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Wow, this got heated. Just because "the WarZ did it" doesn't mean it's automatically bad. With the focus on relatively 'hardcore' realism and the rejection of "gamey" suggestions from many of the posters here I would have expected more support for this. The principle seems sound... if DayZ had a death timer from the start, people would probably be used to it and would be defending it. Would add to realism (kill player, don't see player again for a while). I get the idea and I support the principle behind it, but I wouldn't want to see it implemented myself... would piss too many people off and... well, honestly, the WarZ did it. :lol:

Well, I don't have anything against sawn-off shotguns per se, but they need to shake a lot more when aiming, they should have less muzzle velocity (something ArmA doesn't currently take into account), and they should have a lot (a lot) more recoil. Spread should remain the same as a normal shotgun. Shot already spreads far too much as it is, but I don't think that can be easily changed. The spread isn't really affected until you chop the barrel down to ridiculously short lengths, either. It remains roughly the same for gaming purposes down to about 12 inches of barrel or even less... I don't think they should take up a "secondary" slot, either, shotguns, sawn-off or not, aren't typically something someone uses as a backup gun. :huh: Edit: also, sawn-off shotguns are sawn off to make them smaller, in order to hide them from the cops. There are no cops in Chernarus... I can see someone sawing down the double-barrel to about 18 inches or so for portability, especially maneuvering it in vehicles, but I don't see someone doing a Mad Max style shotgun pistol when there's no need to hide it from the police. A stock is important! The semi-auto and pump shotguns in the game are already quite short enough, with 18-inch barrels, never mind the feasibility of cutting them down. Sawing a pump shotgun down would also reduce the magazine capacity, depending on how many rounds it held to start with. Still, I'm not opposed to being able to saw off shotguns provided unsuitable shotguns can't be sawn-off, and it isn't handled in a "Hollywood" fashion with exaggerated spread and one-handed use.

Another thing I forgot to mention (which is not a criticism of the OP): Let's say we introduce expanding hunting ammo for certain rifles, or hollow-points for handguns... how do we decide how much more damage is appropriate? If all the ammunition is plain ball ammo, it's a lot easier to choose damages that are in line with one another since most of the ammunition will react similarly. If we introduce expanding ammunition it's all up in the air - how much more "damage" does a JHP or soft-nose do? 1.5x? 2x? Is there a chance it doesn't expand? Does high-velocity rifle ammunition do a lot more and handgun ammunition only a bit more? A topic for debate...

It is pretty silly IMO, I haven't heard of LA gangs doing that and if so I would suspect it is extremely uncommon. The only specific (non-AP) ammunition I know of that gained a large reputation as a "cop killer" in the media was Winchester's Black Talon with a special coating and "fangs" on the ends of the hollow-point lips. The British soldiers didn't modify their .303 rounds, it was official issued ammunition. There were also "Manstopper" hollow point rounds produced commercially for revolvers in the late 1800s. As for the "Box of Truth", I've seen that before and it is mildly interesting, but the modified ammunition proved fairly ineffective with some failing to do anything different at all, and their test was optimistic (in human targets even purpose-designed hollow points frequently fail to expand since humans wear clothing and contain bones and muscle fibre). Would anyone actually pull rifle bullets and reload them backwards? Not I, because they would have a large chance of failing to feed in semi-automatic firearms, and the ballistics of a reversed bullet would be godawful and would severely reduce accuracy and effective range. With ALL hunting ammunition these days being of the expanding type, and with hollow points being commonly available for handguns, I don't see anyone going to these lengths, even if they were just stuck with ball ammo. As has been said many times before, .45 won its reputation as a "manstopper" in FMJ form, and the man-killing power of a FMJ bullet out of a rifle is certainly adequate. With rounds like the 5.56 it's not even necessary to try to modify them as they already are designed to fragment. Sawing into bullets is almost unheard of and for good reason...

I'm gonna go with "no", people don't tend to do this in real life... primer in a bullet? X-shaped dum dums? Naw, too silly. On a side note, the French came up with some interesting loads for street-fighting in WWII. For example, one simply had the tip of the spitzer cut off to make a large flat-point (meplat) instead. Another had the tip thinned out like, if I remember right, a screwdriver blade so that the rear of the bullet would tumble violently. I don't think anyone with two brain cells to rub together would waste valuable time modifying bullets in real life. It's actually pretty hard to cut into jacketed rounds.

On a more serious note I've known people in their mid-twenties who had never heard of Steve McQueen or other famous actors... it's actually a bit scary.

I had to look that up... why would kids know about a movie from 1942? I don't think kids know about Best Picture winner "How Green Was My Valley", or nominees like "Sergeant York" with Gary Cooper and "Penny Serenade" starring Cary Grant either... doesn't seem surprising to me. /sarcasm

I don't understand the need for it to be released soon, either... people these days have little patience. Ever seen the Evan William's ads?

Anything's possible. I say to you today, my friends, that in spite of the difficulties and frustrations of the moment, I still have a dream. I have a dream that one day this player base will rise up and live out the true meaning of the creed: "We won't call people moronic terms like 'bambis'". :lol:

Because you dislike the overuse of the highly-irritating term "Bambi"?

I've always kind of wanted scalps...

So in essence: Skilled bandit: doesn't kill people Unskilled bandit: kills people ?

I hate the term so very much... Look at this shit... Jesus Christ...

Uh, no. What about "random but very rare" earthquakes? Or droughts? Or flooding? Or forest fires? How about tornadoes? After all, they are known to occur in the Ukraine and other nearby countries...

I'm sure taking a hacksaw to a Benelli's gas system is going to end up well...

Nobody can do anything about it unless he posts his GUID.

"Help please" This is less detailed than a message I'd expect to find floating in a bottle...

If they add guitars, they need to add a banjo as well...

What counts as unarmed? I've had people throw cans my way before. That shit can be deadly...

I want some body snatchers myself...

i always at leastattempt to make sure my post are somewhat coherent and not walls of txt. i hate it wen ppl dont bother it just shows they arent willing to put in the efort to make their posts legible so y should i take the effort to read their posts

You might be able to survive it at 1500m. :lol:

Not a new hack. Old hack. ;)