-7 meters, and Died.... the first reaction was: NOOOOO The second one was : Oh well, I got morphine, 12k Blood, bandages and lots of cooked meats The third was: *You're DEAD* Whut the F*****ck, damn it, I can't f*ck*ng believe that. Well, I can't believe that either right now, 1 day after. All this work, luck, strategy, luck, to fall off a stair of like 5 meters... But, I'm not someone who rage a lot, I took the death, even if it's hard to admit it, and this is exactly why I like Day Z, all the stress, fun, fear that it procures to me is just wonderful! Even the deception and the bad moments are great, maybe 1 or 2 days after, but they are still great! So, Rocket and all the people who makes Dayz works and playable, Thanks a lot, I love this game, continue like this, for me, this is perfect, even with the small bugs sometimes. * I already posted this on another topic, but it was for a certain reason*

Guys, there's my Day Z story. *--* Remember that, all the Very rare stuff I found, it was the first time for me, and I'm still a sort of new player, I don't really know well the world and the North part of the map, and I'm really bad at shooting games..*--* Well, after a long long time, I decided to head to the North with my character. I ran, ran, ran. For a long time... But, with the gear I had, it was not a problem : GPS, Compass, Hatchet, Hunting knife, Box of matches, Tool box ( if I was finding any vehicles or bycicle ) and others. I had 3 morphine, 3 painkillers, an M4a1 scoped ( found on a dead body in the airfield, the south one ) with 6 mags for it. I went in the NW Airfield, and found in the south barrack and found an G17 and 4 mags for it, more mags for my M4a1 ( but I didn't took them, I'm a hunter, I'm not a Military bandit who wants to kill everyone). THEN, I found a body, with a Coyote backpack ( I love it :) ) , a Bizon SD with 5 mags, and some usefull stuff ( cooked meat M9 SD, Enhencing Tools, etc.) Well, I found an adevenced dead survivor. I went to the other barrack, more to the North of the airfield. I was looting, and found no good stuff, all I wanted was a Guillie Sout and NVG ahah... Then, I heard footsteps. The time was in slowmotion, my hand was shaking, I was blocked in this little barrack, with like 12 windows, I was in a bad situation. I didn't know if he heard/saw me or if he had a friend or had a group with him. I decided to go in the bathroom, just at the moment I turn myself to the door, I see 2 guys running inside, they didn't noticed me, but they had like 20 zombies on them. The time stopped. I got a brillient idea, when they all killed the zombies, I decided to shoot the mirror, hoping it's going to make the same noise as the window, and with a silencer, they'll not know where I'm. I just wanted them to leave this building. So I shot, and it worked, the sound was the windows breaking sound! At this moment, they went inside a room. I shoted maybe 25 rounds on the mirror at all, and each time I was shooting ( 5-10 Rds ), they were moving to another room. The moment I saw them they weren't looking at me, but at the doors and the windows in the corridor, they came, 1 per 1, in the same piece as me, without noticing i'm there.I saw that their nametag was orange ( Bandits ) and started to shoot at them like a retard. I killed 1 guy, the other went inconscious, I was thinking about if i'm tring to heal him or not, but I finished him. I got NVGs and an FN FAL with 12 mags, so I decided to leave the Bizon leave this area as fast as possible. I was shaking at hell, it took me more than 20 mins to stop. So with 240 Fn FL rounds and all my gear, I knew that I was able to survive for a long long time. But... I went to the Devil's castle, were, I started to shake again, because I know, sometimes, there's bandits camping in there, but for no reasons. I did every lootable place, except the big tower. I found a tent, at this point, I was able to survive for all my life, anytime, anywhere in the forest. The only thing I needed to find, is a great spot with a water source, animals and a place to hide my tent as close as possible of my camp. But, I couldn't leave this great lootable building without going inside. Best and worst Idea EVER... I found my Guillie sout at the top. It was the best Day z moment EVER for me. Just need to find a Spot in the north, in the middle of nowhere and it was like the '' winning of Day Z ''. I was so excited! I started to go down the turning stairs, then, my Left arrow get stuck, and I felt for like 4-7 meters, and Died.... the first reaction was: NOOOOO The second one was : Oh well, I got morphine, 12k Blood, bandages and lots of cooked meats The third was: *You're DEAD* Whut the F*****ck, damn it, I can't f*ck*ng believe that. Well, I can't believe that either right now, 1 day after. All this work, luck, strategy, luck, to fall off a stair of like 5 meters... But, I'm not someone who rage a lot, I took the death, even if it's hard to admit it, and this is exactly why I like Day Z, all the stress, fun, fear that it procures to me is just wonderful! Even the deception and the bad moments are great, maybe 1 or 2 days after, but they are still great! That's a sort of proof that, my tactics of hunting and leaving in the woods is pretty much one of the best and the less dangerous. So, Rocket and all the people who makes Dayz works and playable, Thanks a lot, I love this game, continue like this, for me, this is perfect, even with the small bugs sometimes.

I've spent lots of my time in DayZ trekking through forests, I wouldn't be surprised if lots of other people did. As others have said, it's either a server restart, or someone ran into it in their travels. Also I think choppers can track vehicles? Not %100 percent on that, but a clan might have gone vehicle hunting and found yours using the chopper or something, I've heard of it happening before.

Well I was trying to think of situations where you would have a legit reason to go from server A to server B and back to server A in quick succession and that did not occur to me. The only reason I came up with was moving home servers where you are moving gear from server to server using tents or vehicles. I have done this and the hour wait would be a pain, but I would deal with it if it meant not having to see someone disconnect and think, well fuck me what tree/roof are they running too right now on South Africa 1 to relog here?

I know I found that when riding my motorcycle around if I were to get on/off everything was instantly healed to full. Not sure if this is for the motorcycle only or others as well. Storing gear in vehicles is always risky though. Outside of a few jerry cans we never stored important gear in them for that very reason.

What's strange is that the damaged vehicle we had was respawned on full health, but with nothing in it, while the other two vehicles that had taken no damage were respawned with all the gear in them. I'd appreciate this being looked in to, at least so it doesn't happen in the future. For now, I guess my group will just have to find another server to store equipment on.

Exactly' date=' if you just didn't restart your server and accept the loss and try to recover it fairly..I wouldn't of posted anything..we might of actually had a good fight. btw I suffer extreme lag/game freezes whenever I log in and enter/exit vehicles(random)..so im not really surprised you guys were suffering similar fates. Goes away after a few minutes, but it goes away. [/quote'] Having owned arma2 since its release I have never ever experienced any lag when entering and exiting vehicles.