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Totally agree, I think every account needs to be reset and all tents and vehicles reset..... How can we test the game when the vehicles are off map and cant be used, or stashed away.... and with all the doubling of weapons in tents etc starting again on a fresh playing field will be a relief until it builds up again.

Instead of removing tents & vehicle storrage, i think it would be better to introduce other forms of character progression that can not be so easily replaced... Gear is only step 1. With it come the Zeds. After those come the 'bandits', dealing with both is surviving. But then (and rocket mentioned this), and i think the mainpage should be changed accordingly (also @dvnt), players should 'thrive' ... Now as long as the game is 'only' about getting gear, then if you are 'thriving' there is no game left? but the moment you introduce other kinds of characterprogression that are not so easily replaced the penatly for death is back again. So something like this suggestion: http://dayzmod.com/f...es-professions/ would totally bring back that 'oohww please don't DIE NOW!!!' feeling i have when i'm playing (as our clan only had a car once, and it got nicked or reset by the server). With such (or any other) progression system, that progression is lost, gear is only a 1.5need (after food/drinks), and the whole tension gets put back into the game for the mid-game experience :) Tents & vehicles actually make the other half of the mid-game experience, and are a great incentive to keep playing. The clan i play with (small 3.5 people) are getting more and more familiar with the game and gearing up goes fairly easy, esp. if we are playing together. So a car (and fixed tents) is (are) what we are looking forward to atm. the tent basically to 'hoard' the things we need to build the car, and to have some gear lying around in case one of us dies. The last thing realy saves us some time getting a player geared up again, and to provide a good meeting place to group back up.. Also, once hacking and duping are fixed; durability is implemented, lootspawns are tired and tweaked, the diversity of items dropped increased (creating more presure on loottables), inventory space/toolbelt reduced, a weight/stamina system implemented (sprint less distance, so you are forced to confront infected more), you will basically need a tent to store a second gun with ammo, since you can't rely on finding more as easily as one does now. And again, with other places that provide character progression and thus loss of value on death, the tension can come from other places instead ;) Forgot one thing, tents&vehicles also provide an added feature to the game: Random loot and repaired vehicle 'spawns' ... nothing brings a tear of joy to your eyes than finding a small encampment stached with bloodbags if you don't have any. And if there is a car at the camp, that just saved you the whole deal of having to find a wreck and repair it! ... and all that without having to code it in !!! :)

I don't need proof. We have the logs showing the hacked in vehicles. EDIT: And now your saying that you didn't fraps it? Come on, whats the story?

Alright as the server admin I'll explain a few things to you two. I guarantee you it's not the first 'heavy' campsite and as for duplicating tents it is a glitch within ArmA 2's code and not a hack. Tents currently either keep what you put into them initially (prior to server restart) or lose everything you put into them. I would like to point out that you did find our camp, but those weren't our vehicles save for the UAZ which we originally stole from some other camp we stumbled on. The other vehicles weren't ours. Also that camp is a high traffic point on the server, we didn't really hide it. I'll state this for clarification. I am the only admin on the server. ( R895 [5CAV] ) I also have only manually reset the server a hand-full of times, reasons being as follows: - Massive FPS drops in Cherno and Elektro (Only twice since we've had it.) - Inability to move on login (Odd, Only happened once today.) - To update BattleEye or the server. - Hacker Kill-All script. (We were hit twice by it today and not once before, I tried a restart as I heard it has a chance of restoring peoples gear. It didn't work so that is some 15 people SOL) - It is or was at the time of this video to restart every six hours though the schedule could be off by a handful of minutes. Once even up to twelve minutes. The restart time is now 12 hours and hoping that doesn't bring back the massive lag that occurred in the main cities. I personally will never care if our camp is raided or vehicles taken. It's part of the game. Will some of the other members get mad? Sure. If they find out who you are no doubt the will gun for you. That video probably got you marked as a KOS by some of them. To Cube7 I can confirm that one member, Spencer did stumble on your bus and light it up. At first he was going to hoard it but decided not to. I am not under the specifics on how he found it or not.

yes i found 3, ill be first to say i started server hoping for em, WHO HASENT? and from what i know heli respawn time and for all vehicles is 24 hrs according to wiki.,... each chopper, on diffrent servers, repaired from diffrent stages... if those choppers were hacked... why did i have to repair 90% of them, and had to have people doing runs night long for parts?? they were LEGIT..... i understand right now its bad... i do... but even in 1.7.1.5 i had vehicles despawn and respawn at there original place, on server restarts.,... let me ASSURE you,,,, in no way were my previous vehicles hacked, even if these heli's were

Hayabusa and I were never on any vehicles on that server and had just recently logged in. Those guys you call "Our friends" were [72nd] whom still play on that server. SHOW ME THE LOGS.

First of all, those vehicles that your friends were riding on weren't "dirtbikes"... They were military motorcycles that are NOT included in the DayZ mod, anybody could confirm this statement. THAT is why your buddies got banned, not because admin abuse, not because we just felt like banning them, because they were HACKING IN VEHICLES. Second of all, the admin, has the server logs on hand which clearly show your buddies hacking in at least 2-4 military motorcycles. So if you really want to fight this battle, go ahead, your not going to win... we have visual proof of your buddies doing the dirty work. We don't just go around banning anybody, go on the server and ask people, everyone will say that the server never has issues with banning innocent players. I for one, can confirm this. I've been playing this server for at least a month, and have grown to be apart of the admins group. I can guarantee you that he doesn't abuse his powers. One of the players that was online when the incident happened, even said they saw the motorcycles being hacked in, they said they saw them appear out of nowhere. Now tell me, hacking in vehicles doesn't deserve a ban? It's exploiting the game. Btw, take a nice long look at the vehicles that are included in the DayZ mod. http://www.dayzwiki.com/wiki/Vehicles

Why bother. They are in such obvious places and its impossible to hide. I set up a base with a couple of vehicles and tents and it gets raided and destroyed. Its easier to just use other peoples tents for storage and steal what you want.

Ah we only killed one guy (24/7 stationed guard im assuming), ran over 6 tents, took one ural and blew up one V3S. Took our bus (that was stolen from us about a week ago) and drove off with our truck we found yesterday and the ural we stole and moved cross-map. Im trying to keep large camps off our server, we usually return most vehicles down near the coast for noobs to use. We keep one truck and the PBX boat, the rest go to the coast (usually) and any tent city larger than 3 tents gets destroyed.

Im part of ]AFG[, what is your in game name, and the names of the people who were banned? it is probably a misunderstanding. we weren't the ones who were on the bike, nor do we have any connection with them. and ]AFG[ is a nice group. Medic is doing his best to insure hackers arent exploiting. and currently, we gave our vehicles away like ericko stated. stop feeding false infromation on the forums. make sure you get your facts strait first. He only bans people who are confirmed scripting. he has his logs open at all times and is always watching.

lol no not same one. None of us died. That is, unless you killed someone else who was looting, We had a V3S, 3UAVs, Mortorcycle, Ural, Car (the crap one) and the hilux and 4 tents. The vehicles and tents were full of gear. When I got on the next day all vehicles were gone but the hilux and moto which were tipped over and the tents were run over. For some reason after the server reset the tents and some fo the vehicles came back. Just gonna use whats left and then use other peoples stuff.

I agree, my team tried to set up tents in different areas, all got destroyed, robbed, and vehicles got stolen. It's pretty much pointless to set up camps, there are enough server hoppers, hackers and whatsoever's who find the stuff in even less than a day.

Okay this event was awesome! I went in there as a newly spawned (Spawned in Otmel about 40 minutes before the event) On the way I didn't find any weapons at all, just ammo and food. In cherno I found an AKM with no mags but I found one earlier. Also found a G17 in one of the pubs later. So armed with AKM with 1 mag and G17 with 2 I go into the center of cherno Anyway. I'm sneaking my way through Cherno and it sounds like new years eve. A lot of shootings but I didn't really find anyone until the Vehicles drives by me (I was only about 200 meter from where they stopped, lucky me) I check the harbor area and takes 3-4 shots at a guy in a ghillie and he drops behind some rubble but isn't dead (I think only 1-2 hit in the torso). There is way too many zombies closing in to my spot to kill him so I make my way around a few buildings, expecting to find players zerg the area by now. But I didn't see anyone so after flanking the buildings I found the cars (I assume I was the first one there since I hadn't heard any engine sounds for a while) so I do a quick 360 check then I take the White off-road pickup and Off I go. But as I was taking the car north It felt lame that I didn't get anything except for a car from this event. My main plan was to practice large scale pvp and maybe get some upgrades. So I leave the car just north of the medium yield barns at Vysota. And head back into Cherno Not much happening there. I hear some gunfire but I couldn't find the shooters. I sneak around for a bit but the time goes and I decide I should just head out of Cherno and get the car out of the south. On the way out I find two dead players. aZk and Joass (something like that). aZk had just standard gear, nothing fancy. But Joass had a ghillie (could be the guy I shot at earlier) and that guy was packed. He had M4 SD, M9 SD, Rangefinder, NVG, GPS, you name it. And also another set of ghillie and camo clothing. So yeah after looting him quickly (I got quite stressed over all the high tier gear that I screwed up the bag swapping so I still got the starter bag =/) On the way out of cherno I think someone fired at me, I'm not sure 100% but it felt like it because it was a single shot from a sniper when I was crossing the road after staying hidden a while. Anyway Thanks a lot for the awesome event. I'm satisfied of my spoils of war =D. Just need to talk the rest of my squad of starting here now that we got a pretty good start.

The most of our time we played dayz in the last 1 month we mostly played in the north of chernarus. Yesterday we went to elektro and got killed three times in a row on different servers from hackers. How do I know they were hacking? Because they had soldier skins and we were on the highest mountain in elektro. We logged in and the first guy died. Then other 4 guys died. After those three times we went back to our base and took new weapons, went back to elektro and again we were killed instantly from some guys. I respawned in Kamenka, saw a guy in Ghilli suit staring to the north. I took a AS50 AWS out of his backpack and tried to kill him but I hadn't any ammonution. I logged out, the gun was gone and I went back to the server. I heard a chopper and went on the top of a hill where a bot was standing in front of a chopper. then a guy appeared right out of nowhere and talked to me in german, he spawned me motorbike and after I 2 minutes he logged off I guessed. I took the motorbike to drive to elektro and take my gear back and suddenly all vehicles were teleporting to one location and the hacker shot all of us. I have screenshots and names too. Now today we had the same in elektro. That's why I write this post. I was logging in behind and between some bushes and a tree. I heard dead bodies and after 5 seconds I got a headshot. WTF is that?? BE is protecting nothing! Even Punkbuster is a better cheatprotection then this shit. And then another thing. Did you notice you can turn off bushes and trees? Why is it even possible to deactivate bushes and trees and the game starts just like you didn't change anything? Why isn't BE checking files, if you changed anything? That's stupid and ridiculous! Then another thing is duping. You are forced to dupe ypur items. One time you don't save your tent, you just forget it and everything is duped. I can't count how many Items we accidentally duped. We took everything out of our tents and brought it to another camp, we saved everything and drove over the tents. After a restart we had duped about 100 weapons and 300 items. We took everything out again and restarted the server. Then admin rights. What am I allowed too? Changing the server description, change to veteran or regular and ban hackers who I can't identify because of really bad server tools. I have a program to read the log files and it helped me a lot to identify hackers. Some guy came on our server and went directly 2 km to our base. On the way he went to the north and took our UAZ which was standing 800 meters away from him. So I could be sure he's a hacker. If I did not had this program I would have never known if it was a hacker. Where the fuck is the RESPAWN button?? Is it funny gameplay to run to a zombie and die to respawn again? Running from wilderness to Kamenka in 7 minutes only to get killed? That's fun? That's fuck! Give us a button to decide where I want to spawn! What's the problem in doing that? I don't want to talk of the many many bugs this game already had before dayz even came out. But day and arma 2 is one big bug. So, enough flaming but it's enough. The hackers are the biggest problem and if there will be no change, dayz will gonna die.

I think I am currently on day 20 or 21, which is my current record. I run in a group of 3 (my brothers) and usually only hang on the outskirts of the map unless medical supplies are needed. We have no camp, only what we can carry. We just roam looking for camps, vehicles and people. One of the three I run with has been alive as long as me, but the other guy was recently killed by an invisible dude and before that he died being our helicopter test pilot. We usually play 2-3 hours a day, on an average of 4-5 days a week... maybe.

I would say, seeing your rig doesn't come untill 2 weeks from now... wait those 2 weeks to see what announcements are being made ... 1 thing is clear, you like DayZ, but surely you didn't just buy the rig just for DayZ, so depending on 2 weeks time you can decide in two weeks what would be best. If by then the standalone alpha comes out in a month (that's 6 weeks from now), then go play some other games for a few weeks, buy the alpha standalone and join in on the fun. At all the 'the game will be finished in...' seeing this game closest to a (MMO-) FPS-RPG or atleast has the aspirations to grow into one, i doubt this game will ever be truely finished :) ... If i be BI & Rocket and would try to aim for christmas next year to get a good decent chunk of development done, to where the game has it's prime functionality without any major bugs. You could call that 'going gold' status, but if I hear Rocket talk about base building and Eve, then it's fairly clear to me that the game may not ever be entirely finished. We might well have to wait untill DayZ-II to have a truely MMOFPSRPG where you can basically travel the whole zombie invested earth, with all sorts of vehicles. Where clans form their own 'provinces' by controlling territories, where there be alliences between clans forming entire contries. And wars are being fought between them for controll over resources ... Well maybe not DayZ-II but it will surely not be by christmass next year :)

Don't put vehicles by tents if you don't want them to get spotted. Vehicles tend to show up in thermal, and depending on your graphical settings they stick out like a sore thumb anyway (a tractor in a forest far away just looks like a cube sticking out of some trees on low detail). If you care about your stuff, don't hoard vehicles - they are best treated as temporary things.

Its def not in DayZ all the vehicles in DayZ are old and crummy looking.

oh and to confirm the admin of the server is medic who is the leader of AFG and AFG is the clan that has givven me lots of stuff including vehicles.. so im really confused.

Don't see the big hardon people have for vehicles, minus the helis for obvious reasons. They are big noisy targets that do what? Cut 20 minutes off a NWAF run? All that work scrounging supplies, fuel and shit just to lose them to a stump you hit or a sniper or better yet a hacker? Bah. If I find one with my group we tool around in it for a while but we don't get that attached to them. By myself I like taking them on a coastal highway joyride riding the horn the whole time, getting shot at then crashing the fucker somewhere in Electro for kicks.

Hi All Today i have banned two players for 7 days for anti-social behavior. What has happend? First of all i know that banning people is not allowed in most cases. Also the way i´ve done today. But: As I logged in today at our camp i found... nothing. All our cars and stuff was away. First i thougt that was a server issue and I done a restart. Still away. So i decided to had a view in the logs. After hours of reading i found out that two guys had driven our cars into the docks of Berezino. We had a Ural, Bus, Pick up, UAZ, GAZ, Hatchback and two ATV´s. Also a Motorbike and a Bicycle. All those vehicles was dropped into the water as i seen it in the coords from the log. This was a great job from these both. And they have my full respect. But we would and had never destroyed vehicles and tents when we found them. Neither we steal all items and vehicles. We want a balance on our server and try to be fair to everyone. This server is not only our territory, it is for all, and every player can take a piece from the cake. Our Clan has 15 Members all those guys are great people with familys and friends and would never act like this. We often find camps from other players. But we have never destroyed anything. What we´ve done was stealing a car when there was many more than one. But we leaved the most items in place. I can understand there point in this act. They wan´t to play the good ones and a Sheriff for the betrayed. But you´re wrong guys. We never use cheats or exploits. We want enjoy the game inside the normal experience. I know there was tons of stuff in our vehicles. But the lost isn´t the bad. We will find new items. Thats one of the best points in this game. To start with nothing, and get more and better stuff as longer you play. Also we are not responsible for the duping bug. We have tryed to destroy as much as possible, but all those items coming back. You´ve done the only way we wan´t do. Drop it into the sea. We have packed all our stuff in the bus and destroyed it with a pipe bomb. After a server restart it was still back as happend nothing to it. I´m sorry about the ban, but this is the only way for me to show these guys that there behavior was not right. You are still welcome after the 7 days. But please play fair and think objectiv before you do a rage action. Comments welcome and sorry for my bad english. Polli

I haven't had a single day someone with a thermal AS50 HASN'T teleported to my camp in over a week. EVERY night... Then the next day is spent repairing and finding the vehicles in hopes that it won't happen the next day. It always does...

I play on this server and you may get in vent at any time, in fact i encourage you or anyone else who has doubts about this server to do so and talk to the admins they are really nice and they hand out vehicles to people, so far i have seen them restart the server to implement banns and to improove load times.. normally when the server is restarted they will send a global message stating why server is restarting.. Like i said im pretty sure this is a case of either you hacking or a missunderstanding seing as how these guys have allways been good to me and gave me vehicles.. just my 2 cents. just for reference.. whats the guys name that u killed on the bike?

A real bandit is someone looking for camps, vehicles, and high level gear players. I spend most of my time North of Stary looting the NWAF, killing NWAF looters, and looking for clans to mess with (who usually put bases on the edge of the map in the North, come on guys you would have better luck putting it somewhere in the middle of the map). If I see somebody running around with a pistol and no primary on their back I might just leave them alone as long as they do not see me. If someone actually makes it up north rocking a hatchet I will kill them just to teach them a lesson not to mess around that far up with such pathetic gear. Killed a guy in the NWAF barracks the other day who had only a M1911 on him, but he might have been on a loot run and made that choice on purpose.

I have put just over 150 hours in this game, exploring the sights, feeling the sheer dread and terror of fleeing from zombies, the shock and adrenaline of being shot at (and not getting hit, at least at first), getting the good loot, dying, getting the good loot again (but faster), trading for the first time, driving every vehicle (yes Huey included, I got shot down over Cherno), feeling the rush of meeting your first friendly survivor, and after all of that I still want to play more. I used the search function on the forums and it seems that people need help with their endgame. If you've already fixed up cars, stashed them and lost them, played medic to friends and strangers, bandit to the unwilling, what else is left to do? Not much, as was already discussed. Instead of complaining about our lack of in-game tools to make the game more sandboxy, why not think bigger and better? How about groups of more than twenty survivors playing friendly? Humor me for a second. If a massive group of like-minded players in a server worked together, we can make a man-made structure near the coast outside of zombie spawns! If you die you take 10-15 minutes to walk back to the fun as opposed to 3-4 hours gearing back up to PvP. People will guard your corpse. Tents will be up full of loot just for our activities. Just a few examples I thought of: 1) If we find two or more of the same type of vehicles, let's make a race track and race! Let's have teams with mechanics to fix the cars and drivers! 2) Gladiator fights with weapons chosen by the crowd! 3) PvE contests where contestants try to kill as much zombies as possible And so on and so forth! People, if you feel like you've done it all like me and you want to make something epic let me know! Your ideas and feelings towards this matter will be greatly appreciated.