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Yeah, I'm getting it on US 904, I have some vehicles on that server and I can't get to them :/

So today, I log on with my brother onto US 1846 and after playing on it for about 3 hours, we got banned. Reason being? We killed the hosts of the server (11th Intelligence division clan) and found their camp. Here's how it started. We were chilling around Stary/Novy waiting for players to run into us, we see 2 choppers flying around and assume it's this clan that has 12 players in the server. At this point, it's easy to tell they must have a base setup somewhere in the north or east to store these 2 choppers. After the server reset (1st time) we setup on the North field of Novy. We then hear a military truck (brown one, no idea of the name) pull up to the white stables w/ the gas tank with about 5-6 players inside. After the server crashes/resets again we see them out in the open, so we open fire. We take out 4 of the 11th division members. The truck drives off and we wait for about 15-25 minutes, then decide to head north to Petrovka/Devils' Castle. On the way to devils castle, we hear a M107 being fired in the field south east of devil's. We take a look and it's 3 players running towards it heading a certain direction. We cautiously circle the Castle for a bit and determine they never went into it, but past it. So we follow the same bearing the group 3 of had. At this point we're at around 063/025ish, and set out map markers to 054/020 ( the next plateau). Lo and behold there was their camp. 3 vehicles, 2 ATVs, a pair of tents, and the rest of their clan members. We take out 2 clan members that happen to log in at a bad time at the camp. The server gets reset again (3rd one at this point), we join in right away after it's been shut down for about 30 minutes to see if we can kill any more of them. We get in, another person is at the camp, we take them out, and that's when it happened. BattleEye:Banned, they figured me out because we were the only non-clan members in the server. They reset the server another time, then they ban my brother. Thankfully, they keep their Teamspeak info publicly available. So I log in, and after waiting a while, a couple of them come into the lobby and ask "what's up?" I asked why I was banned, then they said "We have strong suspicion to believe you're a hacker." I ask where is there proof and they said "Oh, you killed a lot of our clan guys in a short period of time." I explained the whole story to them that I just typed. Their response was "Well, you sound like a total douche bag, and I still believe you're a hacker. Either way, you should play this game like it's meant to, kill some zombies or something. You destroyed my whole clan with your hacks. There's no way you would just stumble upon our camp, no one ever goes to the North. See ya later kid." Then I was banned from the Teamspeak server. TL;DR Kill half of a clan, follow some members North, find their camp, kill some more. Then proceed to get banned for being a bandit. I wish I could have recorded the teamspeak convo, but I had no idea how to. I hope this story is enough evidence.

another great example of admins abusing server restart powers. thanks for the confirmation that you guys do abuse your power :) \ ps. @scrototems, that 300 m at 150m target zeroing? was also a from-the-hip headshot. in the dark :) your welcome for destroying that tractor also :) pss. haven't been seen on the server since? you badmins (see what i did there) have had the server down throughout most of the morning (for which im assuming to get those vehicles back)

I had vehicles yesterday morning (in sweden GMT+1) and today and yesterday noon after a restart they dont spawn anymore. my LID is above 8000 feel free to upvote on this to make it a high priority: https://dev-heaven.net/issues/40381

Hi, I purchased a server about 26 hours ago. During this 26 hours of up time my clan as well as anyone else on the server has checked every vehicle spawn and there has been nothing, is there a delayed spawn or a cooldown timer that starts or should they be there already?

The above is false, you knew what weapons I had and so did he. You had a 4 hour window or greater to ban me, instead you continued to play and were ok with me being on your server. Immediately afterward of destroying your vehicle I got a message and kicked banned because of and it was blank. It appears you kicked someone else for killing you, Main User, and banned them as well. Not very fair behavior if you pack up your toys and throw everyone out who doesn't play the way you want. You restarted because you thought "Zekial" stole your vehicles, and you banned him for believing he stole your vehicles. The heart of it is, I was roleplaying a character and created some chaos. You got mad and banned me, you've done it to others.

If you are doing a command line reset then yes the map will start over as a new mission, you need to actually stop and restart Dayz server side and vehicles/tents etc will re-populate from last hive save. If you are a hosted service, login to your host providers control panel and stop/start your server. If you are hosting it yourself, restart it, the Command line "Restart" will always reset to a fresh map until a proper reset. There are times when you may want to temporarily run a clean map and a CLI restart is handy but I find those very limited. We also found that any vehicles you get this way tend to despawn after a few moments of a proper stop/start and a hive sync so you can't get more vehicles this way :) (For the record we discovered this when Host Altitude lost Control panel due to a 3rd party Data Centre issue and we had to do a CLI reset to fix some MAJOR lag/performance issues then ran for 24 hours before we could do a proper stop start during which time we got a off road pickup, which subsequently vanished)

Another member vouched for you and it was a mistake that I didn't ban you. I just set down core rules to the server that include things like banning hackers and hoarders. While our server is not perfect it is 2 days old and things are changing. Once again I take full responsibility for not banning you from the beginning. You can rest assured that anyone coming on the server with hacked items will be banned as soon as I am made aware of it. I did not say I would ban someone if they touched a vehicle. The server was also not restarted 3 times because we were worried someone was in our camp. 1 - was a scheduled restart and the 2nd was because vehicles weren't showing up after the restart. Take care!

They banned and kicked me as well, see my post. They played with me for over and hour, close to 4+ hours total. Then when I blew up their vehicle justified it as an ok kick since someone had given me an illegitimate weapon (I didn't know it couldn't be used). They were ok with me having it before their car was destroyed. Main User is another admin on the server who plays with Brett, they both horde vehicles and kick/ban when things don't go their way. You were kicked unjustly, I can assure you of that. See the voted off the island part, that's them letting you know you stepped on their toes.

Here's a more detailed log of his movements: DirtyDNA 64882310 Login 15:06:53 Login 64882310 25090014 Activity 15:09:48 3501.99 2292.47 Activity 25090014 Activity 15:10:13 9627.86 3653.09 Activity 25090014 Activity 15:10:43 9647.15 3677.05 Activity 25090014 Activity 15:11:14 9981.1 2865.18 Activity 25090014 Activity 15:11:45 10008.7 2823.83 Activity 25090014 Activity 15:12:12 9998.63 2813.29 Activity 25090014 Activity 15:12:22 9987.29 2787.03 Activity 25090014 Activity 15:13:28 6978.61 3396.61 Activity 25090014 Activity 15:13:56 6920.51 3386.47 Activity 25090014 Activity 15:14:25 6872.96 3385.39 Activity 25090014 Activity 15:14:54 6883.48 3357.6 Activity 25090014 Activity 15:15:21 6888.1 3338.66 Activity 25090014 Activity 15:18:22 6594.71 3287.73 Activity 25090014 Activity 15:19:11 6562.9 3228.98 Activity 25090014 Activity 15:20:15 6563.09 3229.1 Activity 25090014 Activity 15:24:54 6560.43 3227.39 Activity 25090014 Activity 15:27:32 6694.46 3207.75 Activity 25090014 Activity 15:28:01 6694.21 3207.68 Activity 25090014 Activity 15:28:27 6644.86 3179.92 Activity 25090014 Activity 15:29:07 3089.78 7051.65 Activity 25090014 Activity 15:29:09 3089.78 7051.65 Activity 25090014 Activity 15:29:35 3112.71 6966.33 Activity 25090014 Activity 15:30:00 3203.38 6879.5 Activity 25090014 Activity 15:30:26 3277.18 6796.57 Activity 25090014 Activity 15:30:51 3291.52 6784.55 Activity 25090014 Activity 15:31:03 3423.62 6516.55 Activity 25090014 Activity 15:31:49 3476.92 6543.64 Activity 25090014 Activity 15:32:12 3464.1 6562.64 Activity 25090014 Activity 15:32:14 3464.1 6562.64 Activity 25090014 Activity 15:33:24 13376.8 12377.8 Activity 25090014 Activity 15:33:48 13385.5 12383.8 Activity 25090014 Activity 15:34:13 13472.8 12367.6 Activity 25090014 Activity 15:34:36 13499.3 12393.6 Activity 25090014 Activity 15:35:24 13522.6 12409.8 Activity 25090014 Activity 15:36:15 13514.6 12393.5 Activity 25090014 Activity 15:37:21 13550.1 12386.8 Activity 25090014 Activity 15:38:25 13564.2 12428.5 Activity 25090014 Activity 15:38:58 13564.3 12428 Activity 25090014 Activity 15:39:20 13543.7 12425.5 Activity 25090014 Activity 15:40:24 13552.7 12417.8 Activity 25090014 Activity 15:40:52 13552.7 12417.8 Activity 25090014 Activity 15:41:38 13546.7 12430.2 Activity 25090014 Activity 15:42:04 13543.7 12418.2 Activity 25090014 Activity 15:47:56 13517.2 12375.9 Activity 25090014 Activity 15:48:19 13524 12389.8 Activity 25090014 Activity 15:48:42 13515.8 12381.1 Activity 25090014 Activity 15:49:04 13541.5 12416.3 Activity 25090014 Activity 15:54:33 10228.9 2410.03 Activity 25090014 Activity 15:55:29 10237.5 2415.22 Activity 25090014 Activity 15:56:47 10254 2486.26 Activity 25090014 Activity 15:57:15 10275.8 2554.04 Activity 25090014 Activity 15:57:32 10407 3031.93 Activity 25090014 Activity 15:57:59 10373.1 3034.43 Activity 25090014 Activity 15:58:29 10319.3 3106.65 Activity 25090014 Activity 15:58:56 10316.8 3128.2 Activity 25090014 Activity 15:58:58 10316.8 3128.2 Activity 25090014 Activity 15:59:26 10309.4 3205.19 Activity 25090014 Activity 16:02:29 10463.6 2324.22 Activity 25090014 Activity 16:02:59 10454.3 2343.8 Activity 25090014 Activity 16:03:24 10437.2 2381.85 Activity 25090014 Activity 16:03:49 10376.5 2410.33 Activity 25090014 Activity 16:04:12 10350.1 2409.98 Activity 25090014 Activity 16:08:38 10361.2 2386.32 Activity 25090014 Activity 16:08:58 10361.2 2386.35 Activity 25090014 Activity 16:09:18 10324 2392.03 Activity 25090014 Activity 16:09:42 10270.9 2389.83 Activity 25090014 Activity 16:10:04 10235.5 2397.13 Activity 25090014 Activity 16:10:09 10232.2 2399.46 Activity 25090014 Activity 16:10:26 10209.8 2413.36 Activity 25090014 Activity 16:11:07 10175.1 2428.38 Activity 25090014 Activity 16:11:28 10141.9 2428.73 Activity 25090014 Activity 16:11:50 10081.9 2405.07 Activity 25090014 Activity 16:13:28 13037.3 3291.15 Activity 25090014 Activity 16:13:59 13070.7 3366.11 Activity 25090014 Activity 16:14:09 13172.7 3492.53 Activity 25090014 Activity 16:15:52 13767.5 4096.74 Activity 25090014 Activity 16:16:28 13718.6 4446.76 Activity 25090014 Activity 16:16:48 13608.3 4813.65 Activity 25090014 Activity 16:17:10 13561.5 4928.45 Activity 25090014 Activity 16:17:34 13551.1 4945.83 Activity 25090014 Activity 16:17:56 13216 7008.68 Activity 25090014 Activity 16:18:20 13210.7 7020.76 Activity 25090014 Activity 16:18:43 13170.2 7072.09 Activity 25090014 Activity 16:19:34 13166.1 7082.18 Activity 25090014 Activity 16:20:07 13158.7 7097.92 Activity 25090014 Activity 16:20:29 13155.3 7110.61 Activity 25090014 Activity 16:20:33 10043.2 2863.65 Activity 25090014 Activity 16:20:53 10072.8 2846.78 Activity 25090014 Activity 16:21:05 10560.9 2876.5 Activity 25090014 Activity 16:21:26 10556.6 2872.04 Activity 25090014 Activity 16:23:16 10556.8 2872 Activity 25090014 Log out 16:23:21 Log out 64882310 Activity 16:23:21 10556.8 2872 Activity 25090014 That lists the times and his X/Y coordinates. As you can see, there are moments where he jumps great distances in small timeframes, eg: Activity 15:28:27 6644.86 3179.92 Activity 25090014 Activity 15:29:07 3089.78 7051.65 Activity 25090014 In 40s he's gone 3.6km west and ~4km north. Activity 15:32:14 3464.1 6562.64 Activity 25090014 Activity 15:33:24 13376.8 12377.8 Activity 25090014 In ~1m he goes 10km east and ~6km north. Activity 16:17:34 13551.1 4945.83 Activity 25090014 Activity 16:17:56 13216 7008.68 Activity 25090014 Here he goes ~2km north in 22s. This is so frustrating. My clan and I spent a long time scouring the server for vehicles and building our camp in a remote location and someone comes along and seems to know exactly where we are and jumps around the map to kill us and destroy all our vehicles. Makes me question the $50/month I'm spending on a server. :(

All I hear is an admin whining about how it's unfair that people are keeping vehicles where he is too lazy to go for them.

I blew up their van and was kicked by the admin Brett for blowing up their vehicle he then said he could do that and was recording me. I anticipate them posting the recordings. His justification was I was given a hacked weapon, I don't know if that's true or not, but I can throw the weapon away if it was. He went to check logs and immediately banned me after he realized I blew up his vehicle. He banned 2 other players before that for taking his vehicle as well. There are multiple reports of the admins "Main User" and "Brett" kicking and banning people for killing them, or taking their things. Here is another user who was banned for taking their vehicle http://dayzmod.com/forum/index.php?/topic/63219-us1917-admin-kicking-after-killing-them-adminbrettwig33/ He had threatened to ban anyone who touched his vehicle while in TS, and had known that I had the weapon on me prior to grouping up with me, I did not know the weapon was hacked, I do not play this game that often and know very little of what spawns where or how. I was given it by someone who helped me from the Reddit Rescue Squad and he told me it was ok. Anyway, the summation of this is that Brett kicked and banned me after going through his logs to prove I blew up his vehicle (they have at least 4 vehicles admittedly) and then justified it afterwards by saying it was because of the weapon that he did that. He played with me for over an hour prior to that and knew about that because he checks the logs. He also restarted the server 3 times to make sure that there were not a lot of people in the server and to get all his vehicles back at his base. I have no issues in battleeye and would drop the weapon now that I know it is an issue, I do not wish to engage in helping hackers. I am willing to post screen shots of my ARMA 2 folder to show I have no scripts or join any battleeye server, I've survived 6-7 days with this character and if I was a hacker I can say it would have probably been an easier few days since I walked everywhere and never had use of a vehicle. He made several threats to ban me server wide. My point here is even if the weapons were hacked, when/if you are on a server with someone and they give tons of people hacked items, would you then have to kick ban every one of those players, even if they didn't know they had been using items that are out of the game. Here are some of the logs where he messaged me: <02:32:57> "Brett": sending your ip and guid to our joint servers. enjoy multi server ban <02:33:06> "George": For what <02:33:13> "George": What proof do you have I did anything <02:33:30> "George": Other than blew up your vehcile <02:34:21> "Brett": you have a hacked item you may have received it from someone but you are a suspected hacker. enjoy the ban. this is what happens in life when you become an asshole. enjoy the banz :D (This is him referencing that I blew up his vehicle and this is why he is evoking the ban now) <02:35:33> "Brett": You done whining about being banned bro? <02:37:28> "George": The guy zekial told me you banned him for taking your vehciles <02:43:52> "Brett": any other game i spend money on a server i can do what i want with it. DayZ on the other hand I am powerless to do what I want and I have to cater to little assholes like yourself. Understand that you reporting my server is not an issue to me. In the rare case I lose the server I will sit back and laugh and play on someone else's dime like you do. I gave them a link to this to give them a chance to argue against it, but until then I say it's admin abuse.

Yes, but the area is very big, i saw players driver 2 days ago 163, -010... We never saw a vehicle in the map, we think they are all outside the area, or at least not within the playing-area. It's also that if vehicles are refreshed every 24 hours that they are not wiped, even if they are outside the boundaries. Most tents have same stuff and more satchel-charges. But the tents aren't the issue, duping is taking place on great scale, it are the vehicles that can't be found and are on places outside map/ or playing area that disturbs me. Other players (including us) can't find it, because the area is to big. We have found some tents near boundaries and bike outside with truck 1 time. But it isn't fun playing this way. We only walk now on boundaries to look for vehicles... that should not be the way to play....

Hey what type of player are you like stick around in big citys or raid military bases find vehicles and crashed heli kind of guy???? And I'm more of the military guy so if you are let me know. Skype: thisissnivel

I have had my server for a week now or longer and no vehicles at all. How do i check server ID number?

Earlier this evening my team and myself noticed that there were items in our tents that were not only not there when we left, but not native to DayZ. After confirming that one of our own hadn't been playing any funny business we decided that we needed to move camps. During my teammate (Frijoles) and my ([NToD] puerco) trek up to our camp our other teammate ([NToD] Reaper) had seen someone trying to loot one of our tents, no big deal as thats life, he then shot said person (Sterling) in the face only to have him ALT-F4. At this point we decided to high tail it up to our camp, use any vehicles that we had at our disposal (2 tractors, 1 atv, and 1 old hatchback) to transport our goods to another location. Once we had loaded everything up we made a plan to move our gear over to 055,009 as a staging point so we wouldn't be surprised on our exodus. The second that I got our ATV to 055,009 a motorcycle spawned in right behind my position with two players on it. The passenger got off the bike, I shot him in the vicinity of 10-12 times with an L85 center mass and he then proceeds to shoot me in the head with an Enfield. At around 11:10 PST, I die. As soon as I die and I report it via skype one of my teammates ([NToD] reaper) hops off his tractor, kneels to scope the situation and then is shot in the head by someone who teleported behind him 1:10 CMT. Last but not least my last teammate (Frijoles) was killed by someone who teleported in and instantly was able to lock on to his location and shoot him 4:10 +10UTC. Our main concern is to get rid of hacking. Is there any way to punish the folks that perpetrated this action? Thanks much.

Now that´s the mainproblem. i would rather see that they take away the abillity to stash into cars. If you only can use it to transport people maybe players use it more like it´s ment to be. on the roads. another ide is to have new spawned vehicles after every time the server starts over where the car is missing if the abillity to stash things in them is removed. Thats because if you still can stash things inside you will see people horde even more vehicles and like a hangover you will see more lagg aswell. But without the stash-system maybe players is´nt so afraid to lose their cars.

pretty sure in another post it said vehicles outside server boundary are reset after 6 hours, even then. you see their camp? go raid it. OR... just toss a nade or two (Edit. Also... how do u know they are duping tents? I've had 15 setup in the same spot before all legit)

Is it possible to set a warning in the server-text to only save vehicles and tents within the map-boundaries? We have our own server and play know for a while and we discovered yesterday that a group of players are playing outside the map boundaries. They have at least 4-5 vehicles, boats at shore (we found) They not playing the game with other players on the server, they are playing their own game. Can it be a server- rule to save all vehicles and tents inside the map as on http://www.dayzdb.com/. That way other players has also a chance to get some wheels. Vehicles are saved only 24 hours by the hive, but they refresh them within these 24 hours i think. I think playing outside map, duping tents etc is a form of cheating, can we do anything about it? (welcome message with this rule etc)

??? You mean to tell me that i am paying 50 per month for a server that will not spawn vehicles? Should i shut down my server until they are spawning? How can they in good conscience keep allowing people to buy new servers when they are not even spawning vehicles. I get that its an alpha but all the other servers have vehicles, seems pretty crappy that mine gets screwed.

We lost our camps and vehicles twice so far. We lost our satchels and m136 but it kept our mp5's and m4's for some reason. We're also hidden where no one else goes so that's out of the question.

I don't feel that increasing the number of vehicles would be of much help, unless the variety was also increased. I wouldn't mind having a Mi-8 HIP as a transport helicopter, or maybe a couple SUV type vehicles.

This part of the game, is a bit, meh. Its not the kind of gameplay we really want to see. People having to go miles north and hiding things off the map, because they know when they come back there stuff will be gone. While not all of this is when a players offline, a large chunk of it is. I tried to think of what being offline could mean in DayZ. My first thought was that it simulates sleep, but you would wake up if someone was in your tent.. It doesnt really simulate anything, its a time when you are completely inactive. My suggestion therefor, is that somewhere down the line, tents only become interactive when the player who owns them is online. However harsh the game is, you at least deserve the chance to be able to defend your stuff. As far as vehicles go, I dont think they should go the same way, just because if it did, everyone would start getting vehicles. But you should at least be able to lock the vehicles. Implement some sort of key system and a hotwiring system. Could also have a key replicating piece of equipment. Just something, stuff being targeted just because you cant spent 24/7 defending it, is not how this game should be

Most groups of friends/players are looking for one specific server to make their home, to store items and vehicles. Atleast i do.

I agree COMPLETELY. We need more vehicles, period. As of right now it is basically impossible to find vehicles due to the fact that their spawn points are fixed, and very limited. Due to the nature of this game being persistent, vehicles are constantly dominated by other players (especially clans), thus preventing them from re-spawning. Additionally, with the scarcity of vehicles as they are, looking for player hidden vehicles is hopeless. The issue with the scarcity of vehicles is that running everywhere on foot is not economical, and more importantly, it is NOT fun. I like the realism of this game - I really do - but the only time I've ever actually had fun have been the two occasions I was able to get a running vehicle, and on one of those occasions, I only had the vehicle because we encountered a hacker who happened to be non-hostile and left his hacked motorcycle. The fact of the matter is that vehicles encourage people to group together, and moves gameplay along more quickly. - Vehicles should not have fixed spawn points. Nothing else in this game has a fixed spawn. The only comparable items are medical supplies in the hospitals, which are logical, and are still subject to random generation. I know it is possible to spawn vehicles in at least a semi-randomized manner consistent with things like gear and helicopter crash sites. - Vehicles must be more highly populated. If I were to walk outside my house right now, I would have my pick of literally thousands of vehicles, within a 5 mile radius. Now I'm not saying the game should have thousands of vehicles, but come on. There have to be more than, what, 25 vehicles in 225 sq km of landmass. - Vehicles should have more limited storage. Being able to store 10 rifles plus ammo plus 40 other items plus 2 backpacks on an atv is just not realistic. Vehicles should not serve as storage units, unless they actually are the size of a storage unit, like a truck or a bus. I like that vehicles spawn in disrepair - it is actually why they should be more common. By keeping the spawn rate of repair parts the same as it is now, or even making them more rare, and increasing the number of vehicles, parts and gas will become a commodity, much the way medical supplies, food, weapons, and ammo are now - but with a difference. A single player can easily carry enough food, medicine, and firepower to take care of themselves quite well. However, a single player cannot easily carry all of the parts necessary to repair and maintain a vehicle. With a vehicle in reach, a few people running into each other in Cherno can suddenly become mutual beneficiaries. I know this is true because I've been witness to it. Also, with vehicles more common, exploring and looting will be a more viable option than simply killing players and farming bodies for equipment. Right now, it is easier to find an ak-74 than it is to find a car. It's not realistic, and it too heavily biases PvP style gameplay. Don't get me wrong, PvP is good - It's what makes the game tense. But without some balance of trust and doubt, there is no tension. Kill on site is the standard modus operandi, which means that I know exactly what to expect from any player I encounter. Expected behavior does not equal tension. I really want to see some of these more brave overhauls of the game. It's in ALPHA for crying out loud! Let's SEE what happens when there are 50+ vehicles on the map. It can always be changed in another update.