THEGordonFreeman

And here is one of the truest statements ever uttered on REDDIT about DayZ.... EVER... "A game where you spend hours - days - weeks - months building up a single character and can lose it all to one dumb glitch is a game where the Devs need to spend more time identifying and eliminating glitches. Simple as that." Amen and AMEN

If you play on populated vanilla servers, it can take hours to find all the necessary components to get a vehicle working. Cars are most definitely a death sentence in the Vanilla game on populated servers. I have not played on a single populated Vanilla server that had working vehicles consistent... not one. I don't have exact stats but I would say that at least 1/3 of my deaths in DayZ have been due to cars glitching. PC Players have technical advantages with Keyboard and mouse and are much faster at reactions in PvP vs Console. I don't play on low pop servers, what's the point, might as well just spin up your own and play. Yeah, cars work wonderful if no one is playing on the server creating bases and such... again, what's the point?

Another day.... another very lucky DayZ player. I never get this lucky driving.

Do NOT touch vehicles, unless you like death.

Console players still have to spend hours getting geared and putting together a vehicle, more if they plan to build a base, and THEN have the vehicle go stupid on them, or get killed in PvP due to laggy servers. My son has DayZ on XBOX and his friend has it on PS5, and I can tell you XBOX is only marginally better than the Playstation. It's a damn good thing PC players aren't thrown in with Console players, we would eat them alive, but end the end all suffer from stupid bugs and piss poor systems within the game.

So basically you are saying playing DayZ on Console is like going to the Smithsonian Museum. Xbox and Playstation are preserving history so to speak. That's really sad. Most companies sweat about having their games perform the absolute best on multiple platforms. Not BI. They are mavericks... they now release games that are in no way shape or form capable of playing at decent frame rates continuously on ANY platform, and, of course, not to mention the bugs and broken major systems left in the game. They don't even bother patching those major systems two years after release. Anybody want to guess what Arma 4 or whatever the next game is going to be like? You think the Vehicles will work better in their next game? Not ONLY THAT! The problem with DayZ Vehicles is SOOOOO bad... real life is making memes of all of these DayZ, Please fix Cars Videos.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeXGlNXJeEM

How do Console Players suffer through this?

FACTS!

Hey kids, WHAT TIME IS IT??? It's astronaut time.....

That's why I never understood why Community Server admin's would pay $100 for a helicopter mod. YOU ALREADY HAVE FLYING CARS BAKED IN THE GAME! BONUS MEME!!!!

Are the vehicles any better on Console Community servers? The answer is... HELL NO!

That's pretty sad. You're right of course, but I am still calling them out so new or potential new players know what is up before they spend their money.

Until vehicles are fixed, I don't plan to give BI one more dime of my money. Not for any DLC, not for any new game. I have had it. DayZ was the first game I supported in Early Access, and while I have bought a few other EA titles... no more. I'm done. I sincerely love this game in spite of the development company involved. Through all of the dumb mistakes, Dean Hall, and all of that, I have fully supported the vision until they decided to go Beta then Full release within a month, the love affair I have with this game began falling apart. There's a lot to like about the game, but deciding to release to console was the worst decision they could have made. Sure it made BI more money, but what did we get in the end.... a lot more frustrated players, that's what. And a wholesale change to the game that nobody asked for or wanted (ahem... Player Controller). But the real travesty is making the game full release with the aweful vehicle physics. Sadly the game is not really playable for Console people, especially on a server with a few players or bases. But even us PC folk are willing to forgive some of the desync goofiness, but the state of vehicles is pure crap, it never should have been released. I don't play console, but there's no way in hell this is a fully released and patched game. It's the second saddest thing to see for the game...

I really wish BI would put as much time/energy/passion and attention to detail in the vehicles as they do in their trailers for these updates. But I guess I can wish in my left hand and poop in in my right. The poop in my right hand is tangible... it stinks, but it is tangible.

So I wonder what exactly it will take to make this a priority for BI? How many players have to suffer through no fault of their own?

While the mod was much more reliable vehicle-wise, you could still get airborne on the rare occasion. here's comparison of vehicles from 2012 to 2021, and if you close your eyes, it feels like nothing has changed!

The slow motion crash... a new way to lose all your progression and gear through no fault of your own. Fortunately, this guys rode it out and survived. Not the normal experience with vehicles at all. BONUS CLIP! Here's a car actually flying at the airfield.... natural habitat for all DayZ vehicles...

I'm sure this is EXACTLY how BI intends for us to play the game. Conform to how THEY want you to play.... kinda defeats the whole reason of being an Open World title. ANY vehicle can turn into a space shuttle in seconds... proof....

Check documentation for Battleye and CFTools, you need to open ports on your server.

So this just about sums up my experience with vehicles and why I don't use them. This is the default way to die in a vehicle....

Right on. It's a possible workaround. It's a damn shame players have to figure out ways around problems left by developers. BI is notoriously famous for this since Arma 2. And DayZ likely won't be the last game they leave Mac Truck sized bugs in as game features. I mean, this would be embarrassing for most companies but this has become BI's calling card at this point. What makes it different is that, vehicles are a major feature to the game and while I'm sure the current team would love to have it fixed, it's not a priority, and THAT is what has so many perplexed. It's a major feature of the game and it sits here broken FOR YEARS and even the developers don't know when or if it can be fixed. That's like a doctor ripping out a bone in your leg, and putting a replacement in saying it will be better than the original bone, but every 10 steps or so, your leg flies out from under you and you fall to the ground. Every couple of months the doctor takes an XRay and can't figure out how to fix it but keeps telling you he's working on it. Sure, you can live without the leg, but he said it would be better from the beginning, although your leg was perfectly fine from the start. It makes no sense and now it's basically ignored and they tell you well, at least you can make 9 steps.... in other words... working as intended, at this point, deal with it, you'll get used to it.

Desync between the client and the server is a large part of the problem. I was playing on a server last night and attempted to walk into a storage container where someone had trapped a zombie. I opened a door, backed out walked around and the server "THOUGHT" I was inside the container adn the zombie just beat the shit out of me, meanwhile I am cursing like hell outside the container getting my ass kicked by nothing. Cars are server authority and if the server hardware sucks or even a few people on or you bubble into a large base and your character has to receive all of the items in that base, you will lag or desync and you are screwed in some fashion. Sometimes if the vehicle is spawned in on top of other debris, it will auto jump when you get in it and start. My experience has always been very rarely to find a vehicle that is stable.

It's to the point that I feel like the community is being taken advantage of.... What I mean is that it was evident from the start that the community would put in a ton of resources to overcome many of the problems the game actually suffers from. Vehicle physics is one thing that I don't believe the community can fix without source code access, but they knew the community would be putting in effort to making the game fresh and new. Offering a new DLC would be a complete slap in the face. I mean, Livonia was the worst money grab I have ever seen, from Bohemia anyway. It's a fun map, but by no means a great one, it has always felt incomplete to me, kinda like Esseker is at the moment. But I am confident Esseker WILL GET FINISHED. And if I get that itch to run for 20 minutes through the forest to find one little place to loot, I would take Esseker over Livonia any day of the week. No DLC until cars are fixed! It's older, but still another perfect example of the state of cars today......

In Arma 3, vehicles were client authority, in DayZ, they made them server authority to keep hackers from messing with them. Basically, they took a sledgehammer to the problem and now here we are, vehicles that barely and rarely work. But hey! No hacking cars! They just use ESP and kill everyone on the server with a bullet to the brain.