Side chat

[TheBaby 61]

Gonna enable side chat on my server. Can't play anything resembling an MMO without that shit. Is this naughty, will I get spanked?

After seeing the extent of some admin abuse that gets reported and just keeps happening, I'm left wondering why I'm not running my server exactly how I like. After looking at the log files and seeing that vehicles, and the chopper, seem to be respawning underwater I'm pretty pissed about the amount of time I've wasted trying to find that shit.

Love the game, seems like an awesome dev and forum team too. But I've been naive running my server along the guidelines you set out.

[reuben5150 83]

Rules for public hive suck hard, get a private hive and do what you like :)

[Paddy0610 278]

Gonna enable side chat on my server. Can't play anything resembling an MMO without that shit. Is this naughty, will I get spanked?

After seeing the extent of some admin abuse that gets reported and just keeps happening, I'm left wondering why I'm not running my server exactly how I like. After looking at the log files and seeing that vehicles, and the chopper, seem to be respawning underwater I'm pretty pissed about the amount of time I've wasted trying to find that shit.

Love the game, seems like an awesome dev and forum team too. But I've been naive running my server along the guidelines you set out.

Side channel will be a reason for BLacklisting your Server, but if you got a private hive no Problem. I spoke to the Community SUpport couse i wantet to do it too.

here a link to a Topic where it was said:

http://dayzmod.com/forum/index.php?/topic/94102-possible-to-enable-side-channel/

Edited September 30, 2012 by Paddy0610

[TheBaby 61]

No side chat then.

The thing is, we have an interesting problem. After a few weeks of being continuously hacked we pretty much lost our player base. We now have 2 regulars who aren't in our squad, neither of them survive too long without getting eaten by Zeds. Besides the fact that our vehicles aren't spawning as they did in 1.7.2.5, I think when a player joins our server and knows there are 2-6 players in there with 'clan tags' on they pretty much leave right away. That, or they're server hopping for loot.

I've been banned from the other server we play on, which has a continuously higher population, for killing the admin and one of his buddies who teleported behind me with a silenced G3 immediately after. Point blank AS50 round to his chest. It was glorious.

You see, those guys are breaking the admin rules to benefit themselves at the expense of people who use their server, and the wider public playerbase. I wanted to break admin rules to foster some kind of community. So whoever sees us in the players list can at least know that we claim to want to help them survive. Going private isn't an option for us unless we can keep our gear. We would just bail til the standalone came out.

[reuben5150 83]

No side chat then.

The thing is, we have an interesting problem. After a few weeks of being continuously hacked we pretty much lost our player base. We now have 2 regulars who aren't in our squad

Yes, that is the true cost of hacking, loss of players, and who can blame them for leaving.

[TheBaby 61]

Scratch that.

Side chat is going on 100%, black list us, couldn't care less anymore. Time to piss around with the mission files.

Just got in today, spawn in the debug area with my gillie suit and no gear whatsoever, no backpack, no nothing. New character. Checked our bases. Everything has gone. Check the log files, our main vehicles we use to stash shit appears to have jumped about the map very very quickly with a bunch of other cars.

Utter. Fucking. Bullshit.

2 months of hard work fighting hackers, stashing gear, duplicating nothing, getting shouted at in the lobby by players who think we hack, paying to get ass-raped on my own fucking server.

I was so SO naive not to ban/kick anyone I please at any moment, just like the rest of the goofs out there. Should've locked the server half the time, shut it down when we're not on.

See you in the standalone if this shit isn't cut out on release day. This been one of the most entertaining games I've played, up there with titles that have had serious money behind them. Undoubtedly the best mod for anything I'll likely ever play.

We're out.

[Torndeco (DayZ) 46]

Honestly the rant u turn on sidechat is stupid really...

It will get u blacklisted your server, and when that happens your server wont start up without a hive.

So whats the point ?

Sounds like u got access to a dedicated server, since u can edit the mission files...

So just go the private hive route, u will have access to the db & files and ability to change alot more...

i.e do periodic database backups & do rollbacks after a bad hacker attack etc..

U can also play around with mission files / side chat=on / default player skins / starting gear / different vehicles / different maps etc...

There are also people toying with random chance of parachute spawning for new players, and messing with heli spawn loot tables etc...

So just start reading up @ tunngle forums about the different private hives.... and research which one u want.

Edited September 30, 2012 by Torndeco

[qauntum 7]

Look at the server hosting rules, enabling side chat is no longer against them. I like how they announced the changes rather than keeping them quiet.

Edited September 30, 2012 by QuantumAI

[TheBaby 61]

Honestly the rant u turn on sidechat is stupid really...

It will get u blacklisted your server, and when that happens your server wont start up without a hive.

So whats the point ?

No, we probably won't get blacklisted. I know how private servers work, but thanks for that. The point is the amount of time and effort we've put into running a decent, legitimate server on the public hive. This "take it in the ass and go private" is bullshit. I'm not buying another server, why should I? I honestly didn't expect we'd have to go through this shit being admin. If you'd seen the amount of shit we'd amassed, you'd understand my rage. We could've kitted a small army out.

But yup, I agree, I am stupid. Stupid for thinking any of this was possible on the public hive.

[Torndeco (DayZ) 46]

Didnt know about server hosting rules changes in regards to side chat.... if its true its v.nice to hear.

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I never said buy another server....

U mentioned edit the mission files so i assumed u got full access i.e a dedicated server or vps one. So u could just use the same machine till its all setup.

I went from 2 offical servers (had anywhere from 4-8 hackers a day) down to 1 private server (i am lucky to see 1 hacker in the logs a day now).

As for hackers they are everywhere, and it only takes 1 hacker to mess up a server.

Imagine a hacker that goes & deploys 50 barbed wire + 50 sandbags + 50 tank traps in 1 town. And then saves all the vehicles randomly elsewhere. And goes & emptys all the tents + saves them

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Offical servers have rules + restrictions for admins...

Private servers have zero rules + restrictions for admins...

Whichever u choose u will need to learn to update (+custom them aswell i.e kick aggressive for publicvariables) battleye filters, ban hackers.

Curse the hackers that have a bypass + blatently kill players while admin is online....

None of this will change atleast not until the standalone is released

Edited September 30, 2012 by Torndeco

[TheBaby 61]

Didnt know about server hosting rules changes in regards to side chat.... if its true its v.nice to hear.

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I never said buy another server....

U mentioned edit the mission files so i assumed u got full access i.e a dedicated server or vps one. So u could just use the same machine till its all setup.

I went from 2 offical servers (had anywhere from 4-8 hackers a day) down to 1 private server (i am lucky to see 1 hacker in the logs a day now).

As for hackers they are everywhere, and it only takes 1 hacker to mess up a server.

Imagine a hacker that goes & deploys 50 barbed wire + 50 sandbags + 50 tank traps in 1 town. And then saves all the vehicles randomly elsewhere. And goes & emptys all the tents + saves them

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Offical servers have rules + restrictions for admins...

Private servers have zero rules + restrictions for admins...

Whichever u choose u will need to learn to update (+custom them aswell i.e kick aggressive for publicvariables) battleye filters, ban hackers.

Curse the hackers that have a bypass + blatently kill players while admin is online....

None of this will change atleast not until the standalone is released

Thank you for your reply, I will definitely consider this. Apologies for any undeserved hostility towards you from myself, this is seriously stressing me out.