THEGordonFreeman

I like that qualifier "gameplay cannot be affected is a player is not on the server." So if you are in PvP, and a restart happens, and those you were PvPing have Priority Access and push ahead of you in the queue to get a better location on you or away from you while you sit in queue DEFINTELY gives those with P.A. A HUGE ADVANTAGE. It happens, it's happened to me and it happens to others regularly on some of the biggest servers out there. By getting that advantage, I would argue, P.A. has the real consequence of changing gameplay as it delivers an advantage to those that have it over those that don't if they are in a PvP fight. I'd gladly like to hear an argument that P.A. does not provide an advantage as it is currently implemented. How does the other player, with no P.A., overcome tactically being killed from behind when they EVENTUALLY get back in, as the enemy has had the opportunity (because they paid for it) to get behind them and kill them while they are logging in? Priority Access disenfranchises players that don't have it.

If Bohemia enforced it's monetization rules appropriately, I doubt there would be more than several hundred or so of community servers available. Many servers SELL priority Queue, which DOES affect gameplay, and DOES disenfranchise players waiting in the queue. If you've ever sat in a server and wonder why your queue number goes backwards, it's because you were moved back so a priority queue member could get in front of you. Whether they paid for it or not... who knows unless they explicitly state it.

Any server that offers players ANY type of advantage is trash. And yes, I would say if they pay to be put in the front of the line in the queue, that is also an advantage. People should donate to the server if they like it and want to see it continued to be updated, that is it, period. Any server that offers any of that crap is giving certain players an advantage... those servers should be avoided like the zombie plague. Many will disagree with me on the queue thing, but everyone should have the same shot, whether they donate to a server or not. Some will say, why donate, if you can't play? Then make the server private only donator's play on that server, now THAT is fine, but if it's open to the puiblic and only certain people get priority, that is crap because that means another player or players got bumped so you could play, we call that cutting in line, and whether you payed the bouncer checking people into the club or not, it's very dickish, reagrdless if some think it's acceptable because Bohemia allows it.

That video deserves awards as it is something I have been asking for a looong time as well. What exactly is Battleye good for? As prevalent as hackers are on official, one would think BI could get a handle on it. But then one also thinks about dwindling sales and how banning hackers also means more copies are sold as the ban waves hit. The problem with this game has always been ESP. If ESP could be negated for those other than server admins, 90% of hacking/scripting would go away.

Off topic, but this is also a major problem on official....

Have you played this game? I'm actually not salty at all. I have over 10,000 hours in this game and I run two servers and a gaming community founded around playing DayZ. I want the game to get better, but I also want the developer to fix the BIG ISSUES. And furthermore, I want prospective new players to know what they are getting into before purchasing the game. I said I guarantee it because I have witnessed it personally. I don't talk shit or BS. If you don't like what is said here feel free to put me on ignore.

There's NOTHING real about the physics in this game including the bullets. What in in the world are you talking about. I guarantee someone could shoot some else in the head with an FNX45 pistol at 5 meters and they would be graveyard dead, yet in DayZ, it's survivable. "If the physics were real in this game, the vehicle would be staying in that ditch." And my point is the physics are not real and are not really designed to be. But vehicle physics are even worse because of a bad decision by the development team... PERIOD. Even if you couldn't get that Olga out of the ditch, I doubt very highly you would pass out as many times as that guy did while sitting still because someone through a door onto it. I suppose that happens in real life as well.

You missed the point entirely about this video. Look what the players are doing to get the car out of a ditch that even a little girl's battery operated barbie jeep could get out of. What they are doing is dumb as hell, and shows just how silly car physics are. This has zero to do with server performance. The implementation of the car physics is just crap. Not to mention the fact the player gets knocked out when the car barely moves. It's so dumb. There's nothing miraculous about getting out of a ditch for a sedan like the Olga. If the banks were steeper... maybe, but this is a great example of why DayZ's car physics are crap other than just the flying into the stratosphere.

So these guys were just trying to follow WOBO's advice on getting a car unstuck. Look at how ridiculous this is. Does this really seem like an enjoyable player experience with vehicles? Taking the doors, trunk and hood off, throwing them on the vehicle to get it unstuck? What's so sad is that instead of building the car physic's correctly from the beginning, THIS IS WHAT PLAYER'S RESORT TO try and keep the game fluid for them. It's a very sad commentary on the current state of vehicles. Does it make any sense that a guy sitting in the vehicle gets knocked out several times basically sitting still?

Maybe there is some method to this madness that we all have never thought of.... maybe, the devs just love to enact Karma onto the players. Take this guy.... seems he just wants to run over a player, and of course, the INEVITABLE happens....

Can't EVEN DRIVE SLOW and not get screwed

And you have toxic zones, but no vehicles stable enough to carry away all that sweet toxic loot...

Driving PERIOD, on a clean server on an I7 processor with no mods and only 1 player, Gigabit connection to Internet, you will have vehicle issues, that is a fact. Lag is only part of the problem.

Well as being both a player and server owner, it is true.

And on console after 1.14 dropped Takeaway? BI still hasn't done anything to fix the biggest issue facing DayZ. Do you think if they ignore it enough, it will just go away? If you are thinking about buying DayZ, please understand cars have been broken for many, MANY years now. And BI has done little, if anything, to fix them. The videos posted all in this thread shows you the CURRENT state of vehicles and the state has been current three years and going. But hey, you can carry animal carcasses now....

MEANWHILE.... on console before 1.14 dropped.....

If you want a survival challenge, play a properly run Namalsk server.

Meanwhile on console..... Truly, the developers have blessed us with such amazing vehicle physics. I am so looking forward to carrying animal carcasses... I hope the physics work just as well as these amazing vehicles.

And THERE YOU HAVE IT. So anyone that comes on the forum to vomit that a handful of community servers have cars working perfectly IGNORE the fact that those servers have to pay big money for OVERKILL servers to make this game work for their communities. I run a Dayz server on a dedicated 6700K 32GB SSD Drive Windows 2013 server. This is way more than what is recommended by BI.It is the only thing on the server and when pop hits 15, cars start to become unusable. Even on low pop, less than 8, you can still have hiccups. The server FPS will be in the thousands and STILL you will have wobbles and drops while driving. Server is tied to a Google Fiber backend in Kansas City, my average ping is under 30 from my home machine with an average 100MB/s cable modem on a 5800X AMD proc with 32GB memory. So in short, the issue is not the equipment... it IS THE BAD DEVELOPMENT DECISION that has gotten us in this mess. Just because someone has a bunch of cash to burn to "fix" the problem, is not really fixing anything. They are simply saying "I GOT MINE" and everyone else can deal with it. Not much different from the way it is currently being handled by BI. They know there is a problem, they have tried to fix it, so they say, but we just have to deal with it while we pick up our animal carcasses. Just ignore the flying cars, eat your Bear Steak and love it.

Were you playing on an official server, Parazight?

Meanwhile, the vast majority of communities AND Official and XBOX and Playstation servers all suffer from a terrible decision made by developers. Again, their are a few communities who had to OVERBUILD servers beyond spec to accomodate for bad development decisions. Good that they can afford it, too bad the majority of players will never be a part of it. I would think people that actually care about this game would want the problem resolved instead of being a forum twerp saying "I GOT MINE!" and not working to alert everyone of the REAL situation at hand.

Meanwhile again on PC.....

Seems they forgot to mention they fixed the vehicles after nearly 3 years.... wait... what?.... they didn't forget? Oh, yeah, picking up animal carcasses is much more important than having stable working vehicles. Good Job BI. You do such a great job listening to your player base. Everyone has been pandering for picking those carcasses up... adds so much more realism to the game. BI DEVELOPER: "HEY GUYS!" OTHER DEVS: "HEYA. GOOD MORNING!" BI DEVELOPER: "NEW IDEA! LET'S LET PLAYERS PICK UP ANIMAL CARCASSES!" OTHER DEVS: "YEAH, THAT IS SO BAD ASS!" BI DEVELOPER: "I MEAN, YOU KNOW OUR VEHICLES ARE WORKING PERFECTLY. THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO PUT SOMETHING INSIDE THE TRUNK, RIGHT?!?" OTHER DEVS: "YES, TELL THE EXECS TO GIVE THIS DUDE A HUUUUUGE RAISE AND BRING THE HOOKERS AND BLOW IN! PARTY TIME!!" Meanwhile.... on PC....

Not to mention that they haven't fixed vehicles in over three years.... you're right, it's very sad.

Glad you pointed that out Parazight since I put the trolling moron on ignore. Best thing is to never feed the trolls. They are like Gremlins, feeding then ANYTIME causes them to multiply.