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This is going to be set back until the Standalone goes Live to hopefully avoid the ScriptKiddies I had the idea of trying to set up a trading outpost on a server in dayz, to make this work i would need three sets of people, people who go out and loot items that people will require, i will need the traders and lastly i will need the security. I'm not entirely sure how many people i would need for this but if anyone is interested post a comment please. I am thinking about setting up the trading outpost in the fields at stary sobor. i am planning to do this because of the high amount of empty fields that the downed choppers can spawn at and the close proximity of the NW airfield and the stary military tents which would give us a large income of supplies for the trading, the whole thing would be secured from the zombies by the use of sandbag walls or other fortifying materials as zombies cannot climb over sandbags and we would also have the security stationed around the trading outpost to make sure no one causes trouble. the only way i can get this to happen is with the support of the community so thanks for even reading this also sorry if this is being posted in the wrong place i dont use forums a lot. thanks We now have a place for the trading outpost to be placed and we have decided how it is going to be set out. all we need now is more people and more people that are willing to go around to find sandbags, wire fences and stuff like that including tents cheers EDIT we now have some vehicles and we have started collecting barbed wire kits and sandbags so once i get to where im going im gonna start building the trading outpost. we will still need more people to help and we will also need more sandbags and wire fencing kits once again thanks for all the help EDIT we have now started building the trading outpost now called Chern R us trading from a contribuition from TheSO, but we have run out of materials at the min so as soon as we get those and finish building we can start trading. EDIT we have run into a slight problem that has caused the plans to stall until it is fixed. our vehicles despawned so once we have got new ones and got everything we need then we will be ready but it might be a little while because of the random chances of finding vehicles

So let me give you some background before I get into the meat of this story. On the server I play on we have been plagued by alt + f4 people and server hoppers (usually the same people) who raid our barracks, see loot, take loot, jump to another server and rinse repeat until they have all the gear they want. Recently an SVD camo dropped and we needed another but the guy who found it didn't have the room. I was in South Barracks and he was North so I made my way there while he stepped out to check the outside of the barracks. In the time it took him to do one sweep of the (sniper hills) a person had jumped in, got the rifle and jumped out. We, as a clan, got sick of it so we started thinking of ways to combat the issue and stick it to these assholes. The first idea was for us to simply sit outside watching the windows and headshot people as they come in. This become a very large security risk as it took three people minimum to do this. One watching the window and two doing overwatch or two and one, depending on the people online. This was because at south barracks people tend to spawn OUTSIDE and then run into the barracks, loot, and run back out to hop to another server. We scrapped this idea because it was just too risky after a near miss from a hopper almost dropping one of our overwatch. I am now sharing our current plan and it works extremely well. Our clan had a surplus of satchel charges sitting around that we never used due to us never finding a good use for them other then blowing up vehicles we wanted to respawn and blowing up camps, so we took one of them to the North barracks at night and set up. In order to completely destroy the barracks 100% of the time the satchel charge MUST be placed at the third door in, count them like this. 0. Shower room. 1. Loot room. 2. Loot room. 3. Loot room. (Satchel charge here) 4. Loot room. The charge is placed in front of the door in the hallway of loot room 3. Move out and a good distance away from the building and detonate. (for added fun, wait till a server hopper hits the barracks THEN detonate, 2 birds one stone). Once this is complete you will be left with a completely ruined building and rubble all over the ground but the LOOT WILL CONTINUE TO SPAWN, EVEN WHEN MOVED (loot piled) ELSEWHERE. Well done, you have now created a death trap on anyone who comes into the barracks, let me explain. When you detonate a building the server registers the explosion every time you log in and log out, doing so close by you can actually hear the explosion as you load in. When a played logs into the barracks they log in on a rubble pile and or an area now completely gone and the game reacts the same was as if you were crawling on a rock. The game bugs out and the player in question is knocked out, bleeding, broken legs and sometimes shock. You can get any of these issues and or all of them upon logging into the server as well as absolutely no cover from the barracks making you an easy target. Players who log in are now easy pickings for you and you get all the delicious loot they have gathered from ALL the other servers they have hopped from. :) WARNING : WANDERING NEAR THE BARRACKS TO COLLECT YOUR LOOT CAN SOMETIMES GIVE YOU THE ABOVE EFFECTS DUE TO THE DESTROYED BUILDING BUG. COLLECT LOOT AT YOUR OWN RISK AND CARRY MORPHINE + BANDAGES AT ALL TIMES WHEN CHECKING THE LOOT. Beans if you found this useful. Enjoy cleansing your server of the plague that is server hopping :D

My server's instance ID is >6k and we have vehicles...

Restarting the mission does not clear vehicles or tents. Lately the server forums are just chalk full of people dispensing bogus information.

It is very possible your vehicles were destroyed via a hack. Now you are stuck waiting for them to respawn. Should you wish to hasten their resetting, restart the DayZ mission. Not the server, the Mission. Doing so will reset your vehicles. It will also clear away tents and other placeables. It's just a complete DayZ reset.

It's pretty clear that all that's being looked for here is clarification. The issue isn't that he wants his clan to have all the vehicles, it's that he wants to be able to play on the server he/his clan pay for and have at least a chance of finding vehicles, rather than a partially functional server. As for "they don't care how many people rent servers," that's just silly. Of course they care. They need people to rent and run servers with their mod so that it continues to get publicity so that when the Standalone comes out there is a community waiting. Without servers they have no community and far fewer assured purchases of the game.

I agree with Worsin, its really frustrating having a 50% working server, im ok with playing on it and looking for crash sites but thats pretty much it, i know i cant find any broken huey, no atv, no bike no nothing and im 99% sure of this since it's been reported by the players on my server, they dont like it, i dont like it. One day we had vehicles, next day we didnt have them anymore. EDIT: If we wanted a server only for vehicles we could just host a private hive, i dont want a private hive, i want the legit version of a server, but i sure as hell want it to work better than the private ones, and at this point it really isnt.

Vehicles are a huge part of the game but not all of it. I want my own server that has vehicles. Why would i want to play on a server and pay for a server that has no vehicles? All you have done in your posts is try to argue against my wanting an official response. You take my words and twist them in a way to make them support your argument. Are you a woman?

Hackers are of course just the Arma2 dev team showing off the fun vehicles and weapons in their game in spite of zombie fans that came for dayz! Rocket is behind every hacker activity.... i know it. How do i know? I JUST DO

I know why a clan wants their own server but you seem to only want to have a server because you want vehicles (you even said that). You either want your own server, or you don't. If you want one, you don't care about vehicles and a possible bug that may prevent them from spawning. Such a bug will get fixed - period. So better get your argumentation straight befor you presume I'm trolling and call me ignorant buddy.

My server has an instance ID over 6000. It has vehicles, plenty of them actually. Don't assume your server won't get vehicles, just because there's a rumor floating about.

lingor is a biatch to get running right, but if you do... its got bandit skin mechanism, tons of vehicles everywhere that dont need repair, tons of equipment everywhere..... more difficult terrain to navigate. peace

Let's say you get the vehicles. And let's say someone raids your camp and takes them. Then what? Server reset? If you and your clan want some vehicles, go find some and take them. I play either alone or in a group of 2 people, and so far I found 1 Ural, 1 bike and 1 ATV (oh, and I saw an epic Huey crash in Electro). Sorry, but buying (more like renting) a server to get your hands on some vehicles is IMO just cheap and somewhere around the level of hacking.

You ask for constructive criticism, then respond with nothing but rage to people who eloquently explain why things are the way they are, and the fact that you apparently can't draw the parallels between certain concepts of MMO design and this game only further displays your ignorance. Based on your reactions to anyone who hasn't flat out agreed with you, this post is nothing more than you grand-standing and begging people to stroke your ego by telling you how awesome your idea is. First, the AS50 is better in nearly every single situation than the DMR. It is a 1 shot kill at any range, unlike the DMR which requires 3 and sometimes even 4 shots to kill. This allows the victim of your DMR to alt-f4 if you're firing beyond about 300 meters. Within that distance, granted, you might be able to land 3 hits before they can react, but at a longer distance you often have to wait a second for recoil and passive sway to calm down before firing accurately again. This also brings up the fact that although the DMR has a larger magazine, unless you're getting 100% headshots the AS50 has more potential kills per mag. Even landing 100% of your shots the DMR can kill 6 people per clip; the AS50 can kill 10 (loaded with M107 of course; the AS50 mags are for vehicles, not people). This brings up another point in that the DMR is fairly weak against most vehicles, while the AS50 when loaded with NATO rounds can one shot just about any vehicle in the game. Yep, helicopters too. The AS50 also has an extended zoom range, and can be manually zeroed. The DMR has no manual zero, and therefore is only effective if the shooter is extremely skilled at judging range or is within about 300 meters where the sight is naturally zeroed. The one and only situation the DMR has an advantage in is during night time combat with NVGs. The DMR is the only sniper rifle you can use NVGs and the scope with. Even this meager advantage assumes that you have an item (NVG) that is incredibly more rare than the DMR itself, and that you're not playing on a server with crosshairs. A skilled player can use the crosshairs with the AS50 to take out a target at 300-500m, allowing it to be used at night with NVGs anyway. Second, this game does share many design concepts with standard MMO gameplay. Granted, there are no quests and you don't "level up" (debatable, as acquiring toolbelt items and a better backpack could be seen as incremental improvements to your character), but the most important aspects of this game are decidedly MMO in nature: loot and open world pvp. What is the ultimate goal of DayZ? For most people, it's simply to acquire better loot. What is the ultimate goal of an MMO? The same. Aspects such as rarity versus quality (the EXACT THING YOU'RE DEBATING HERE), placing loot in harder to get to (read; "higher level") zones, these are absolutely MMO concepts being applied in DayZ. And for those of you who answered "nuh uh, my only goal is to fuck with people!" congratulations, that's open world pvp in a nutshell, and yeah MMOs invented that shit. See, that's how you debate child. You take the idea someone else had, analyze it, and then create a coherent response based on logical points that either agrees with or disagrees with their idea. Simply calling everyone who disagrees with you stupid and yelling "NO I'M RIGHT SERIOUSLY GUYS" isn't a debate, that's a temper tantrum.

It took my server 3 days to get vehicles, we had them for like 3-4 restarts and now they're mysteriously gone again. My instance id is well above 6k.. even above 8k, i was told it can take up to 7 days for vehicles to spawn on a server from a ticket i made at the support site, when i made another ticket about them mysteriously dissappearing he told me to make a ticket on dev-heaven: https://dev-heaven.net/issues/40381

The problem is a TON of new servers have NO VEHICLES AT ALL and all we have are rumors on why this is so. I am just asking for some sort of response from the team so i know exactly whats going on time wise and can plan things for my clan. If its going to be months before vehicles are live on other servers then im not going to bother paying for a server for those months. Why am i getting flamed for wanting information so i can make purchasing decision? I dont care if it takes 4 months to fix...just tell me so i am not wasting my money on a broken server.

The sugestion is this: game need a fix urgent. The hackers are destroying the mod. The code is broken, I do not know how fix this because i m not a programmer, but i know it need to be fixed . I can help design things, because i m drawer and have too much imagination. perhaps by removing the summon items and vehicles code from the mod, and the teleport.

If they want people that are paying for servers to keep doing so then i think they do owe us at least some sort of time frame. Why would i want to pay for a server that has no vehicles at all. For us that is half the game.

I have been comming across alot of vehicles lately that i cannot enter, only save. I found a helicopter the other day and i was able to get into every position in it except the pilot,. Next day i came across 2 vehicles on a hill and it only gave me the save only option. I dont get why it wont let me in the vehicles, but yet i see so many people in vehicles, i have been in vehicles before , its not that i dont know how to get in them, it wont let me in or give the option. PLEASE HELP

what's the problem with vehicles? i play with just another guy so find a nd repair a vehicle is quite an effort, but it's a lot that i don't see nothing on wheels...and also when we manage to do some vehicle run we never find anything..

Excuse me but we started a clan and wanted our own server that didnt have all the vehicles etc horded by the clan that owns the other server. What is so hard to understand about wanting some clarity on the progress so we can make educated decision?

Haha well at least now I know who keeps killing our new guys at stary. I usually stay away from there but if I were to take a guess you were the one that got me and two others over at one of our camps and proceeded to destroy the vehicles. One thing though we don't kick people from out server as far as I am aware. We have done many restarts and I mean MANY. Which does involve us all getting kicked and losing our bodies. Plus w/e stupid other stuff that disappears during this time.

So I'm the Norway 28 server admin. Just spawned so I don't have a map myself, but 5 of my friends told me they could see EVERYONE on the map including all vehicles. Wtf am I supposed to do with this shit? Ran a server restard, but if it doesn't get sorted it's nothing I can really do about it.

Buying a server to get all the vehicles you otherwise wouldn't get, then whining because of a possible bug that prevents you from getting the expectet advantage? Sounds legit.

Yep. Finding other people's stuff has become a fun past time. So, yeah, there's really no security. But then that's really life. But then again, it's hard to say what exactly is the probelm. Tents come and go now...they're there, got stuff, saved, server restart, they're gone. A couple restarts later they're back but with different stuff. Some times they are bugged and you can't add anything...but the good news is you'll never run out of NVG's because the same two pair are there every time the server restarts. That last parts not as fun as it sounds...I swore to the gods I had put another DMR and the ammo I found in one of our tents...but it wasn't there. It wasn't until a couple days later when I KNEW I had put that AK74 I had picked up after a new life...only to find it gone and all the same stuff in there that I figured out that tent was bugged and was never gonna let me add stuff. Vehicles come and go to. So, it's hard to tell...hackers? Bugs? Raiders? Can't really answer until the tent and vehicle bugs are fixed (hopefully in the mod for some stability for other features to be worked out for the stand alone). I don't hackers...they don't need to raid your stuff. Besides, thunderdoming and letting you do some HALO without a parachute seems more interesting. As far as where you are placing them? Yeah...good luck with that. Every one looks for them. And that 70's washed out woodland texture is really easy to spot...so...it's kinda a fun game to look for them. As an aside, I would like to see a better tent texture, or textures...and I would love some camo netting to. Real cmo netting...the kind that jacks with IR. Oh...that would be a nice addition to the camo clothes - IR resistent (and after I jacked with that guy about him wanting to make camo clothes specialer). Out.