PineappleWolf

Who the fuck says its brand new?

Wait, why was my original post locked and not this copy of my post?

Submarines were never in the mod, Frost. Regardless the boats thread was a counter-argument to let people agreeing with your opinionated thread see how stupid it is, to everyone else. Though in reality, it'd be nice to have actual islands.

I concede to you, Sovet.

@ Svet While yes, admins having powers to deal with hackers and such is a good thing, they're also abusable in other terms. Realistically speaking, the fault of hackers lies with the developers for not implementing a decent anti-hack system. Doesn't this shit have battle eye or VAC?

I would like to note that Frost, admins or anyone hogging, rare shit, is not the point of this argument. And if that is your main point now, your argument is invalid. Cheese.

@Frost I point to the other person once more. And how the fuck is this about Admins? Screw admins, screw any power they had, realistically speaking they require none other then basic server control. You're comparing the faults of the mod to a game that isn't even at the same point yet.

Epoch was a comparison due to it being my most recent experience, at that a relatively tame Epoch experience as compared to these cheat easy servers. I wasn't also mentioning specific things in Epoch, just making a comparison to Helis in general from it, in contrast you referenced servers with a decent amount of admin abuse happening. Any servers with admins hogging shit is a shitty server and should be avoided. I point towards Sovetsky, regardless.

@Frost You're referencing modded/admin abused parts of the Mod, not the vanilla mod. Your point/argument is therefor invalid. Past of mod =\= future of SA Also, screw the cheap cheat abusers at that note.

What even is that thing he's on, and why is he rotating that?

It shall happen, prepare the ketchup and mustard dispensers.

Considering I'm a shitty pilot, I'd rather grab a motorcycle. Less obvious somewhat too, perhaps even some ATV type vehicle. Helis while not as OP as you think they are, are not everyone's cup of tea.

The boats thread once more is a joke thread to show the other side of the Heli debate, and how ridiculous the anti-heli people are being. I think its clear from the wiener boats IMO.

Hotdog boats with attachable hotdog flame thowers, to keep all your weenies and beans roasted during those cold, wet, potentially viking like, raiding parties.

Helis realistically speaking are somewhat balanced, especially if they're difficult to find. See my post again on page 5. I disagree with finding bases and dropping people, realistically speaking, Hide them in the fucking woods. Dropping people? Maybe after you get out, even with armed ones, seriously, its called a building. Destroying the game? Hardly. See Page 5. See boats thread. Finding a camp from the AIR is incredibly loud, more so than on foot when I can move near silently through the woods. Also, perhaps its called fucking up the Heli if some douchebag has it? Especially with civilian models which would be less resistant to weapons fire. Edit: I agree with Sovetsky, making some of the same points on my larger posts on page 5 and 6.