Kirov (DayZ)

They definitely spawn sometimes in Msta, at the usual place with goats and chickens, although I believe they are less common than goats. I'm sure I've seen swine in other locations, but can't recall it right now. Will let you know if I ever run into one. They're sure rare, I've seen only a couple. FYI: they drop Boar steaks but also a Pig pelt which can't be used to craft a backpack.

Relax, both maps are just maps. Reading dayzdb is still reading a map, not listening to a virtual bot guiding you by hand through Chernarus with a soothing voice. And if you have an actual tourist map at home (scale 1:50 000 or similar), you can see for yourself that the in-game map is actually a piece of crap in terms of precision and legend. Otherwise, great advice, I need to check out the clouds myself, didn't know that.

All you really really need for a campfire is matches. Rags and books are virtually everywhere, so if you don't see them, the loot on that server is just broken. You don't need firewood anymore. Kindlings can be found on the ground in the woods or chopped with a stone knife which you can now craft without any tools. Stones for the campfire can also be found the same way - on stone roads, near lakes and the seashore. No chopping or mining is needed anymore. So really a matchbox is the only thing here which is not everywhere around you.

The dayzdb map is more clear to read, the in-game map could sometimes give me a pause. Also, I don't believe it is as precise as the online one, sometimes they differ as to the tree line and I'm quite sure it's the online one which is correct. Remember also that combining two halves of the ingame map decreases its resolution a lot - as long as you have halves and quarters, even invididual stand-alone trees are present, useful even though not really realistic (I don't bother anymore and just use a complete map). I recommend the online map for your first steps and of course for finding heli sites and cars. After some time make sure to use the ingame map and compass to navigate without roads. The woods are absolutely the safest areas in Chernarus. Also, the ingame map can save your life by avoiding alt+tabbing in zombie areas (my first death was to a zed like that).

I didn't mean a separate wiki, just a thorough research and expansion of entries we have now. However, I believe we'll have to wait until at least alpha as previous info gets obsolete very quickly. Once I used to ask myself a lot of questions like whether a splitting axe is more resilient to chopping than a firefighter axe (I didn't notice any difference) or if various trees need different numbers of chops (appletree goes down quicker but yields less firewood), now you can make a full-blown fireplace without either an axe or pickaxe. So I guess we have to wait and for now treat research results as temporary.

When the final version comes, we can think of a wiki with all the details of survival tested - average yields of plants, spawning areas of animals, how much meat per knife condition, this kind of stuff. Also, I think it would be funny to gather a few lone wolves one day for a big barbecue with all kinds of meat and veggies.Especially as hopefully new features will be added. As for overhaul of animal behaviour - it seems quite obvious that current animals serve really just as placeholders, even poorer than zeds. With a ranged weapon the effort is zero. Any kind of improvement is much welcome. And wolves and bears - are they coming our way in .53? Sweet. I can't help but wonder how a fistfight with a bear will look like. ;)

Another small tip I forgot (I updated the list above): - if you want to hide your fireplace, put it directly under a spruce (or whatever that evergreen tree is), like next to the trunk, where you almost can't see it. The fire and smoke will be much less visible while you can stilly normally interact with the cooking area as usual.

Today I won DayZ, as thanks to Tatanko's coordinates, I managed to shot dead two and ensnare one rabbit. Oh my god, are they dead. After a burst of M4 i'm surprised there was any meat left. But I was so anxious to lay my hands on such game! I spotted and killed 2 bunnies at 051 115. Try scouting the area with binoculars from a distance rather than moving in immediately, rabbits are fast, quiet and shorter than grass. Meanwile, a snare at 051 114 on another server also did the trick. Be ready to wait more than 5 minutes, however. As for culinary impressions: after tasting all kinds of meat in Chernarus, I can safely say that rabbits are just the most superb. Their exquisite taste makes up for their rarity and should please the palates of even most demanding survivors. One bite and you're happy that the humanity is gone so that there is more for you. B) Thus my survival quest is complete and I can wait for more features. I wish the same to all outdoorspeople to be and I hope we run into each other, without the obligatory "shoot first" policy. Tatanko, I have a good memory for favours. My main survival character is on public HC and if you ever need anything there, just give me a shout. I'll come and try to bring rabbit meat on me. If you want a small protector case (damaged), hit me up. :beans: :thumbsup:

Tatanko, my companera, please help me out here. I've spent hours trying to hunt down rabbits, set up tens of snares in various area, asked people on forums, googled it, to no avail. You must understand how I feel so please tell me exactly where you managed to catch the fucker. I mean the specific place, server if you recall and any other relevant information. You can't be too specific. :) Apart from the rabbit, the last quest on my dayz survival list, I got'em all. I relied on what I hunt or farm for many hours and I think I can share a few tips: - my opinion on the bow: throw it away when you find your first primary gun. I understand the woodsman approach, but I'm trying to survive here, not play Grampa the Gardener. I really tried to practice bow shooting and found that it is most probably random (unless maybe you pours tens of hours into it), i.e. all things equal, arrows go in various directions. The bow is just a ridiculous weapon now. You can kill game with it and you can shoot zeds when they aggro and run directly at you, that's it. After trying numerous times to sneak on a zed only to hit him in the elbow (funny to look as he runs to the side), I gave up. Go for the crossbow if you want to avoid firearms, it's accurate. Still, it's reload time is appalling. I tried both weapons and decided to stick to firearms. I hope they'll improve the bow in the future so we can truly master the art. - game is not present on the entire map. Look around open areas close to forests. The highest latitude I've seen one is just below the Northern Highway, close to Svergino (before it was Svergino, i.e. several updates ago). The lowest latitude is the feedshack just NE to Pik Kozlova. To the West, heli sites at Pavlovo. To the East, suburbs of Berezino (spawning cows). - boar, deer and cow are the most common; you can find goat, pig and chicken at Msta (111 100 at dayzdb map). Chicken is said to be found in Nadezdhino/Kozlovka, but I didn't find one there. Rabbits are said to spawn South of Zeleno, near the feedshack at pik Kozlova and on the road Krasno-Gvozdno, but I never found one. - if you want to be sure to find game, go to Msta and run around it. Also, you're absolutely bound to find cows on the western grassland of Mogilevka. Seriously, if there is no cattle there then someone/zeds beat you to it. - another way to make sure you hunt something is doing the heli hunt from the south of NWAF-Stary-Pogorevka-Zeleno-Pavlovo. Tens of boars and deer there. - chicken can be hunted with fists. Another option to kill game without weapons is to chase it up steep hill and then force it down to break its legs. I can't say I' ever managed to get an animal with just a melee weapon, they always ran away. - steak yield: cows – 8 (up from 4),boar – 6, deer/goat/ - 4, chicken/fish – 2 steaks. Once you’re ‘stuffed’, you can safely eat 2-3 steaks more. - you can drop your kitchen knives and machetes now as the stone knife is just as good and takes only 1 slot. - use the boar pelt + rope + stick to make IMHO the best backpack in the game. It gives 'only' 25 slots, but is very flat, inconspicuous in prone and allows to alt-look behind you on HC servers. Also, nobody will attack you for it, which can't be said about hunting backpacks. Deer pelt can be crafted (with just a knife) into a pretty useless bag. Other kinds of pelts don't work as in 0.52. - you can combine burlap sack, rope and stick for a backpack, but it's still worse than the boar one. - if you want to store as much meat as possible, combine gas stoves and pots/pans to have a portable stove of just two slots. While they are still bugged and immediately burn meat, they can store 5 steaks in just 2 slots. Carry two such stoves and you have 10 steaks in 4 slots, tens of hours of running without worrying about food. - for acquiring kindlings and ashwood, use your stone knife. Axes wear down in time. - anything you use for skinning/preparing wears down after every such action. A pristine knife after two quarterings can still be pristine, but gives slightly less meat than a freshly spawned pristine knife. You may want to replace them on a regular basis. - as for fishing, I think every body of water can yield fish. Don't give up if you fish out wellies (pristine). I don't know if 'checking your bait' affects the time of something swimming up, but after you see 'I sense some movement', you can literally click 'F' every second to make sure you get the pull-out message. There is a very nice pond east from Kabanino, with a small shack which often spawns shovels for your worms. A lovely quiet place, especially at the sunrise. Another area I love is Msta - always various game, a pump and ashwood nearby, and a small pond to fish, down east. Also: you can prepare fish with a hacksaw. - for survival-related gear, make sure to look into any kind of sheds, shack, etc. you see. They give me more good stuff I want than police stations. - you can use guts instead of ropes for bows and fishing rods (not for backpack). If you need to carry guts with you, take the 1-slot fish guts. They can also keep you warm. Don’t eat them, though, they give severe food poisoning. - as of now, a fireplace with just 5 kindlings will cook meat in less than two minutes (I'm sure it has been considerably shortened from previous patches). However, cooking time seems very random to me and can take more than 10 minutes. If it does, add stones which you can find on stone roads, in ponds and in the sea (no need to mine). Use stone to bring axes from ‘badly damaged’ to ‘damaged’, too. A fireplace of 5 kindlings goes out in 30 minutes and disappears completely, along with all the stuff you have put in. - apple trees yield apples on average on 4,5 attempts. You can skip berries, which have lower yield and less calories (if you want to try them – red are good, blue are bad). - if you want to hide your fireplace, put it directly under a spruce (or whatever that evergreen tree is), like next to the trunk, where you almost can't see it. The fire and smoke will be much less visible while you can stilly normally interact with the cooking area as usual. - my must-have outfit: full map, compass, knife, matches, one spare rope, rags, seeds, binoculars (or e.g. Longhorn). Add a gun and clothes and there rest is optional. A water bottle is useful for both drinking and traps, but I noticed that you don't need any water container when you know the location of wells and ponds in Cherna. I like weapons which I can hide in my backpack – magnum, longhorn, saw-off shotty. On HC servers I take on additional challenge – no premade food and sodas, only what I pick/farm/hunt/fish. I start with ca 10 apples to stave off hunger, then on to sheds for gear. With just a rope and matches, I can have a full-blown barbecue within an hour (craft a knife, find ash, craft a bow, find coop, craft arrows, kill animal, craft fireplace, use guts to craft a fishing rod, in no time you can feed an army). Happy hunting, everyone! :) EDIT: one error found

When they first introduced normal tourist tents back like 0.48, immediately I set off to feedshacks to find what I expected to be my first camp. Not only I wasted good 20 hours to no avail, but when a friend of mine found a tent by accident (of course), it quickly turned out that the thing can't last one server restart. I mean I was fine with useless duct tapes, wrenches and painkillers, but come on, when you introduce such a thing with such a rarity, you could give a heads-up that it's still pretty useless for a long time to come... OK, I think I got that out of my system. :) Still waiting for any form of base building, though. And if you could at lest take in hands a fully packed mountain backpack (but e.g. be unable to run), it would at least make some sense to pack your tent every Wednesday. As it is right now, I just can't be bothered.

Maybe they stay on private shards? As mine on public sure is gone after today's wipe. I think it's nice they introduce tents, I just wish they told us when the tents are going to be actually useful. As it is right now, they're more of a burden than a blessing...

mugur, can you tell me where you found the rabbit? After I killed all other animals, drove a car, found my first tent, etc., the rabbit is literally the last quest I have yet to do in Chernarus... :)

I've just found my first military tent and I'm wondering as I get mixed signals here - does 0.52 wipe the tents every Wednesday or not? Because if yes, tents actually let you carry less than more from week to week, so we still need to wait until they become actually useful.

I'm afraid that at the moment I can help you only on HC, where my "main" character is. I treat 3pp mostly as a throwaway avatar, for PvP and social fun. Rarely I get to have any good stuff on him. Let me know if you're ever hungry on HC (plus atm I have an M4 mag to spare), or l'll contact you if my 3pp guy gets any richer.

mugur, when do you think you're going to play next and at which castle you are? On HC, I have 10 steaks for you, ca 900% worth of meat - boar, deer and cow. I can probably fish some carp on the top of that if you fancy fish. Currently I'm in Kabanino doing some heli hunting, can meet you somewhere and make a campfire. I have a lot of work to do in the next week so we need to schedule first.

Sorry, I didn't mean it personal, it was a general "you" like "one does" ("you don't steal candies from children"). ;)

Thank you, that's what I'm talking about - people do that because they do that, without any self-entitled backstory. Some people defend KOSing like it's the First Amendment, that was my only beef about it. LOL. :)

True, I'd rather shag a zombie than try to talk any KOSer out of it. I guess what really gets on my nerves is calling on your personal liberties when you do it. Precisely the exact thing you deny your victims. That's all there is to it really; KOS to your heart's content, just leave the Bill of Rights out of this, thank you very much. ;)

I don't know how harsh ricp is on other players, but my two cents are: 1) Imagine one player sitting at the lake and fishing, while another guy snipes him out just for the hell of it (it's not for the carp after all). Could you consider once again who exactly prevents whom from enjoying the game the way they want to? 2) Since KOSing perpetuates more KOSing, as evidenced on this forum by people who came in friendly and turned homicidal after a few deaths, and as reported by most that KOSing comprises 80-90% encounters, are you positive that you're the one who preserves the variety of gamestyles?

Just how far can you make it in a fully juiced truck? Today I found my first one (in Zeleno) and fuelled it at the nearby gas station. Then I slowly made my way through Drezhino and Kozlovka, starting to get the grasp of the car (it's clumsy like hell) and taking screenshots. After a moment I felt like the king of the road. Then I saw a deer. Got out of the truck, killed the poor bastard and started to quarter it. Out of a sudden and out of nowhere, a Mosin round almost takes me down, the screen shakes and goes B&W. Since this is my HC character where survival is top priority, I ditched the car and zigzagged to the woods, running in panic for good 15 minutes, deciding against flanking the sniper (he would most likely kill me first). One moment a king, 5 minutes later almost dead, a lot of precious gear ruined, on the run and hiding in the bushes. If there's any other game like it, pray tell. :)

Tomorrow my family won't allow me, the next day I'm going to the UK for 9 days, I offered it as I noticed this is a March thread so I figured you'll be around with our quest. ;)

I'm not trying again in 0.52, it's either out of order or has ridiculous prerequisites like very specific locations or something. I'll try on the next patch. Also, let me know if you spot a sheep.

mugur, gas stoves don't work properly (they burn food instantly), so you need to make a fire. Tell me if you don't know how to (it's simple, but feasible in several ways). I did start to use gas stoves, but only as means to store meat (gas is not needed then). The entire contraption (stove+pot+gas, 8 slots separately) takes only 2 slots when combined and stores 5 steaks (and provides spare gas canister for the lamp if you play nights). As I have two stoves now, I can bring you enough food to keep you running bright-green 'energized' with your errands for many hours. I like your quest so can lend a hand. ;)

mugur, I don't really need anything on HC (well, maybe except the military tent, but it's super rare...), but I'd like to give you some food for your effort. :thumbsup: Meat is very efficient energy-wise and I can get you plenty of that. I'll be back home shortly in the first days of January.

There is a lot of game in the middle belt of the map, i.e. all the way down from that bigh highway in the North, but not too close to the Southern coast. Areas around and between smaller towns work best for me, but I've seen animals close to Zeleno or Berezino. The most surefire village is Msta, which never fails to deliver several kinds of game, including the elusive chicken and the rare pig. To the West of Mogilevka there is a big field, always seen a herd of cattle there (only remember that animals will be attacked by zeds). Herds of cows spawn also south of Zeleno and SW of Gvozdno. There is usually something south of Dubrovka (close to the intersection), between Gvozdno and Krasnostav, east of the Devils' Castle (where the heli site is), north/NE from the NWAF, and I'm sure many many other places. Just not Cherno, Elektro or Novo. Remember to look close to the forest but in the open (although sometimes a deer walks just among buildings). Only once I've seen an animal actually among the trees and that was close to Msta. Maybe rabbits hide in the woods? Of all game, I think boars are the best as they yield 6 steaks (eat them at one sitting and you can run 'energized' for hours) and a pelt which can be used for IMO the best backpack in the game (only 25 slots, but is very flat, easy to look around and doesn't give you away when you go prone). Right now I'm trying to live off of only food I kill, grow or pick and I can say it is still way too easy to stay 'energized' once you get over by the initial hunger. On the second thought, you're a cold-blooded murderer for hunting cute bunnies and how could you. :P