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My experience is that even on vet servers, vehicles are red (even when unmanned), players are green and players with ghillie on don't have a blob. It's horrible, please get rid of it: https://dev-heaven.net/issues/40929

Hey guys, Got an email from ViLayer saying that updating my servers to 1.7.2.5 + Aram 96061 will help prevent a lot of the things hackers can do like creating items and vehicles. I'm just wondering if I can apply the new Arma2 patch and keep my server at .2.4 as I don't care to play this game if I can't save items, vehicles etc. Will this still provide the updated security if my DayZ is an old version but my Arma2 is up to date?

HAHA asharak ,t his must be the dummest most retarded report iv'e ever seen , someone killed u and u automatically blame the admin for that just cuz he's been online, wow , how pathethic. When ur items disappear from tents , and when your vehicles vanish , will u blame the admin again=? let me give u an advice if ur so unhappy and if u lack some basic logic , put out 50 euros and buy urself a server huh?

Me and my friend played some days on this server and we built a camp with 2 tents and 2 vehicles we saved them as it should. But the next day we log in all the content of the tents and the vehicles itself disappeared. Is this caused by server restarts? Is there any chance we can get our stuff back?

Found and repaired the helicopter, server resets the day after. Heli and two trucks gone. Found and repaired helicopter again yesterday, today our entire base is gone, all four vehicles gone, including the tents. This time even the tents are gone. Just want to warn people so they dont waste their time.

US 836 is having server shutdowns whenever their vehicles are lost? WTF is up with this game? Hacking, cheating, abuse... it's all at a level beyond comprehension at this point. DayZ developers... get your act together.

Today August 21, 2012 a group of friends (made up of 7) and myself was having a great time in OUR server. Our age range from 47 to 80 years of age. We was running through a wooded area going to Pusta and made a stop at a pond to fill our canteens, we was approached by a player riding a ATV. This player (HACKER with NO SKILLS) drove his atv under the pond, i kid you not my friends and ZOMBIES was walking on the water like jesus and shot 1 of my friends who was a distance of 40 meters away first from under water. He then shot and killed another friend, and then another. He said he had all kinds of vehicles and wanted us to drive them for him. I said NO we dont like hackers. He then shot another friend and then myself, i got very angry at this LOSER for his none skill play. You have to resort to cheating to make a score? I love the mod and think it was an awsome idea to combine military fighting with zombies. Anyhow i pay good money for this server and i now have decided NOT to renew it. This battleye thing sucks its not doing it job to detect things such as this. I have now shut the server down for the remaing time thats left in the subcription. This truly, i mean this hacker as truly ruined this game and mod for me and my friends. Any way of making these server more secured ?

I realize that you're busy trying to fix and tweak things that are currently having an effect on users, however, something else is going on - your customer's experience is being tainted by hackers. As an example... Last night, two of my clan members were at our vehicles. Suddenly, a gentleman appeared, and killed one. Our VS3 and URAL were taken. Seems like it's pretty normal, huh? After he was killed, his body was starting to get dragged by an invisible entity. When he got onto the ATV after logging on, and reconnecting later, he was being "chased" by another invisible player, whom seemed to be running at a speed equal to that of an ATV. He could hear the footsteps running along the ATV as he was going at ~45 km/h. He said after he had gotten off, he was shot. 20 minutes later, they were at a camp that was by one of the lakes. They had the same experience. Another experience was a few days ago. I had parked a URAL for a brief five minutes to investigate something, when all of a sudden, I heard the door open/close, and it disappeared before my eyes. I never found it in that location again, even after saving it. ANOTHER experience was about 1.5 weeks ago. I was laying down UNDERNEATH OF A GROUP OF PINE TREES, clearly hidden. An hour went by, and I heard footsteps approaching from behind, suddenly. A gentleman appeared next to me, looked at his map, then looked down at me and blasted me with his .50 cal. I was wearing a ghillie suit, and it blended in quite well. This issue seems to be the least addressed. I think more measures need to be taken against these hackers, and soon. Cheers.

I wanted to play something like "Civilization" where players live amongst one n' other choosing their house. Also having caps, store owners, ect, ect. Buying, trading, vehicles, and with the ability to have 50+ players at a time would make it all the more better. Civilization, but with zombies... Or even just play it in Arma II itself on the same map would be fun too. It'd need more elaborating on, and rules, ect, ect. Your idea sounds like fun too though! I would have never thought to do that. :D Edit: You'd definitely need bandits in my idea too, or cops would be useless...

It doesn't save to hive when it comes to tents and vehicles. Or I would really love to keep my .338 Magnum sniper safe... You got to love hackers that suck.

The road that runs North to South into cherno. So many vehicles spawn in cherno, and there are many places to set up a decent kill zone.

I've been seeing a lot of forum posts about fixing the alpha. Mostly people saying "I quit", "This game sucks/is terrible because of bug xyz, Fix xyz or I quit/boycott", or similar negative comments. I know it can be hard not being able to play the game how you want, but here is my take on why the bugs are actually a GOOD thing. 1.-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- First of all, I'm glad the Developers have their priority of adding game features first. I do not want dogs, infection, temperature, and all the other goodies planned to STOP every time a tent breaks or a vehicle spawns wrong. If theses bugs are easy to Fix, do you think rocket would not fix them immediately? Yes, dayz is a game you like, but it is even more than a game to Rocket. He has put a lot of sweat and blood into it. If it were the best path to pour his effort into it I have faith he would have done it. That doesn't mean it won't get fixed, but that they are probably working on it BUT also mostly working on DayZ standalone. Likely this is the correct choice. 2.-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Devs have already said some of the biggest bugs, such as duping, inventory errors, hacking, and broken characters are not fixable in ARMA II. Therefore, the faster the game goes standalone the sooner we have a Better dayz. I'd rather not play as much now and get a much sooner stand alone than have a perfectly patched alpha. Again, I think if a perfect alpha were easy Rocket would do it for us.. as it is it sounds like it would take a terrible amount of effort and I respect him pushing to make DAYZ better even if it hurts for now. 3.-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- That said, I think with current duping and inventory bugs, having no tents/vehicle saves actually helps the game have less cheating. Vehicle and tents not saving stops the dupers. It doesn't stop the hackers, but DayZ standalone is the only thing that will really help with hacking. Therefor focusing on developing dayZ and leaving alpha bugs behind sounds like a really good choice to me. The sooner the better. IN SHORT:: I can't wait for standalone and I really don't care if dayZ alpha is buggy & I think you should feel the same way. I applaud the developers for fixing what they can but understanding that if they get stuck on these huge alpha bugs then we'll never have the dayZ we want. I have faith that the developers are not stupid and care about the game more than any of us do.. and that consequently they're doing the best they can. please stop posing urgent threads and threats over and over for the same bugs.. play the alpha and enjoy waiting for the next big build to come out :) Right now tents and vehicles don't work so just don't use them. It's not a game ender, Nor is fixing them going to fix DayZ alpha.

If you want a complete server restart then you have to contact the devs and provide a valid reason why you want one and if they feel sorry enough for your excuse then they will provide you one. I also rent a server from vilayer and while using 1.7.2.5 I had the problem with tents and vehicles not appearing after a restart so I had to do another restart to make them appear again. Their lil hotfix they wanted for the weekend did nothing but break more things and fix nothing. So if you are running 1.7.2.5, just revert back to 1.7.2.4 and everything will be great. Minus the occasional artifacting. Other than that all vehicles and tents are saving correctly for me and every restart nothing disappears anymore. Also when I reverted back to 1.7.2.4 all my vehicles reset back to their original spawn point. Our helichopper even reset back to the island that we recently crashed. The only thing that didn't reset was one white pickup truck.

yeah hangers are counted as outdoors due to vehicles being able to spawn in there some times..try taking a military zombie into the plane tower and they will slow down to walk still

Dear OP, Don't worry, this game is full of laughs and giggles, so just enjoy them when you can. This forum however, is full of people who like to call you silly names and try to hurt your feelings. For whatever reasons, I can only guess, but I would think it is because they can do it and hide behind the anonymity of the internet. If they tried it at the local shops, they would soon have no teeth. Personally, I like to aim for the legs, and then watch them bleed out through my binoculars. I tried having a positive humanity, but discovered pretty quickly that zombies respawn faster than the ammo does, people keep finding the vehicles I try to hide, and the server admins hog all the choppers. The Lee Enfield is a fantastic leg-breaker, and they spawn all over the place, as do binoculars. Yours sincerely, Bandit BIO

So here's the story. Friday night I decided to play some DayZ. I had been playing a few hours when I came across this SUV. Of course it needed some TLC (Engine, wheels, fuel, etc.) So I decided to take on the project seeing how it wasn't far from Cherno. After 2 hours of scavenging parts I finally had my very own vehicle. After completing it, there was noone else on the server (Damn...4AM EST came quick) So I decided to head up to the airbase and look for some higher end weapons. Needless to say after driving around hitting the hotspots I had a pretty nice collection of weapons and ammo. So I decided I would take it up far North into the wilderness and hide my stash. So my SUV is "hidden" and I log out beside it so that I can wake up in the morning and hop right in and take off. So I wake up in the morning, eat some breakfast, then login to DayZ. I log in and I look around and my newly built machine is nowhere to be seen. It had only been 4 hours and someone had already found my fucking vehicle. By this time my piss is boiling, I was already pissed that my girlfriend woke me up at 8 AM, but now my god damn vehicle is missing. Flash forward to tonight, I decided to look for a new vehicle so I have the map up on my second monitor running between vehicle spawn points when I see, in the woods...you guessed it, MY SUV! I'm not gonna lie I got kinda happy. I went running towards it when it started to drive away! It caught me off guard and my heart stopped a moment. It was in a valley and it started driving up the side of the hill so I decided to follow it (I pretty much ran same speed as it drove up the hill) The bastard that had stolen it led me straight to his camp. He had 3 vehicles total and a load of tents. I sat there with my DMR watching him, seeing if he had any allies around. I sat there watching him go between vehicles/tents unloading his supplies. He's standing at the back of my truck when I decided I've seen enough and I shot him in the back of the head, instant death. I sat there a few minutes waiting to see if there was any movement, my heart was racing. After awhile I ran up to the camp and started to raid it. I checked my SUV, it still had pretty much the same items that I had in it so I knew for sure it was mine. I went around to all the tents, took out all the good stuff and loaded up one of his V3S Civilian's. I then ran over seven tents full of ammo/guns/food/etc and left a couple empty tents standing. (Sorry, I didn't think to record any of that) Here is where the video picks up. I go around to show you what is in each vehicle, I wish I had recorded what was in the tents before I ran them over. Sorry for the wall of text but I figured it was a pretty funny story. tl;dr: Watch the video, you'll get the jest of it.

My only problem with vehicles is that people who own a helicopter or those who play on low settings find your own vehicles too easily. On lowest settings you can just x-ray through trees to find all the tents and hidden vehicles with ease. And thats fucking annoying. A few days ago I hid my ATV in a place where no-one could ever look for. It wasnt visible to any direction in all the grass and trees. Still some helicopter group had stolen all the jerry cans from it the next day. What comes to clans, they are usually pretty stupid and hide their vehicles up in the north or just somewhere at the map border in the most obvious places.

Inventory management should not let you lose items, no matter how wrong you do it... I suppose the engine has its limits, i understand it, just pissed me off. The shotgun-shells being gun-specifig is just unforgivable to me, i can however forget shotguns for now. SNEAKING past zombies should be doable, but it aint. I have to CRAWL, not "sneak" and while its very effective, its also very, very slow and thus very boring. I've tested quite some and it seems to be impossible to sneak up on a zombie AND couple that up with the fact that axe/crowbar have like 5% chance of hitting their target its impossible to "stealth-kill" zombies in your way. I considor myself very good at "sneaking around" but i have never ever had all three items, knife, axe and matches in my inventory at the same time. Even looting "high-value" places seems often quite bad loot-wise. It isnt very "rewarding" to crawl 30min past bazillion zombies only to find truckload of shotgun-shells your shotgun cant even use and some empty cans... Cmon, Mcgyver could make a friggin nuke out of those alone! Navigating i can handle, trust me, i've been in the army and if you dont learn it there, your probobly still are in the woods trying get home ;) While i get the fact that vehicles are kind of a luxory and all, but the distances are a pain. And why are there TONS of vehicle-wrecks and nothing in em!? One problem is the "loot-spots" feel a bit generic and there aint that many, forcing me to search sertain spots over and over again... While crawling around, very, very slowly. I "want to like" this mod, i love all things zombie-related and this survival-stuff but i cant find many parts i can truely enjoy.

Does this work for players aswell? I've only seen it on z's animals and vehicles.

Yes, purely to support his server and/or ideas he has with it. That's what I understood, too. ;) But the problems regarding vehicles/tents are the dev's problems, so I don't understand how he wants to fix them himself (or will he go private with his server(s)?) As long as that stands in the way between beeing able to play dayz for let's say 50% instead of 100%, I am not really willing to dish out more money for that game/mod. That said, I'm looking forward to hearing Remco'S ideas/plans soon.

M107 Pros: +Functioning mildots +Smaller profile +Zoom's in further. +Can zoom with right mousebutton (faster in critical situations). M107 Cons: -Heavy recoil. AS50 Pros: +Stonger against vehicles +Lower recoil +takes both kinds of ammo. AS50 Cons: -Incorrect mildots -Large profile Personally, as long as it's against infantry I prefer the M107.

You are totally right. Like i said at the opening post - vehicles and tents are things that keep me and my friends playing. Without the possibility to store items or to drive around/fixing cars etc there is nothing to do for us in Chernarus. Is there any Thread or something where bugs are reported? We should show the Dev Team that this is a huge problem and that there is almost everyone involved...

i think that it would be better for there to be more vehicles available, but just a lot less vehicle part spawns, as realisticly there would be a lot more than around 20 vehicles in a 225km2 map but finding vehicles parts would be very hard. i just think there should be more vehicles as things like car chases would occur and that would be awesome :)

Having vehicles is like putting a target on yourself. Same with pitching tents. I found when I stopped pitching tents and using vehicles the consistency with getting killed with hackers dropped dramatically. I kind of caught on after 3 nights in a row of pitching a tent and then proceeding to get killed by a teleporting godmode hacker that they don't like them. Alot of hackers don't like hoarders and tbh, neither do I.

Hey guys , i think starting this thread was important. i fucking love dayz , this game is just intense , i can't remember a game where you had such adrenaline rushes because you can loose it all in just one mistake. i only seen that in 2 others games : diablo 2 hardcore mode , and ultima online. those games are rare. and i just love the feeling they give. i started to play dayz for more than a month now , explored almost every aspects of the game , had a clan, build camps , tried to find all ingame different gear and cars .saw every guns in the game , no hacks everything legit. (i admit i was no life to see all this in a month) i had a lot of fun. after that i wanted to explore more the game and directly enjoy the pvp aspect of the game so i started to go to some airfields and try to find some people to kill. all the time i would die after 5 minutes , because of a guy in my back with an AK . happened all the time at night , and i understood the only way to locate me was hacking as i took uncommon sniping spots to avoid sniper hopers. i knew the game was full of hackers but untill i started pvp i had no matter at all. everytime i would logon wearing a ghillie suit at a sniping spot on any server would let me live only 5 to 10minutes what ever i do , even if stealthy , even if ucommon sniping spot , even if pitch dark night.even if empty server. a guy would login then go in my back and kill me. that happened 10 times in 10 days of trying. i started to read on the forums and saw so many fanboys post telling that hacking is common but that the game is still playable. so i decided to do my own little study. i would study players behavior and servers health !! not like rocket would do with a stupid database that only logs actions. at that time i wanted to monitor ingame encounters and how they happens , what dynamics results of this and how hacking is impacting the "whole" game at a point even rocket can't imagine because he is not monitoring this at all. i also wanted to monitor the real rate of hacking because we have no numbers and if pretty much difficult to tell how many servers is legit or how many games about 10 that you play will not meet hackers. i wanted to answers those question so i started to monitor it. so here is basically what i did i ... hacked... yeah guys i hacked but in a whitehat way , im not gonna explain here what is a whitehat , but lets says i used hacking in a good way to understand how hacking was afecting the game.I did all this whitout killing players or taking any advantage of the game. i just monitored how players where acting. i didnt loot camps , didnt ruined camps , didnt took vehicles or stuff , nor killed players. after few days of coding my software was ready to work and i could locate every players , every tents , every camps , every vehicles , every survivors , every bandits , every snipers on the map. the purpose of this study was not pure cheating so i just added those basics features without aimbots or stupid grieffing tools. i just wanted to see what really happens instead of speculating like fanboys do. so here is what i saw today as my first whitehack hacking days : i just log on the server and see that there is almost no vehicles on the map , and i understand hackers probably destroyed them all previously.(i would say 6 servers on 10 are affected from what i seen today after trying 100 different servers ) i see 3 guys on my locator and one is in the middle of the nw airfield looting stuff in the barracks. i can see another one that is located south of the airfield at a very common sniping spot that is aiming players who are trying to travel to airfield from roads and usually coming from south or aiming at the player going out of the airfield going back to south. seems legit. but .... that guy direction is pointing to the barrack airfield direction and i start to understand the guy probably use a locator too and is waiting for the other guy. sadly the other guy logs out (server hopper) snipers changes instantly direction to my direction then i saw him for like an hour trying to ambush me from 2kilometers aways , again and again. all the time i would take a road he would be waiting at the end of that road. could have kill him but it was not the purpose as im whitehat hacking for this study. for a first login it was interesting. what are the odds of being victim of a semi hacker using only locator smartly ? how could you know that you where victim of hacking in that case ? absolutely no way to tell except if you where also hacking to understand and see it. ok so this was an exemple for my first log in of the day.i tried 100 different servers and i can confirm you guys that healthy servers not victims of hack are super duper rare. so many servers are : empty of vehicles / hacked and all vechicles stashed in middle of a city or south coast (those server get super laggy and i also understood that low fps servers are the servers victim of this) the other problem i noticed and very severe problem is that one server about 2 . wich is very very small odds (same as a coinflip) every time you join a server you have 50% chance of beeing victim of a smart hacker only using wallhack or a locator. i noticed that everytime i would log on a 10 player server instantly one of the player in the zone arround me would try to get me from miles and miles away. i also noticed that every 4 servers about 10 i would log in wearing a ghillie suit near a sniping hot spot i would get killed in the next 15 minutes by a teleport hacker. I know those numbers are still too small to make statistics and its impossible to really check the level of hacking but from what i seen today i would say not wearing a ghillie suit would less attract frustrated hackers. remember that when they see where you are using a hack when you wears a ghillie suit they will see your name followed by "sniper" (like the map normally would on a recruit server) im sorry for all this text but i think this was important for some people to realize at what point hacking is really destroying the game actually .there is actually so many hackers that every time you play a game you have same chance as a coinflip to die because of hacking. here is a recap on about a hundered games on different servers , different location and countries. about 100 games played : -1games about 2 i got instantly followed by guy in my area.(smart maphack) - 6 servers about 10 have no vehicles at all , all vehicles detroyed or none spawned , (empty map cleaned by hackers) only few ones where i can see usual old stashing but they almost not exist at all actually. -100% of the servers affected by the hacking stashing near south coast result in massive fps drop for the whole server. -if i decided to repair a vechicle on a server it will be destroyed the next day to a hacker 1 times about 2 , if i choose a server where i can see the whole map vechiles are healthy it works. i would say it work 2 servers about 10. -if you spawns near an airfield wearing a ghillie suit on any server your life time expectation is 5 to 10minutes to a hacker teleporting in you back. the whole game pretty much corrupted and all the servers seemed fucked up from what i seen whith whole vehicles health status and spawning. my 2 cents but i had to tell this im tired of reading bullshit that this game is still playable. have a nice day. hope you read this rocket.