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Unless they are driving obviously hacked in vehicles (tanks, apaches ect) I don't think it is right to kick anyone unless you have found proof in the script.log file of the vehicles being created.

Now i know some, a lot of or all of these might of been said already. About Tents Tents - The equipment they hold are probably very important for the most part - Spare weapons, medical supplies etc... but to me, these are very unreliable and not worth the hassle they bring at this moment in time and i would much rather keep my supplies in my vehicle(s). I Suggest changing the inventory of the tent & Vehicle storage from the current: (If this is correct?) From: To something like: 100 Item slots with an indicator like backpack space (With everything taking from 10slots, 6slots, 4slots, 3slots etc.) in my personal opinion that would be much easier... no?. But with that being said, Is only the smallest part of the annoyance with tents. They are unreliable! from my experience and many of my friends who play this game - and also reading the forums it seems :) But with all that being said, I wont dive much deeper into tents as they are (Hopefully) being looked at already so i have no need to restate what many others have said. Vehicles These seem like an endangered species ! A lot of what i see on the forums are posts about are vehicles, vehicles & vehicles! Be that they are kept off map (Has been sorted if i read that post correctly) They are kept for storage purposes only (Like i do - but i actually drive around picking friends up and its used whenever i am on) The re spawn time is way to long! So here are my suggestions. 1. Change the re spawn time for destroyed vehicles to: 1.a: Sometime between 1-3hours later in an random location (This may increase server load/stress ?) but with the 6hour restart that shouldn't be too much of a problem? Also the next patch is a "huge" performance increase 1.b: Change the re spawn timer for "unused vehicles" to a minimum of 1day and max of 5days! depending on whats the current status of the player - 1.b.1: If the player died - 1 day if he has not reclaimed his vehicle 1.b.2: Just not connected - 5 days (Might have work, lost internet etc.) 1.b.3: Logged in (Whatever server) and has not used the vehicle - 3 days ? Something like that might increase the actual sight of a vehicle? also this brings me to my next point. Vehicle Storage People tend to use vehicles as storage but don't actually use the vehicle itself to get around the map - i few of my friends do this, a load of people on the forum do this as well as far as i can tell - and i assume this is because - tents are unreliable & vehicles are mobile storage. So i suggest either - Remove storage of vehicles! (I would not like this) Or seriously nerf the storage of vehicles! to like 10, 15 or 20 Item slots? (1 Main weapon, A few ammo - A few food & Drink) this one i personally think would increase the sightings of vehicles quite a lot. In my whole time playing this mod (probably just over a month now quite solidly) - On any server i join (Mainly UK ones) sometimes Seattle servers and now my clan server - I see on average a whole 1 vehicle a week being driven around... Such a bore ---------------- Just my opinion & Suggestions on the vehicle & storage situation.

I am absolutely what you would call a hard core gamer. Been doing it since I was able to hold a controller in my hand back when the Atari was around (but not during it's release - I'm not that damn old). I was born in 1982 just so you don't get any bright ideas and start calling me old. I'm only 29. Anyway, so after somewhat avoiding Arma 2 for a long time I played Arma 2 Free for a while then picked up the game about 3 weeks ago specifically for DayZ. From the stand-point of a semi-newcomer who learned about the game from a friend then learned more through YouTube videos and having spoken to people in the clan and others, I think I speak for damn near all of the player base in the following points: :idea: Observations: - Bandit skin: no legitimate excuse to remove. So I must ask whether or not this will return and why it was disabled in the first place. A massive percentage of people purchased this game (one of many reasons) because of the bandit skin. Regardless of what reason some person comes up with (and will) in this thread: the reason will not be good enough. - Helicopters: Alright, so I understand the lag issue. God knows, I know how bad the engine is for dozens of reasons: netcode, AI, passengers in vehicles, performance optimization (lack of), etc. But at the same time I have to ask myself: How is DayZ any different than vanilla Arma 2 where people fly dozens of aircraft at the same time on servers. How does one helicopter effect anything? Not that I don't believe you: I just want to know the TRUE technical answer. Not sure I can see how a modification of A2 suddenly has issues with helicopters. - Removal of side chat on most servers: absolutely no legitimate reason. Bandwidth: text does not effect bandwidth or increase lag. I might understand that excuse back when I was on a 2400BPS modem. God knows text loaded slow as dirt back then on BBS's. So what IS the legitimate reason (not that there is one)? People want it. I can't imagine one person that doesn't. How many games have had the same exact thing (including Arma 2) for years or even decades now. :idea: Features that can like be turned on and NEED to be: - Death messages: Who died and who killed that person. Makes it a hell of a lot easier to find out who a hacker is and is beneficial in a dozen other ways. I can't even imagine why this isn't on. While I'm at it, not sure what is up with the chopper crash sites lately. Normally you can spend an hour and find five of these on one server. I've spent the past 2 days and found maybe 2 on about 30 servers. Seems like something weird is going on? Thoughts? :-/ :idea: Conclusion: You have to admit, reason upon reason people purchased this game, for the features like those above, have been disabled. I understand disabling Helis. Doesn't bother me. But please do tell the reason that bandit skins and side chat has been messed with. Not that I'm complaining, but I am making an observation here as I've been thinking to myself what the deal is with so many features being turned off that should be on.

Thanks for reply, so I have to search more on the other server to find some vehicles. *smile*

I know most servers currently have this implemented; giving you a 2-5 minute warning of when a server is going to be restarted. But some, and most servers out there do not have one pre installed. Mainly it would be used for saving vehicles/tents just in case, yesterday I lost a car full of gear because of a server restart, usually it goes back to the last place you saved it...but in my case it didn't. I'm sure I'm not the only one that has had a problem with this. Thoughts? ~Asphyxia

Did you lose your vehicle? D'aww. How sad. I think we should start a charity for your loss. The Ural Recovery Fund. Or, you could pick yourself up, hide your vehicles better, and move on. Had 5 vehicles at one point hidden on map, and they were never found.

Omg aren't you being a lil dense here :D ? Of course I'll play on some other server. And of course I'll report this server as it's clearly breaking the rules set for hosters. Admins have no right to kick anybody to restrict access to their server. Why? Stop being dense and come up with few reasons yourself :D . if i was paying for a server. i think i should be able to do whatever the fuck i want with it. you should be thanking every admin that is hosting/renting a server for you poor bastards to play on. the fact that you can't password protect the servers is complete garbage. whine all you want about locked servers giving "clans" an unfair advantage. locked servers would keep the hax out' date=' which is a bigger issue that's destroying the community. [/quote'] Here's hoping that you're never in a position to admin a server, never mind host one. No, individuals/clans/communities should not have their own private servers connected to the hive. The reasons for this are pretty easy to understand for anyone who cares to engage their brain. Locked servers facilitate unimpeded loot-farming and vehicle hording. This in turn allows the host to transport huge amounts of loot, that they otherwise would'nt have had, into other servers, as well as the ability of ghosting with vehicles. The rules are clear, hosting a server is a donation to the project and development of the mod/game. If you want a locked server, develop your own mod.

Hmm.... Well, Yesterday, A few pals and I decided to take our V3S Up to Berezino/NEAF to look for a vehicle.... Well, we here we are in Krasnostav and I'm driving the Truck down the road. I barely touch the side of the truck to a light post on the side of the road, and the game decides to say "Fuck you!" and Makes the truck Slide Upward, yes, Upward the lightpost and then glitch out and land on the ground on it's side. So here we are in the most north-eastern part of the map, with our Camp, where our other vehicle is located, about 8-9km away. So We decided to split up into groups, one of the guys decided to trek it back to our camp, grab our other vehicle, and try and push the tipped truck back up rightside. Meanwhile, me and another bud decided to hit up the NEAF and Black Lake looking for a vehicle we could use. Not much luck except for finding a tractor, which was heavily damaged. Our Buds got the great Idea to use the damaged tractor to flip the truck back over, Not the greatest idea. One of our guys gave the truck two good slams, and the tractor killed our bud in the tractor. So in the end, we waited for out other bud to get the vehicle from out camp up to where we were and try and flip the truck back over with that. Well, He got pretty far. He pushed the truck up against a roadblock and tried to flip it over on that. Well, after about 10-15 minutes of pushed, he got the truck glitched into the roadblock, and gave it one more push. The game decided to say "Fuck you!" again and as he pushed the truck into the roadblock, the truck went Flying, yes, FLYING into the air, landed back down, and lifted off again. We never saw that truck again. It was disappointing for us, but amusing at the same time. Later, I had the great Idea of Shooting a Zombie with my M107 in the middle of Krasnostav, and aggro'd about 10-ish zombies, got my blood down to about 5k, legs broken, in shock, and knocked out. Fun Stuff ^_^ Luckily, my buds got me patched up. Since that whole Idea went bust, our group decided to hike it to Elecktro and look for vehicles/Ammo there. We ran into, or at least we thought we ran into a group we met the night before who had a running bus, so we were planning on hi-jacking the bus and taking it back to our Camp. However, our recon in the city and snipers outside the city lost sight of them, last heading east on the Main road, most likely heading to Berezino. After these events, we decided to do a Cherno Run, seeing as how the server reset earlier today, and we lost all of our shit in the Tent (Even my AS50 >.<). It was fun stuff. We are still looking for a vehicle >.>

If it really took them 3 minutes to get from Stary to Sol with 3 vehicles loaded up with that much cooked meat and spare tires after killing a guy upon logging in and they had truly never been on your server before? Yeah...they would have hacked. But that is assuming all of the above is actually true. There is no possible way for them to have done all of that work in 3 minutes time. But it IS possible they were on the server previously and you just didn't know of it. Ultimately the 3 minute timeline just doesn't seem likely since it would take them longer than that to drive that distance even at full speed.

I agree. This game is still to easy to survive. Especially once established in a group with tents and vehicles everywhere.

We had a camp with tents and vehicles and everything was stolen in less than 5 minutes which is not possible in such a short time. I do not give nicknames now. Last night we saw an A10 on our server. There are players who are killed and despawnent as fast and are teleported far. It is no longer possible to play a friendly and normally, there is talk of shutting down the server because I'm sick of cheaters. Too bad it could have been a good game Admin chicago 44

Suspicious to some degree indeed. But why would you use "21 Cooked steaks" as something that made you suspicious? That's only about 3 cows worth of meat. Also if you suspected that their vehicles were hacked in, in perfect condition, why would they have 11 spare wheels on them? It should also be added that it's not "right", to kick them, only to go steal their vehicles. You have minor reasons at best to suspect them for anything, and proof for nothing, if you suspected that they hacked it in then you should have checked logs for suspicious activities. As for you wanting opinions for if it's "possible" that they hacked it in or similar, then yes, it's possible, just like it's technically possible that anyone you see carrying a weapon may have gotten it in an illegal way. Or it's possible that they've had vehicles for ages, fixed them up, and then you kicked them and stole it all because you felt it was "suspicious".

On the server I play on Hackers are really common. Always finding guns which aren't in the game from other players' date=' or finding hacked vehicles driving/flying around. Even this one time bombs and planes were falling from the sky to blow everyone up -_- [hr'] Logged in and the M107 was gone but I still have the NVGs. And I still have the ammo for the M107 wtf lmao.

Our clan raided a hudge camp on EU 40 server. About 20 tents, 10 vehicles, lots (I mean really LOTS) of weapons like M107's, SD-Weapons, Backpacks, SD-Ammo,... While one of us was looting the tents, the others covered him. We stole them a vehicle, and suddenly another player spawned at the camp. We shot him and right after that (about 15 seconds) the server was shut down. That happened twice to us and we were told by a guy in our TS, that exactly the same thing, on exactly same server happened to him too. YOU ARE A COWARD NOOB CHEATER DREGEK!!! Don't play on this server, cause the admin is cheating! He and his mates collect loot and as soon as somebody enters their camp, the server shuts down!

So you hid the vehicles off the map? If so that's an exploit that would earn you a ban on most servers... If I as an admin can play and hide vehicles within the constraints of the map, then so can everyone who joins my server! Which isn't fr10 before you ask..

This is the "Cody" that killed this exploiter/hacker 3 times. Wiick and I spent hours lugging car parts together all the way up to the Ural spawn. Wiick reported that a UAZ was flying north towards the Ural I had JUST finished repairing. Upon hearing this, I took a position along the road to ambush him. While he was busy getting gear out of his UAZ I engaged with my Silenced MP5. He stopped in front of the UAZ for a period of time before trying to recover and fight back. Whatever exploit/hack this PashTeT was using wasn't enough to give him a brain and I put him down. Shortly after trying to make sure my surroundings were secure I noticed another hostile near the front of the UAZ. I lost line of sight on the survivor and he mowed down Wiick who was coming up the road to reinforce me. As I reclaimed visual on subject and put him down the chat box displayed that PashTeT had died again. Thinking it a bug and shrugging it off I went to marvel at the collection of vehicles that had quite literally fallen into my lap only to be torn away from the scene by Wiick telling me he had 1000 blood. I went to his side and applied all the necessary medical treatment, however, I was without an Epi-pen and he would have to wait out the duration unconscious. Turning around I saw the same guy with the same damn 240 looking to avenge his pathetic defeats. After killing him again I finally pinpointed that he was respawning with that same gear loadout in front of the UAZ and moved in to try to stop this madness. After landing two definite shots I was gunned down by the spray of rounds he poured out of his MG. In conclusion, this player was somehow respawning at some save-state of his character and it seemed to be a server wide effect because I found that when I went to respawn it spawned my character where I died, unconscious. Had this been legitimate I would have been awed by the timing and balls he showed. Unfortunately, the fact that the guy zoomed right in as the Ural was in working condition and respawned multiple times with the same gear loadout clearly tells that he was hacking/exploiting. My friend and I put hours into that Ural and even more time on the high-tier gear we had obtained and scavenged for, everything we worked for was on the Ural and now all of it is lost. If something could be done about this PashTeT, I would highly appreciate the effort, knowing that as I rebuild from NOTHING this great community could suffer one less hacker. Thanks for this amazing game and all the work you've put into it. -Cody

Yeah in another post i read that once you reconnect you are able to see all map markers regardless of the channel they were placed in. Don't think that applies to vehicles and players.

I love it when people suggest changes to the game design and give hackers as their reason. Like how about we just fix the hacks instead, Sherlock? Vehicles are fine. Hide them well, protect them, but you shouldn't be able to keep them forever just because you really, really want to.

Any time we store anything in our UAZ the entire inventory is wiped on restart. Ural was okay, we've only lost a few items from that but the majority seem to stick. Our motorbikes inventory seemed to save fine aswell. I dont recommend storing anything in UAZs for now at least. Those are the only ones I can speak for personally, but from the looks of the thread it seems any of the vehicles with space equal to 50/10/2 may suffer from this wipe issue (see http://dayzmod.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=10198 ). I can also add that of the 50/10/2 vehicles I've found in the woods, all of them have been empty (A toyota, some old hatchbacks).

Hey geniuses telling the OP to cry more, there are scripts that can allow a hacker to locate all the vehicles on a server and then of course either port to them, or blow them up or do whatever else they want. I swear to god most of you should have to take an exam before being allowed to his the reply button.

Considering any vehicles / tents being laid outside the map boundry are now being deleted -- I would say it's pretty vital to rethink the whole tent storage thing. It's a temporary risky storage for "extra stuff", but you'd be a moron to "hide" your things in plain view with so many people online... People could still hunt down subtle soil mounds next to bushes etc but it would not be as stupidly obvious as a tent you can see miles off.

Just an observation; tractors do not seem to make as much noise and as a result obtain zed attention as one might expect. I drove a tractor along the shore highway and few zed came out of the towns to investigate. I actually tried to save a fellow player by distracting the zed with the tractor, to no avail. As a relative nano, not sure if this applies to the other vehicles as well.

Can you see other vehicles on the map? I think a vehicle becomes visible on the map once it has been "spotted".

AntiVi, more vehicles doesn't necessarily make everyone getting vehicles a breeze.... The amount of coordination, time and effort getting together all the gear and repairing the vehicle is the truly challenging part, not finding a vehicle, especially since the vehicle locations are already known on map databases. It's pretty unrealistic that in an area populated by thousands of people there'd only be 20 repairable vehicles. I highly doubt zombies go around smashing vehicles to bits aimlessly.

Seriously, you are kidding me... The only f** Third Party Programm im using is Six Launcher. And all of that cause i was pissed off in that thread because our tents and vehicles was gone? That cant be true. -.-