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I think a big problem and one why our group hasnt been playing lately and that is you cannot save vehicles or tents. What this means is our end game goals of stocking our tents or finding vehicles is over until they fix this. The only option left is go snipe noobs or fill up your backpack. Think I will wait for the tents and vehicles to get fixed, at least we had a goal then.

Guys just another reminder that this server is now showing in browsers as UK242, This is due to the location code being used by another server. If you used UK123 as your home server (camps,vehicles etc) they are still there on UK242 Please log back on. My server misses you!

I like it. Then players could have speed-runs through DayZ. It would be necessary to fix loot spawns of course, especially when it comes to vehicles. One possible option would be a widget (like a FoF identifier) that you need to build by collecting different pieces from loot spawns to get past the blockades that will keep people from storing crap off the map eventually. Once you have that, you can build/steal a vehicle and drive through the blockade to the end game with the game keeping track of play time required. A lot of it would be random, of course, so that might be a problem for people comparing their stats (but what in this game isn't randomized?)

People are starting to hide vehicles in inaccessible buildings as well.

Don't worry, i have been playing for months too, and i never ever find good loot, like NVG's cool scoped guns, and i also have looted shitloads of barracs deerstands and crashed helicopters. I just think i'm unlucky, the whole community walks around with big backpacks, the whole toolbelt full, 2 main scoped weapons and a tent camp the Roma's would be jelous to. I can't pitch a tent gave up on it weeks ago, i can't find no vehicles, even with running a maraton each night. But still i'm not complaining, i manage to survive and have some fun.

I must admit... I was a little disappointed Dogs were the newest addition to the game. I was hoping it would be more teamplay aspects or perhaps even additions to the late game. I understand that Rocket is under pressure and there's only so many hours in a day - but dogs feels like a very minor addition to a game that is still in desparate need of a late-game play. After you've played 50 hours, chances are you've obtained most of the guns, most of the vehicles and had a fair share of PvP. And then what? I'm really hopeful that the patch after 1.7.3 will include some big improvements to the state of the late game as right now this game starts to become boring after the first 50-100 hours of play unless you're happy sitting in Cherno or Elektro sniping all the time...

Forgott your plans :) ... thats 90% just for the lulz and 9% Traps and 1% are retard enouth to mark the own Vehicles/Camps...

Joined BSB over 2 weeks ago and has been non stop dayz of awesome and mayhem. Our raid video has already been uploaded but we regularly get into firefights, ambush vehicles, get ambushed in vehicles, raid camps and defend ours. Running around with a consistent group of 4-8 players makes a massive difference to your day in the game. I highly suggest heading over to http://www.bsbnetwork.com/home and registering. There are plenty of social channels to join and once you have got a group you play with regular you can make yourself into a Fireteam and do whatever you like in game. Come join the Mayhem [bSB] Lickaholic

Same on ours. (us 2503) We just went back to the old patch til fixed. Vehicles were turning into bicycles.

Wtf do I care what other people do. I just kill other people. Someone in our crew always rolls with a .50 in his pack for stopping vehicles. You're a gimp bro. Military sim.

If we could attain meat from dead players (like from animals) but use this meat to bait zombies. This could also mean carrying it attracted them more easily, so its a risk/reward situation. - You set it down on the ground, attracting zombies into a trap (bear traps or satchels). -Putting it in vehicles would cause zombies to chase the vehicle over players. - Sneaking and placing it in someones bag would cause them to be chased over you. - Throwing it would work as a super effective smoke granade. ALSO Cannibalism a possibility only if the humanity is low enough (say -1000 or so) Thoughts?

Rubbish, vehicles can't shoot back and normal firearms still damage them.

Hey kozzy, I was actually the guy that shot you both north of Elektro. We found the ATV sideways on the docks and with a little maneuvering we flipped it back to normal. We started heading north out of Elektro and just after passing the power plant we look to the left and see you guys in the V3S barrelling through the field between the barn and the power plant, right at us. I had a mark 48 so my first instinct was to get out and just light the vehicle up in hopes of making it explode. I got out and started firing, my friend got out but there's that second or two lag where you can't move right after you get out of a vehicle, and you guys crushed him, his body went flying up sniper hill. Then you guys turned away from me, down towards Elektro and I thought you were going to get away. Then suddenly the vehicle stops and I see a death message (driver aka OP). My bullets must have landed. The other guy got out of the passsenger side, bleeding, and went prone immediately but I fired a couple bullets into him and he was down as well. I was pretty terrified at that point since we were right between sniper hill and counter sniper hill, so I hastily hopped in the V3S (without even looting your bodies) and got the hell out of there. My friend ended up getting a decent spawn and got back and grabbed the ATV in time. We left your bodies unhidden with your loot on it in case you came back since we had no intention of sticking around. After that we found a spot in the woods to hide for the night, we used both vehicles for another day or two before they got stolen. It was definitely one of the most intense experiences I've had in DayZ so far so thank you guys for contributing to it! Good times! -Cramer

if a vehicle has been destroyed it normally takes 7 days to respawn, make sure you have all the right parts to fix the vehicle other than that it may be glitched and not worth the effort, (maybe why it was dumped there in the 1st place) Most of the vehicles on a server have been hidden by clans or small groups... scour the edges of the maps or up nr Gumba and you may strike it lucky. in the latest patch though vehicles don't tend to save for some reason and are a little bit of a waste of time.

sometimes it's hard to get the damaged section you want to repair to appear in the scroll list and it can get especially confusing with wheels as there are four of them and even with one damaged wheel only the option to repair the good wheels shows up. You have to keep circling the vehicle until you get all the parts listed in red. As far as i know vehicles don't duplicate, if it respawns the original doesn't stay where it was. I think the vehicle "save" feature is bugged at the moment though as it doesn't seem to work very reliably

Ladies and Gentlemen, We found a car some days ago, that cool little s1203 Van but we damaged it and now can't repair it. We have put wheels on every wheel point and then some but when we sit in it, the wheel icon is yellow and the thing is undrivable so we've ditched it (We also had a bus that some prick decided to just blow up in the middle of berezino and then disconnect. We weren't even near it at the time and he was the only other player on the server and just happened to be where we were...) - are the vehicles bugged for fixing them? For a couple of days now our small group has been trying to find some vehicles and we have been scouring the map looking for them. We are using an online map that shows locations though I think now this is slightly out of date. Either way we basically are just going to the area around where they are marked and looking for them but so far have found nothing and we've covered quite a lot of ground. - Do vehicles respawn on a server restart even if someone has already taken and saved that vehicle someplace else? (so affectively it makes another one of those vehicles) - Do all vehicles spawn on the map or is there just a chance of them spawning? I've read of people hording vehicles so I understand they may have already been taken which sucks but little we can do about that. Any other tips for finding vehicles or fixing them would be appreciated.

I figure I will step in here as the representative of <SLF> and say. Bring it on bandit scum. The Survivors Liberation Force is in Charnerus to root out bandits and judge them for their crimes. Innocent survivors will of course be let be, and even helped, but a single witnessed bandit act, or an obvious bandit status. Will earn the perpetrator a swift death. ((Off the record, fuck you MOTOCROSS, none of us died in three hours, We have more vehicles than you, including the Helo. Your a punk bitch. I know because if you weren't you would have been on the server last night when we were waiting for a challenge. You want a place, how about place and time. Cherno, 8pm Eastern. I will make you a deal, if you can stay in Cherno on our server from 9pm till 11pm without dying, Ill let you have the chopper.)) *Ehem* Consider yourselves challenged, and I look forward to the upcoming competition. (Should be fun)

If you develop a game that would run in the future on a PSP, for instance, it has to be created around that hardware. The better versions of it, has nicer graphics, but that's about it in general, the gameplay is hindered by that decision. Tod Howard said before Skyrim release that he's happy with the hardware that is available today and a better one, will only give the advantage of rendering richer graphics, 7 feet away, where the player doesn't see it that well anyway. The same Tod Howard that said when Oblivion came out, that "with every new game in -The Elder Scrolls- series, we set to reinvent what TES means, it is essential. This was not possible on current gen hardware". It's the same now and it will always be the same until we reach the Star Trek's Holodeck simulation level. When Oblivion came out, it has worse graphics that on those presentation videos simply because the console couldn't handle the engine. Of course, it would have been a burden for the PC's of those time, but over the course of next gen video cards and CPU, that would mean nothing - as it has been proved. Still, advanced shawdows were out for both platform. Deus Ex is one of those "must play" games, a stone mark in gaming. It came out in 2000 I think, being the Crysis of it's time in HW demands, with beautiful visual, a creative gameplay that gave the player the possibility to finish a mission in different ways, a good story, believable characters and a truly awesome feeling of it all. Deus Ex 2 came out, completely consolized and dumbed down. Far Cry 2 promised to be a good game judging by the dev's movies, with a state of the art graphics engine, smart AI, a "smart" story and more than one way to tackle a situation . What came out was a highly repetitive game, with dumb AI, stupid storyline/storytelling, empty world and shot-them-all gameplay mechanics. Crysis 2 it was going to be better than the first two "thanks to consoles" - devs words. It end it up a corridor shooter, with less of the suit's abilities and an idiotic customization for the weapons/suit. Mafia, another land mark, was continued with Mafia 2, a game that was released before it was properly finished, with dumb DLC content and a poor and short storyline. Mass Effect 3, same story. The list could go on for quite a while. On one hand, there is the console's old hardware which hinders new gameplay mechanics and graphics and on the other hand, there is the fact that gaming is an "industry". The emphasis on broader audience and the lack of a really mature and strong gaming press, lead to the today's gaming state. Imagine Day Z trying to reach on that trend, to cater for that sort of potential clients: balanced sniper rifles, balanced vehicles and items spawns, balance everything to the point the game may not be the same. To be honest, as far as I'm concerned, it could go both ways, I wouldn't care that much, because the gameplay it's still in it's development state. It could turn out to be something great or just something okish from time to time. Survival is easy, but we all know that it is need it a lot more than that to maintain a "sex-appeal".

The problem isn't just that guns are easy to find, its that the guns are persistent across all servers. Certain items are never dropped but just get passed on to someone else because of the items high value. So because of the persistence they become the only items you find in tents, vehicles and on players after a certain amount of time. It is possible that after a month or two of playing without resets all tents on all servers will hold thermals because of the amount of people that keep that gun over other guns.

Yes Rodic, thats also my question: is there any chance to save vehicles for a longer time? Or are they just toys for 24 hours and then they respawn?

Do vehicles save?

Hi I've been globally banned and I wanna share my experience the community. I've read like the whole thread and I know that the game has changed since 15th August. I've been playing about a month and the hacking has kinda ruined the game from the start, and stopped me telling my buddies to play as I don't think they could handle it. I don't really mind guys giving themself a nice gun or two if they think it helps them. I DO mind being sent to debug land, turned into a cow, killed by 3 guys in ghillies & a heli who i killed 5 minutes ago, invisible/unkillable dudes, etc. I was playing on the 14th and hacking seemed at an all time high. I musta bin hacked more then 10time in 3 hours - sudden freefall with no parachute, giant bombs that are not in the game(are nukes part of DayZ?), killed without being hit by something, to name a few. I kept on playing (what choice), tried a few different servers but it was the same all over. Then I met a 'friendly' hacker, who didn't ask but gave me a full kit-out and was spawning ammo and vehicles all over, healing me and teleporting me & him around the map. I log on the next day and I am globally banned. Can't help feeling robbed since I did not cheat. I didn't want to cheat. I didn't suicide when he gave me all the stuff, but it seems fucking rough to lose my game for that. I emailed BE on the 15th but guess what, no response. I pretty much expect to never play this game again, and I won't be buying it after this shit nor will my friends. BE never stopped the hackers fucking up my whole evenings play, so yeah, I'm pretty mad, brah. I understand hacker-hate only too well but I just wanted some of these fools to know this shit can happen. If BE made cars, we'd all be dead in ditches.

Yeah, as has been said already hiding vehicles dosnt seem worth the effort most of the time, cause they always get found, best you can do is hold onto one for a few days and have a bit of fun, but the map dosnt seem big enough to hide them for any length of time, if there are enough people determined to find a ride, then your probably gonna loose it.

Just give it all time, Rome wasn't built in a day, and DayZ wont be perfect in one either....yes at the moment the lack of tents and vehicles are a major pain in the rear but it does make PvP a little more frequent and interesting..... I do have my moment of pure rage at this game, but then i remember i payed absolutely nothing for it, it's still an Alpha phase program and i don't think Rocket and the Dev team are on the same budget as say EA or Blizzard..... Hats off to Rocket and the Dev team at the moment, can't be easy trying to please everyone at the same time whilst dealing with both major and minor problems in the current build. I for one am happy to wait it out and keep playing.

Think some guys have been hoarding the vehicles or strangely your server hasn't got any yet.